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    Howard Stern (who has used his treo 600 for a year) was talking about the 650 today. He went down the spec sheet and talked about the upgrades.
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    Really? Howard Stern seems like the kind of guy who would make fun of people with Treo 650's
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    Nice... free pub or not, that'll get quite a few more people looking for the 650!!!

    More competition for the first ones!!!

    (unless your a road-show attendee!! )
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    No Howard Stern is a nerd too.
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    Howard Stern rules! His only drawback is his recent stance as a liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkeric
    Howard Stern rules! His only drawback is his recent stance as a liberal.
    It was only because of the FCC fines.
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    Yes and unfortunately, even he agrees that neither administration would have benefited him. Damn fines. People know how to turn the dial.

    To stay on topic though, I missed his comments on the phone today but that will no doubt have an impact on the number of people trying to get the 650.
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    I never thought Howard Stern and I would have something in common: tech-geek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkeric
    Howard Stern rules! His only drawback is his recent stance as a liberal.
    I would not call Howard Stern a liberal, Libertarian yes, liberal no. Howard, and many of us, believe it is not the governments place to tell us what to say or what we can listen too. This right is accorded to us by the first ammendment which has not been repealed the last time I checked. He came out against Bush because his FCC people started cracking down radio and TV stations for "indecent material" when they should have been reminding people that they don't HAVE to listen or watch things they don't like. Just my .02 and sorry for getting a little political.
    Last edited by bcoutlander; 11/05/2004 at 10:54 AM. Reason: my wonderful spelling ;)
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    I am a BIG supporter of Howard...love his show. I think if you see my comment above, that I am agreeing. But as even Howard stated...both the current administration and the would be would have both caused him problems. Like I said above, people know how to turn the dial. I am just as livid as he is when it comes to the FCC.
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    When Howard first got his T600 a year ago, someone posted the radio inverview on TC.......does anyone have this radio interview and could post it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkeric
    Howard Stern rules! His only drawback is his recent stance as a liberal.
    Stern is a Republican who heavily endorsed George Pataki and Christy Todd Whitman. He was just dissatisfied with the Bush administration this time around. Ditto for his rival Don Imus.
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    That was my belief too...since early on his was pro bush and how he is handling war. Did not mean to lead the discussion this way. Like I said, I love the stern show and fortunately, can separate political views and listen to an awesome show. Heck for that matter, that applies to hollywood celebrities...otherwise I wouldnt watch any movies
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    Well not sure where you got your political science degree, but since i have a masters in pol science I thought even most grade school kids knew that the freedom of speeck was not unlimited! I mean u cant stand up in the movies and yell fire. We have always and will always limit certain speech, if you notice he is now free to say whatever he wants on satellite, but the airwaves that the public pays for can not be used to say whatever he wants. Yes you are right I always have to right to turn the dial, but i bet if you had a prostitue crackhouse next door to you, would you just tell your kids, hey that is their right, just turn away children dont look, i mean you dont have to look do you, also if a person is nude you dont have to look but we still outlaw that
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    Quote Originally Posted by jancelet
    Well not sure where you got your political science degree, but since i have a masters in pol science I thought even most grade school kids knew that the freedom of speeck was not unlimited! I mean u cant stand up in the movies and yell fire. We have always and will always limit certain speech, if you notice he is now free to say whatever he wants on satellite, but the airwaves that the public pays for can not be used to say whatever he wants. Yes you are right I always have to right to turn the dial, but i bet if you had a prostitue crackhouse next door to you, would you just tell your kids, hey that is their right, just turn away children dont look, i mean you dont have to look do you, also if a person is nude you dont have to look but we still outlaw that
    Ummm, last I knew prostitution and use,sale, or possesion of crack were illegal. Freedom of speech is garunteed through the Constitution. Sorry to get off topic there, did anyone record Howard 's comment on the T650?
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    Jancelet: Two totally different subjects. Dtrain is right. Legal verses illegal. Yelling fire in a movie theater is certainly free speech but a little stupid too dont you think? I think there is an element of common sense here. A radio show is something you can entirely avoid by not tuning in. A crackhouse, even if the two were comparable is not something you can really avoid by just not looking. That is ludicrous. It should not take a masters to see this. I also dont think it appropriate to knock my degree just because I disagree with you.
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    He's got an est. 8-10 million listeners; what a great way to advertise.
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    I know this is also not the place, but Stern in no way can be called a libertarian (that has certain property implications besides free speach). It is also incorrect to claim that the airwaves are public property. You may be able to make a claim that they are open to the public at large and therefore the gov. gains some regulatory claim, However, this doesn't seem sound to me.

    Sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by jancelet
    Well not sure where you got your political science degree, but since i have a masters in pol science I thought even most grade school kids knew that the freedom of speeck was not unlimited! I mean u cant stand up in the movies and yell fire. We have always and will always limit certain speech, if you notice he is now free to say whatever he wants on satellite, but the airwaves that the public pays for can not be used to say whatever he wants. Yes you are right I always have to right to turn the dial, but i bet if you had a prostitue crackhouse next door to you, would you just tell your kids, hey that is their right, just turn away children dont look, i mean you dont have to look do you, also if a person is nude you dont have to look but we still outlaw that
    Your arguement is suspect at best. You have the right to turn it off. There is technology to filter it out.

    In addition, the very idea of the "public" owning the airwaves is nonsence when you look at it. They are nothing more than bandwidth owned by a few media conglomerates. If they were truely "public" they would all be not-for-profit and regulated like utilities.
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    The better argument is nudity on public TV. There's obviously a line of things that are indecent for children to have freely available access. I would include anything on the radio and anything on free TV as something children have free access of. While everyone has the right to turn it off, it's near impossible to prevent access to children.
    If things are deemed to be over that line then they can go to subscription places like HBO or Sirrus. The only question is where you draw that line. That's not a discussion I'll get into as it's going to be different for everyone.

    And for what it's worth, it is illegal to yell fire in a crowded movie theatre where there is no fire. It's also illegal to call in a bomb threat. Granted these are extreme examples. You might argue that free speech is guarenteed by the Constitution, but it does come with limits.
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