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    Went to a Sprint store today to inquire about the 650 and vision. I asked several reps about how Sprint will handle the policy of unlimited vision with a bluetooth phone. The senior rep said well, changes are on the way, and there is a high probability that you will lose unlimited vision if you get a bluetooth device (namely the 650). I asked him why, and he mentioned data will be metered per month, with a cap. I asked him again, and he never gave a direct reason why.

    I then told the rep that I didn't appreciate how Sprint is so distrustful of it's customers, and assumes just because the device has Bluetooth, everyone will instantly tether their Bluetooth device to their computer and surf the web 24/7. I told the rep that just because Bluetooth is new to Sprint, shouldn't mean they immediately change the plan structure.

    I told the rep that a 3MB (or whatever) cap per month would be ridiculous, as the Treo device will suck bandwidth even if you don't tether to a PC. Email, MobiTV, Pocket Tunes streaming, etc will use tons of bandwidth/month. I explained to the rep that I am spending $600 on a device because I want to take advantage of the above technologies...and will not appreciate it if Sprint charges me more to use it...hell, my plan is already $100/month.

    Anyhow, just ranting, as this really tics me off. Sprint acts like they are gonna go out of business because they are finally adopting this old technology known as Bluetooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericshmerick
    Went to a Sprint store today to inquire about the 650 and vision. I asked several reps about how Sprint will handle the policy of unlimited vision with a bluetooth phone. The senior rep said well, changes are on the way, and there is a high probability that you will lose unlimited vision if you get a bluetooth device (namely the 650). I asked him why, and he mentioned data will be metered per month, with a cap. I asked him again, and he never gave a direct reason why.

    I then told the rep that I didn't appreciate how Sprint is so distrustful of it's customers, and assumes just because the device has Bluetooth, everyone will instantly tether their Bluetooth device to their computer and surf the web 24/7. I told the rep that just because Bluetooth is new to Sprint, shouldn't mean they immediately change the plan structure.

    I told the rep that a 3MB (or whatever) cap per month would be ridiculous, as the Treo device will suck bandwidth even if you don't tether to a PC. Email, MobiTV, Pocket Tunes streaming, etc will use tons of bandwidth/month. I explained to the rep that I am spending $600 on a device because I want to take advantage of the above technologies...and will not appreciate it if Sprint charges me more to use it...hell, my plan is already $100/month.

    Anyhow, just ranting, as this really tics me off. Sprint acts like they are gonna go out of business because they are finally adopting this old technology known as Bluetooth.
    One of the things I have learned over the 6 years that I have been with Sprint is not to fish for answers you dont want to hear.

    Sprint always has loopholes and grandfathered policy's to work around things like this.

    Look at the palm to ppc migration. They almost never charge that extra $15 everyone worries so much about.

    -rob
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    It's just as easy to use your hotsync cable and PDAnet. So nothing has shanged IMHO, other then their perception. If this is even true, I think the early users will be ok, since there was not info out at the time of purchase, just like the only 100SMS permonth clause that people were grandfathered with if they had it already.
    Time will tell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericshmerick
    Went to a Sprint store today to inquire about the 650 and vision. I asked several reps about how Sprint will handle the policy of unlimited vision with a bluetooth phone. The senior rep said well, changes are on the way, and there is a high probability that you will lose unlimited vision if you get a bluetooth device (namely the 650). I asked him why, and he mentioned data will be metered per month, with a cap. I asked him again, and he never gave a direct reason why.

    I then told the rep that I didn't appreciate how Sprint is so distrustful of it's customers, and assumes just because the device has Bluetooth, everyone will instantly tether their Bluetooth device to their computer and surf the web 24/7. I told the rep that just because Bluetooth is new to Sprint, shouldn't mean they immediately change the plan structure.

    I told the rep that a 3MB (or whatever) cap per month would be ridiculous, as the Treo device will suck bandwidth even if you don't tether to a PC. Email, MobiTV, Pocket Tunes streaming, etc will use tons of bandwidth/month. I explained to the rep that I am spending $600 on a device because I want to take advantage of the above technologies...and will not appreciate it if Sprint charges me more to use it...hell, my plan is already $100/month.

    Anyhow, just ranting, as this really tics me off. Sprint acts like they are gonna go out of business because they are finally adopting this old technology known as Bluetooth.

    don't believe it.

