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    I want specifics

    1) How good will pictures look? Not camera pics, but downloaded, and which software will be a good bet to load them on the 650

    2) Movies, what is the Kinoma scoop? Where to find them, how to make a movie, legally, ilegally, etc.

    3) How to use the 650's camera and show its pictures the best

    4) What are the most wow games or demos

    5) What software packages become musts due to the elegance of the resolution?

    6) What about software that allows pictures to be shown but also where the screen parses over the image?

    7) where can one get hi res pictures? How about female model pictures? treomodel.com? treoplayboy.com?

    8) what are some hi res issues that will come up?

    Here is why I'm excited: the jump from 160x160 to 320x320 is revolutionary. It will be the jump from "I get it" to "I see it!"

    The jump from 320x320 to 480 by something will be even hard to tell, even with good eyes! So the 650 will be the "picture" treo
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    good call. How am I going to prove to people and especially the fiance that this phone is worth the $500? My thinking is keeping a copy of a movie on a 2GB SD card.
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    I don't think you'll need a 2GB SD card for a copy of movie. It should probably take 400MBs by my meager calculations if you use relatively standard compression. Actually it's probably smaller than that, I have to admit that I hadn't done a lot of movies at 160x160.

    For what it's worth, you might not need Kinoma anymore (unless you have specific Kinoma files) because I think the Treo ships with a media player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    I don't think you'll need a 2GB SD card for a copy of movie. It should probably take 400MBs by my meager calculations if you use relatively standard compression. Actually it's probably smaller than that, I have to admit that I hadn't done a lot of movies at 160x160.
    Yes, but with a 2GB card I can put several movies on there and some episodes of some television shows as well as a large amount of MP3s. Can pretty much make it an iPod killer.
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    I want specifics

    1) How good will pictures look? Not camera pics, but downloaded, and which software will be a good bet to load them on the 650

    You can just copy jpg pictures to ur picture card. The built in camera app is also a pretty good photo viewer. Also u can use one of the jpg picture as the phone app wallpaper.

    2) Movies, what is the Kinoma scoop? Where to find them, how to make a movie, legally, ilegally, etc.

    Get mmPlayer for PalmOS ($14.95, www.mmplayer.com) and VirtualDub for Windows (Free). DivX/xVid technology is so much better than Kinoma's Cinepak technology.

    3) How to use the 650's camera and show its pictures the best

    Same as the Treo 600, except slightly enchanced with features such as zoom and video shooting. It's almost exactly the same as the Zire 72 camera app.

    4) What are the most wow games or demos

    Warfare Incorporated, Snails, Zap!2016.

    5) What software packages become musts due to the elegance of the resolution?

    Documents to Go 7 (Word, Excel, Powerpoint) which will benefit GREATLY with the hi-res screen. My old Tungsten T with its 320x320 screen was a joy to wordprocess on (with the Palm Wireless Keyboard)

    7) where can one get hi res pictures? How about female model pictures? treomodel.com? treoplayboy.com?

    Just get ur jpg files, crop/stretch it down to 320x320 and copy it to ur SD card.

    8) what are some hi res issues that will come up?

    None, just that some programs are designed for lo-res so it doesn't take advantage of the hi-res screen.
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    Now this is what I'm talking about!!!

    Pocket DVD Studio does a great job on ripping movies... although it is a little pricey...

    As for viewing images, Splash Photo or Acid Image are both great for viewing Hi-Res pics at 320x320 or their TRUE resolution will image panning!!

    Games, Snails by PDA Mill is a great 'Worms' style game with pretty sweet Hi-Res graphics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Nguyen
    Documents to Go 7 (Word, Excel, Powerpoint) which will benefit GREATLY with the hi-res screen. My old Tungsten T with its 320x320 screen was a joy to wordprocess on (with the Palm Wireless Keyboard)
    That is one of the major things that is pushing me to upgrade. The resolution makes it a serious productivity tool. It is actually worth creating and using spreadsheets and word documents when you can fit so much on the screen.

