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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Nguyen
    with divx, 320x176 (for those 16:9 movies) @ 224kbps DivX video, 15fps, 64kbps (Lame MP3) audio, I can make videos for my girlfriend's Zire 72 at approximately 128MB per hour, or 8 hours on a 1GB card. The quality's really great, u really don't need higher than 15fps, it looks very smooth on the small screen. As for ipod killer, if u use 64kbps OGG format with Pocket Tunes (which sounds great) or AeroPlayer, you can store around 80 albums on your Treo with 200MB to spare for other stuff, and Pocket Tunes really excels for managing that many audio files.
    Hello, just for my own learning, do people actually intend to watch long length videos, movies, etc on this? I love the fact that it will take and play videos just not sure how much use it will get after the novelty of it wears off. Having said that, my other hobby is filming high quality digital video (using a Canon XL1S). Is there an application to convert this digital image into something playable on the 650?

    Thanks,
    Eric
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    I think it would be great to watch a movie while on a flight or at certain other times. Is this realistic? Can the battery hold out through a movie? I know I could carry an extra.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by scsanden
    I think it would be great to watch a movie while on a flight or at certain other times. Is this realistic? Can the battery hold out through a movie? I know I could carry an extra.
    My guess is that watching an extended movie on battery only would be a showstopper and eat the battery alive. Probably more suited while plugged into charger. Not to mention that most airlines will not even let you do that because of their confusion and misunderstanding of wireless devices. In another thread there was quite a bit of discussion on how airlines (specifically SWA) have a blanket order of, if it is a phone at all, it MUST be off. I know that from personal experience in a lot of flying too.

    Eric
  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisutley
    iPod killer? When it can play music for 10+ hours and the 40GB SD card hits the market maybe... Of course for everybody else that doesn't want a smartphone with their music player, there will be iPod.
    Because you typically sit and listen to 10 hours of music at a time, right?
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  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by sharky
    i searched.. don't shoot me....

    can anyone point a non-techie to step-by-step on HOW you "rip" and "play" movies on a palm device, in particular a Treo 600? What hardware do you need? Simply a DVD-drive?

    Thanks.
    Try mmplayer.com site. They have tips on how to rip movies. It takes a decent efforts to learn and get the settings right. But once you learn the process, it's fairly simple. You do not need DVD Burner.
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by scsanden
    I think it would be great to watch a movie while on a flight or at certain other times. Is this realistic? Can the battery hold out through a movie? I know I could carry an extra.
    I used to watch movies on my Tungsten T3. But everytime I'm half way into it, I used to run out of battery. So without the battery sled, it wasn't possible. I think Treo650 has longer battery life and battery can be swapped. So it should be alot better, not to mention the smaller screen of 650 should help with the battery life.
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by nguyen23464
    That is exactly right. You know what is even better in combination with a high res screen?
    A over 2 times bigger screen. (PPC6601/6600)
    The treo stands no chance against the ppc in movie watching and game playing. Hahaha
    Yeah, but no one wants to carry that brick (hahaha). Also the sharpness will suffer because it's stretched only quasi-high resolution (320x240 from what I'm reading) compared to the Treo.
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisutley
    iPod killer? When it can play music for 10+ hours and the 40GB SD card hits the market maybe... Of course for everybody else that doesn't want a smartphone with their music player, there will be iPod.
    Last I saw, there was a very successful iPod that has only 4GBs in it. It didn't do 1/10th of the things that the Treo can do. And you have to give a nod to the Treo's battery life as it can easily play 15+ hours and battery is replacable for a spare (at least in the 650).
  9. #29  
    If I want anything more powerful than the 650, I'll bring the laptop!
    Remember the Treo is a BUSINESS PHONE! I have to make calls so I CAN MAKE MONEY! So I can PAY BILLS! I don't have time for much media watching for more than a 1/2 hr. Maybe a music video or two but that's pretty much it!
    The Treo is cool enough for me.
    Games and movie watching on that new screen are cool and I look forward to it but most of my time is spent on checking emails and making calls! I'm a grown-*** man!
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    #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by scsanden
    I think it would be great to watch a movie while on a flight or at certain other times. Is this realistic? Can the battery hold out through a movie? I know I could carry an extra.
    I can currently watch a 2-hr movie on my Treo 600 and it only uses about 20% of the battery. I did this for the novelty of being able to... the lo-res screen made it a one-time event.