    Unlimited vision is unlimited vision. Unless you abuse it, you are fine.

    BT or not, it does not matter.

    They tried this wth the T608, and it failed miserably.

    Unlimited vision will stil be there.
    Now, if you tether 24/7, you may get hit.

    But I run my Treo battery out every day using vision (ex. 4 hours a day, every day, and I have been fine for over a year).

    This will not change.
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    I agree with Buckhardi! The BlueTooth tethering only makes the ability to use the Treo as a phone more sexy...not any more functional than with the cable and PDANET. In fact...i am sending this via pdanet right now as I sit in Detroit during a layover! I have the unlimited vision package, and have never had a problem with it. It sure beats having to pay $7 just to use the airport's wireless for an hour!
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    Sprint users that already have unlimited Vision, will still have unlimited Vision -- they can't change your plan just because you buy a new phone. You are grandfathered into your plan.

    Unless there is some disclaimer in fine print somewhere that no one saw, they can't pull this off.
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    I just don't get this whole 'bluetooth means ppl are going to constantly use it as a modem' mentality. I mean, how hard is it to plug in a cord? Even with BT, you still have to push a few buttons. Also, with a cord I'm charging the phone while using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreoDeJaneiro
    Sprint users that already have unlimited Vision, will still have unlimited Vision -- they can't change your plan just because you buy a new phone. You are grandfathered into your plan.

    Unless there is some disclaimer in fine print somewhere that no one saw, they can't pull this off.
    Tell that to the Sony Ericsson users...their grandfathered plans were changed into limited plans.

    Scary but true, Sprint has every right to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericshmerick
    Tell that to the Sony Ericsson users...their grandfathered plans were changed into limited plans.

    Scary but true, Sprint has every right to do this.
    wrong, I was never switched. Never heard a thing about it.

    -rob
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    My friend has unlimited vision with his BT Ericsson phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slffl
    I just don't get this whole 'bluetooth means ppl are going to constantly use it as a modem' mentality. I mean, how hard is it to plug in a cord? Even with BT, you still have to push a few buttons. Also, with a cord I'm charging the phone while using it.
    Exactly. I agree totally, but Sprint seems to be scared to death users will utilize BT for a modem. This is unfortunately the case, and I fear limits will be imposed because of this threat.
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    There are always exceptions to the rule, but the great majority of users, at least at www.sprintusers.com/forum seem to have 3mb plans. I sure hope this isn't the case w/the treo.
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    Those users were proably new activations. It was pretty much common knowledge that transferrring existing service to the t608 would keep you unlimited.

    Having sprint change policy would be the ONLY thing that would get me to switch. Probably would go to tmobile, definately gsm???

    -rob
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    Deja vu. My other phone line is with a T608, and remember hearing that when it was released that they would take away my unlimited vision. Still have unlimited vision. No problems, but I never abuse the data.
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    I have a sneaking feeling that Sprint will enable the DUN BT profile just as soon as they setup their higher pricing plans for tethering phones as modems to data access on laptops and pdas. I would guess there will be a more expensive unlimited data plan over $15 to use the BT connectivity as such...
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    I just hope that vision will still be unlimited, unless you use BT, thats not fair to change our plan like that because only some people use their bt for connecting their computer to the 650.
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    I too have unlimited and a t608. Never been an issue, when I asked the local store reps about the 3mb plan they didn't even know what I was talking about... However it would be humorous if sprint releases the patch to enable DUN profile ONLY if you agree to a new plan... That would suck!
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    Apart from the fact that I don't believe Sprint believes it will get away with such a move, I really really don't think a store rep is informed enough to know what the plans will be.
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    Don't ever believe what a store rep says. In my opinion about 90 percent of what they say is complete BS.
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    I don't know exactly what they are, but they are on the way. According to my sources, Vision will go up, but no one will be forced to adopt these. Basically, if you do, you will be "officially" granted tethering rights. This will be across the board for ALL phones, not just BT. It will give you the right to technical support through Sprint IF you are using their "Mobile Data Kit" which will return to corporate stores as this happens. Again, I have no idea what the pricing structure is, and I know $15 unlimited vision WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE, even to new customers. This will just be an added type of plan to try and entice people who are going to tether to give Sprint a little more money for the larger amounts of bandwidth they'll be tying up. No biggie. Thought I'd share.
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