    The other major driving force for me is VNC. I want to log into my home machine and control it. With the 600, you could only show a small portion of your screen because of the resolution. This should improve that dramatically.
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    with divx, 320x176 (for those 16:9 movies) @ 224kbps DivX video, 15fps, 64kbps (Lame MP3) audio, I can make videos for my girlfriend's Zire 72 at approximately 128MB per hour, or 8 hours on a 1GB card. The quality's really great, u really don't need higher than 15fps, it looks very smooth on the small screen. As for ipod killer, if u use 64kbps OGG format with Pocket Tunes (which sounds great) or AeroPlayer, you can store around 80 albums on your Treo with 200MB to spare for other stuff, and Pocket Tunes really excels for managing that many audio files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgauss
    Here is why I'm excited: the jump from 160x160 to 320x320 is revolutionary. It will be the jump from "I get it" to "I see it!"
    Revolutionary for the Treo, but Palms have been doing 320x320 for a long time now... you owe yourself a trip to a store with an SD card filled with pics. 320x320 is beautiful. 320x320 with the higher pixel per inch of the Treo 650 is exceptional.
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    i'm still surprised they managed to make a 320x320 screen that small, but good for them!
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    I had the treo 90 with a low res screen. I got the tungsten C for the 320x320 screen. I turned my nose up at the treo 600 because of the low res screen. Im jumping on the 650. It does make a huge diff. not just for the pics, all the aps look much better. I use datebk5 and the hi res icons are great. I also travel and have a photo album of the family that plays as a slide show. The pics look great! I use mapopolis which was nearly impossible with the low res screen. As far as games I got a handmark game pack with defender, spy hunter, and sinister and they all play great with the hi res. Everything looks better in hi res, it's not just for the movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mg48
    I had the treo 90 with a low res screen. I got the tungsten C for the 320x320 screen. I turned my nose up at the treo 600 because of the low res screen. Im jumping on the 650. It does make a huge diff. not just for the pics, all the aps look much better. I use datebk5 and the hi res icons are great. I also travel and have a photo album of the family that plays as a slide show. The pics look great! I use mapopolis which was nearly impossible with the low res screen. As far as games I got a handmark game pack with defender, spy hunter, and sinister and they all play great with the hi res. Everything looks better in hi res, it's not just for the movies.

    That is exactly right. You know what is even better in combination with a high res screen?
    A over 2 times bigger screen. (PPC6601/6600)
    The treo stands no chance against the ppc in movie watching and game playing. Hahaha
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    i searched.. don't shoot me....

    can anyone point a non-techie to step-by-step on HOW you "rip" and "play" movies on a palm device, in particular a Treo 600? What hardware do you need? Simply a DVD-drive?

    Thanks.
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    sure... as soon as I post it I find this:

    http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/448-1.htm

    you know what? I should be shot. Thanks anyway.
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    Hi, I'm looking for a Nemo, I mean a Treo 650, orrrr was that a 750? I can't really remember. Everyone in my family wants one. At least I, I think they do. I wonder where my family is anyway? And has anyone seen an Elmo, no I mean a Treo 666? Sharky, Sharky. . . why does that ring a bell? Something about an AA meeting, my nose bleeding, and a wrecked submarine.

    But I'm with you, Sharky. Great thread but for us non trekies, I mean non techies, where can you get some info on how to use, store, and file some of these apps? And another question I have is that it seems like there are many apps that do fairly similar things. In all seriousness it would be great to see a thread on evaluations or reviews of similar apps and which ones are best over the others. And with the new Treo 650 which apps may now be redundant or obsolete (eg VoiceLauncher or Power Run, etc.) Thanks for any help in pointing us in the right direction.
    Just keep swimming, swimming, doot do do doot
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobva6
    Yes, but with a 2GB card I can put several movies on there and some episodes of some television shows as well as a large amount of MP3s. Can pretty much make it an iPod killer.
    iPod killer? When it can play music for 10+ hours and the 40GB SD card hits the market maybe... Of course for everybody else that doesn't want a smartphone with their music player, there will be iPod.
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    my Treo 600 can play music for 16 hours thanks. The only thing it doesn't have that the iPod does is the star rating feature. I'd love to be able to make auto playlists on my Treo.
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    2GB SD cards have not been tested with the 650 yet, theoretically they shouldn't work but who knows, depends on what kind of filesystem it supports on the card... if fat16/32 is available, 2gb here you go... if not then 1gb may be the limit.
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    Something that most folks fail to mention about the new screen is that in addition to the higher res, the color depth has gone way up. From under 4K colors to 65K. That will also enhance the quality of photos & movies you watch on the 650.
    - Fushigi
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    The move up to 320x320 was huge for me when I went from a 515 to a T3 a while back. So much so that I have carried around two devices for a year becase of the low res on the T600. Now I can finally go to one device.

    I love the 320x320 in:

    - Agendus and all PIM type apps. The look so much better and the extra space is very helpful
    - Docs to Go is much better
    - games. Too many to list them all but Snails, Warfare, Monopoly, Acid Solitare, and whatever that Risk type game is (I forget right now) are better.
    Palms and more Palms till the 700p ruined it for me. Blackberry and now the Pre. Sprint customer since 1994! They had 1 tower in town.
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