    I imagine the higher res screen will cause some type of hit on the battery, but the new battery should also be better.

    We'll see how it goes
  11. #31  
    According to P1, the new screen is actually more energy efficient than the 600's low res display. They have actually said battery life will increase with the 650. I can't remember if they gave approximate battery differences, but they did mention that it was improved.
    Mike
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    Two words: Internet porn.
  13. #33  
    yesterday at the end of the 11 - 1pm session, one of the PalmOne guys was giving a short video demo on his 650... I asked about the battery life while watching movies and his answer was the battery would last approx. 3 hours of video. I didn't ask him anything re: settings, programs, etc.
  14. #34  
    Yeah, you can make it a batter killer too!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobva6
    Yes, but with a 2GB card I can put several movies on there and some episodes of some television shows as well as a large amount of MP3s. Can pretty much make it an iPod killer.
  15. #35  
    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyG
    Two words: Internet porn.
    One word: Cool.
  16. #36  
    Battery life on my Treo 600 (1700mAh, 144mhz OMAP, 160x160)
    Music (OGG format): 16 hours
    Video: Approximately 10% after one hour

    Battery life on fiancee's Zire 72 (~900mAh, 312mhz Intel, 320x320)
    Music (OGG format): 4.5 hours
    Video: Approximately 35% after one hour

    (My) estimated battery life on Treo 650 (same 1700mAh?, 312mhz Intel, [smaller] 320x320)
    Music (OGG format): 9 hours
    Video: Approximately 17% after one hour.

    Treo life is with wireless mode on.

    Donald
  17. #37  
    Why would you expect the battery life to go down on the Treo 650? I realize it's faster, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it takes more battery or that it's using all that speed. Processors for a while have modes in which they can conserve power if they aren't being fully taxed.

    Ahhh, I'm starting to get the math using the Zire's speed and screen as a reference. I think the battery for the Treo 650 is 1800mAh, so you might be able to bumb your estimate to 9.5 hours.
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    #38  
    Hello

    For those of you considering video on your device - don't forget this little piece of software - Pocket DivX Encoder (http://divx.ppccool.com/)

    This one is capable of converting your DivX/ XviD/ Mpeg movies to "any" portable device (if you download the beta version you also get support for dv, mkv, dat, swf and other formats).
    The treo is not directly supported, but you can just manually set the screen resolution to fit the 160x160/ 320x320 screen. I've used it a lot on my TT (which has 320x320) and my T3. It has an easy to learn "touch and go" interface...

    AND - It's freeware to, but based on the use of i.e. MMplayer on Palm devices.
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  19. #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by jorang
    Hello

    For those of you considering video on your device - don't forget this little piece of software - Pocket DivX Encoder (http://divx.ppccool.com/)

    This one is capable of converting your DivX/ XviD/ Mpeg movies to "any" portable device (if you download the beta version you also get support for dv, mkv, dat, swf and other formats).
    The treo is not directly supported, but you can just manually set the screen resolution to fit the 160x160/ 320x320 screen. I've used it a lot on my TT (which has 320x320) and my T3. It has an easy to learn "touch and go" interface...

    AND - It's freeware to, but based on the use of i.e. MMplayer on Palm devices.
    Hey I downloaded this application. Actually there are 3 plus a developer app. Do all three of them need to be installed?
    Thanks,
    Eric
  20. #40  
    I have a 7135 and was going to upgrade to a Treo 600 about a year ago until I found out the screen was low res. I was shocked to see a palm device running OS 5.x with a low res screen. It took a bit of research to confirm this as I was not aware of this forum and the noobs at the store barely knew their own names.

    So, the Hi-Res is what I have been waiting for.

    Why?

    I prefer to store family pics in the phone vs. wallet.
    (Pics look great on my Wife's Z71)

    Will be using with a BT GPS and the Hi-Res will make the maps look great. (Already ordered it)

    I like to play games to pass the time when stuck somewhere.



    I also look forward to improved performance. My 7135 is very slow.
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