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    For some reason... I don't see this happening. They will most likely take the low road and say something like "Buy a car with Bluetooth"...

    Has anyone heard anything about a car kit? One that supports an external antenna? Or should I just go ahead and get a Treo 600 on Verizon?
    Last edited by kd6icz; 11/04/2004 at 01:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kd6icz
    For some reason... I don't see this happening. They will most likely take the low road and say something like "Buy a car with Bluetooth"...
    There will absolutely be a full car kit, I assume you mean a powered car cradle. It may not be PalmOne that does it, since I don't think they have a powered car cradle for the 600 currently, but someone will make one.

    My opinion at this point, but I seriously doubt that no one will make one. Bluetooth only solves one issue with using a phone in the car. Having a powered cradle for the car will be needed for people to get the most out of the phone.

    It's only a matter of time. There were no powered cradles for the 600 right away either.

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by kd6icz
    For some reason... I don't see this happening. They will most likely take the low road and say something like "Buy a car with Bluetooth"...

    Has anyone heard anything about a car kit? One that supports an external antenna? Or should I just go ahead and get a Treo 600 on Verizon?
    One of purported driving forces behind the decision to change the connecting port on the 650 was because the previous port (180-600) didn't support audio in/out. The 650's will, thus opening doors to car kit accessories. I have not heard anything about the antenna.
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    You're underestimating the significance of Bluetooth. You have 3 options:

    1. Buy a car with Bluetooth (Acura, BMW, Toyota, Lexus, Honda, etc. -- it's appearing in all new cars)
    2. Buy an OEM Bluetooth retrofit kit for your car
    3. Buy an aftermarket Bluetooth kit (Motorola, Sony Ericsson, etc.)

    All 3 options accomplish the same thing -- automatic transfer of calls to the hands-free via Bluetooth. This is not a "low road"... it is probably the most significant advancement for in car phone use today, and gives you more options than were ever available. Back when I bought my car, my only choice was a modified Motorola P8767 for something ridiculous like $1800. Needless to say, I passed on this. Today, a Bluetooth retrofit kit from the manufacturer lets me pair any Bluetooth phone to my car's system. Cost, $300. More phone options, less cost, more flexibility.

    The only thing you don't get is a car charger/cradle and antenna. The charger will probably be addressed pretty quickly, and external antennas are really pretty insignificant unless you're always in a fringe area.
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    unless you're always in a fringe area
    Exactly! I will be going in many many frenge areas! Some with no service at all. So an external antenna is not an option for me.

    I would prefer to use a hardwired, professionally installed car kit. The Bluetooh is nice feature. However, its not for me. The only thing I would like to have Bluetooth for would be so I can control my two Phatbox MP3 players in the trunk. I have a serial Bluetooth dongle for them. But I can live without that.

    So if the Treo 600 (and older) didn't have Audio In/Out in the dock connector, how did the current car kit get it's audio?
    Last edited by kd6icz; 11/04/2004 at 01:03 PM.
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  6. #6  
    The kits:
    http://www.expansys-usa.com/other.asp?cat=CARKI

    This previous thread might also be helpful. Interesting stuff.
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=61001



    Quote Originally Posted by kd6icz
    For some reason... I don't see this happening. They will most likely take the low road and say something like "Buy a car with Bluetooth"...

    Has anyone heard anything about a car kit? One that supports an external antenna? Or should I just go ahead and get a Treo 600 on Verizon?
  7. #7  
    Hi

    Seidio is currently working on car kit for Treo 650. Seidio also offers the car kit for Treo 600. Please visit www.seidioonline.com for details.

    Seidio
  8. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by seidioseidio
    Hi

    Seidio is currently working on car kit for Treo 650. Seidio also offers the car kit for Treo 600. Please visit www.seidioonline.com for details.

    Seidio
    This is great news. I emailed Seidio last week asking about that, but never received a response. Considering your nickname, is it safe to assume that you have this on good authority?

    Any timeframe for the Seidio kit?

    Thanks!

