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  1. #21  
    Speaking of fake eBay stuff, I put up a DV camera on eBay. I say "US buyers ony". So this guy (who says he's from Africa but has a Singapore eBay ID - warning sign one) bids on my item, THEN asks me if I will ship internationally. I tell him sorry, no, just US. But he ends up winning the bid and basically tries to strongarm me into selling because he won the bid. He also has no eBay record and created his account just a few days ago. He probably creates a new account every scam. Warning sign two. He said he'd use Western Union Bidpay and to use his DHL account to ship it.

    He made a point of making sure I send the camera immediately after getting the confirmation email from Western Union that a money order was sent. That makes me think he has a way to spoof Western Union or fake the messages. Warning sign three.

    So OK, I'll play along. If he sends me "cash now" through Western Union, I'd do it. "Send Cash Now" is safe because I get the jack right away. Now he suddenly clams up. Warning sign four.

    Basically, not only is he a scumbag to begin with by being a scammer, but he's an arrogant one too by basically ruining my eBay sale by actually bidding on it, costing me time and money. Now I have to go to the second guy (who had an excellent eBay record) and see if he still wants it. If not, I'll have to repost, as I said, costing me time and money. The scumbag knocks out an easy sale with that other guy just so he can pull a scam by blocking him out and winning the bid. That's probably what pisses me off most about this whole thing.
  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by mbranscum
    hello seller, hi GOOD DAY,i live in uk and i have a store in
    uk,europe,usa,and africa,singapore where i sell laptop,cellphones,video
    games and many other things.and i am interested in the immediate
    purchase of this item and i will like to buy 2 for $1050 and i will be
    making
    paymentright away,i shall also be paying through BIDPAY[money order] i
    will
    like toask u if u would be able to sip as soon as payment is confirmed
    and
    approved by western union auction payment,this is due to the fact that
    itsdemand is high in my store and so i will want to complete the
    transaction ina very timely manner.if you can do this,email me with your
    name,
    contactaddress and your phone number so that i can proceed with the
    payment
    rightaway. let me quickly saythat i will be handling shipping with my
    fedex
    account as i will be sending this unit to africa i wil l be expecting
    yourreply ASAP....... thanks best regard........""
    Gee, that message seems familiar - like the one I got below. See my message above

    "HELLO, I WILL LIKE TO MAKE IMMEDIATE PURCHASE NOW AND I OWN A STORE IN AFRICA WHERE I SELL ITEMS OF THIS KIND DVD, LAPTOP, PHONES,ND OTHERS ELECTRONICS. I MUST ALSO SAY THAT THE DEMAND FOR THIS PARTICULAR UNIT IS QUITE HIGH IN MY STORE AND SINCE YOU DO NOT SHIP TO AFRICA I SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHIPMENT DOWN TO AFRICA WITH MY DHL ACCOUNT, I WILL ALSO WANT TO TREAT THIS TRANSACTION WITH UTMOST URGENCY AS I HAVE BUYERS WILLING TO PAY QUITE A REASONABLE AMOUNT FOR THE UNIT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT WESTERN UNION AUCTION PAYMENTS/BIDPAY AS THE MODE OF PAYMENT SO THAT AS SOON AS YOU RECIEVE THE APPROVAL LETTER FROM THEM YOU CAN RELEASE THE ITEM FOR SHIPMENT.USUALLY A CONFIRMATION LETTER IS SENT FIRST AND THEN THE APPROVAL.WILL THIS BE POSSIBLE?I MEAN SHIPMENT IMMEDIATELY AFTER RECIEVAL OF CONFIRMATION AND APPROVAL MAIL, IF IT IS ,PLS GET BACK TO ME ASAP WITH THE ADDRESS TO WHICH PAYMENT SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO SO THAT WE BOTH CAN CONCLUDE THE TRANSACTION IN A VERY TIMELY"
    Last edited by DaleReeck; 11/09/2004 at 11:38 PM.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by KungFuJoe
    Let me just say that a former coworker of mine once bought a new laptop over eBay from an overseas seller. The seller didn't use PayPal or CC and only offered Western Union as a payment method. Well...the price was too good to turn down and my coworker did as suggested. To make a long story short. The money was taken from his account, and he never received a laptop. I don't know if he ever got his money back, but as soon as you mentioned Western Union, bells rang off in my head.

    Avoid this like the plague.
    Nuff said

    The Eurotrash are horrible theives when it comes to this.
  4. #24  
    it also violates the golden rule; if it seems to good to be true, then its a scam
  5. #25  
    This is the one I just got on my Treo 600 auction:

    hello, I`m interest on your item I see on ebay. Can i buy it in US$800 from credit card directly, So you can charge it with your chargemachine or merchant account. Let me know soon if you able to do it.Hope to hear you soon.Thank you. kind regards

    New ID, no feedback . . . riiiight.
  6. #26  
    Anyone read the story about the guy almost selling his laptop to a scammer in England? Here is a summary I copied from someone else:

    1) Jeff is trying to sell his friends laptop powerbook computer over e-bay. He gets an e-mail from some guy saying he wants to buy it thru some escrow service. Jeff takes a look at this guys escrow service and realizes it's fake(when the guy gets the powerbook, he'll disappear without paying anything) Jeff is in the USA while teh scam artist is in England.

    2) Jeff tells people on the somethingawful message board about this and eventually they decide to play a prank on him. They find out the address the guy wants the item shipped to. A poster from Britain offers to drive to the address. He finds that it is a Barbershop/Internet Cafe of all things.(which also sells computer equipment of course) He gets a haircut from the suspect and takes pictures of the store,location and people inside.

    3) Jeff's prank is that he will basically send him a fake powerbook(dubbed the P-P-P Powerbook, a three-ring binder with keys glued in it and a monitor drawn on with magic marker) The guy will recieve the box and have to pay the customs tax(which is anywhere from 300-500 US dollars)

    4) More of Englands best(now entitled the english goon squad) decide to stake out the place as they can track the packages movements and estimate its delivery time.

    5) There are multiple snags along the way, but in the end they get actual pictures and video tape and webcam video of the package being delivered. A spy in the barbershop hears them open the package and say "is it broken" while another gets angry. Another spy leaves a text screensaver on the internet cafe's computers saying something about P-P-P powerbooks and that customs thanks him for the money etc... Something like that.

    6) Later spies go back thru the dumpsters to try and retrieve the P-P-P powerbook to no avail. There are other plans in place such as sending him copies of teh pictures they took. Jeff is still awaiting an angry e-mail response. This has all happened in the last few days. Great stuff.

    The whole escapade was chronicled on-line as it was happening - very funny. Here is a link to the whole story: [warning - adult language] http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/
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  7. #27  
    Everytime I think about that story, I have to smile. Wonderful comedy.
  8. #28  
    A classic.... the true power of the internet.
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  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by mikec
    Nuff said

    The Eurotrash are horrible theives when it comes to this.
    And this would never happen in the US right ??? Please.
  10. #30  
    Actually, I hate to say it. but the far east - Malaysia, Singapore etc - is probably the worst place in the world for scams. In fact, many companies like PayPal won't even do business in Malaysia due to high credit card fraud. Which is unfortunate for the honest people over there.
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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...145848318&rd=1
    Here's another guy selling 5 units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmdied
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...145848318&rd=1
    Here's another guy selling 5 units.
    Same guy, he's back... Reported to eBay again...
  13. #33  
    Amazing... this is the same guy from the first auction.
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    #34  
    His email looked familiar. Where do they come from!!?? I've done a bit of business on Ebay myself and it seems to have gone the way of email and internet use: once a great productivity tool, now something to beware of.
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    It's gone!
  16. #36  
    Just look at my message at the top of this page. The scammers are getting more and more arrogant and brazen.
  17.    #37  
    HE'S BAACCKK!!! I have reported him everytime. He is getting smarter this time. He actually posts pictures of a 600 and lists it as a 650.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...535443333&rd=1
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    Its now an invalid item. BEWARE SCAMMERS!!!!
  19. #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by elliotchi
    I asked seller the following four questions:

    1. Are these 650 for CDMA or for GSM?
    2. How did you get them?
    3. Do they ship in the original box w/ all the software?
    4. Is this auction legit?

    Here are his answers:
    1. is for GSM
    2. i have a cell company and i have my leaders
    3. i will ship the phone in the original box with all the software
    4. sure is legit


    I dunno, what do you guys think?
    I doubt any one on Ebay has the 650 yet and I am always skeptical when buying off Ebay where the seller rarely sends a competent email in return with answers to your questions. Second, they always want payment first. In my few experiences buying, if they are truly legit, they will send it COD. A lot of them will say absolutely no COD and request payment first. How does that protect the buyer? It doesn't. If you ask for COD and even offer to pay COD fees and they say no, go with your hunch. Now there ARE a lot of legit folks out there, but I go with my gut and I never buy if they appear to not have a grasp of the english language.
    Eric
  20. #40  
    Quote Originally Posted by kirkeric
    I never buy if they appear to not have a grasp of the english language.
    It's generally a good idea to avoid generalizations. Just because someone speaks English as a second language doesn't automatically make them untrustworthy. I live in a city where there are more people who speak English as a second language than there are native English speakers and it is a comparably safe and nice place to live. Most of my co-workers speak English as a second language and they are all hard-working and honest. In my experience (and of course this means nothing because it is purely anectdotal) all the scammers I've had the displeasure to know have been white men from middle-class backgrounds. But of course we all know that the majority of middle-class white men are hard-working and honest.
    Oh, so they have internet on computers now!
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