    Mike
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    I don't see where seidio makes any mention of an external antenna connection... This is the MOST IMPORTANT feature of the kit to me.
    Last edited by kd6icz; 11/04/2004 at 01:03 PM.
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    Samsung SCH-i600 (2005)
    Samsung SCH-i730 (2005 - 2006)
    Motorola Q (2006) JUNK!!!
    Palm Treo 700w (2006 - 2007)
    Pantech PN-820 (2007)
    Palm Treo 700wx (current)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kd6icz
    I don't see where seidio makes any mention of an external antenna connection... This is the MOST IMPORTANT feature of the kit to me.
    My guess would be that it is not a standard part of the kit since most people don't need an external antenna. Seidio's car kits, in general, are among the best that have been offered for the Treo series.

    Adding the external antenna is probably something that will either require a separate purchase from a Seidio -type kit, or will require an altogether different kit. Either way, I believe your need will be filled, it will only be a matter of time. The 650 does have the same connector for an external antenna as the 600 does, from what I remember.

    Mike
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    palmOne will sell the Parrot Bluetooth system as their car kits.
  12.    #12  
    The Car Kit for the 600 from PalmOne has an antenna connector. It gets the signal from surrounding the built in antenna. Capacitive coupling is what thats called. Motorola uses that on the v60 car kits.

    I prefer a micro coax connector in the bottom of the phone like my Qualcomm 860 and my Motorola Elite had... But I will take anything I can get.

    The problem with using the "test" connector located next to the stubby is that it is not designed for daily wear. it is solidered directly to the PC board and any little side play will bust it off the board.

    So.... I guess I will have to wait and see what PalmOne does about a car kit for the Treo 650. Otherwise I will have to make due with a Treo 600.

    The xScale processor and the 320 x 320 screen would be nice for running a navigation program.

    But of course the other issue is when will Verizon Wireless carry the 650? That could be another 8 months away.
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    Kyocera QCP-6035 (2001 - 2003)
    Samsung SPH-i700 (2003 - 2004) JUNK!!!!
    PalmOne Treo 600 CDMA (2005)
    Samsung SCH-i600 (2005)
    Samsung SCH-i730 (2005 - 2006)
    Motorola Q (2006) JUNK!!!
    Palm Treo 700w (2006 - 2007)
    Pantech PN-820 (2007)
    Palm Treo 700wx (current)
  13. #13  
    palmOne's current car kit is made by THB. THB, in turn, only needs to manufacter the cradle that would be specific to the 650. In fact, if you already have the current car kit, you would just have to buy the new cradle. Same with any other phone if you were to switch.
    The main downside to the THB kit is the $$$.
  14. #14  
    Bluetooth only from PalmOne? No thanks. Bluetooth doesn't power my treo. Seidio, you're up.
    Gabe Kangas
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  15. #15  
    can either the Parrot or Seidio car kits work if the radio is OFF? I know that the car kits will mute the car stereo, but if the stereo is off, will the call still come through the speakers?
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  16. #16  
    Yes it will. I had a Sony P900 and had it hard wired. It even worked when the car was off. I assume they are all the same.
  17. #17  
    nice
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  18. #18  
    i would just buy a blue tooth integrated kit, then wait for a holder/charger.
    i just picked up a sony kit for 100 bucks (and the car stereo wires for 40). if you have bluetooth, use it. i will have it installed and working for about 230 bucks (that includes a charge for install). what will a holder/charger cost, i think less than 70 bucks. for around 300 you can have the whole thing professionally installed and working. save yourself a couple hundred bucks and use the bluetooth.
    the other nice thing is that other phones that have bluetooth can use it too. if you share your car or have another BT phone, someone will not have to have a 650 to use the handsfree.
  19.    #19  
    I just talked to THB. Their will be a car kit for the 650. It will be available in Jan. I asked about a port to connect a GPS. They said that has been discussed and may be on the final product. But not for sure.

    Now I just have to wait until Verizon carries the 650 and I will be set.
    Qualcomm pdQ-800 (1999 - 2001)
    Kyocera QCP-6035 (2001 - 2003)
    Samsung SPH-i700 (2003 - 2004) JUNK!!!!
    PalmOne Treo 600 CDMA (2005)
    Samsung SCH-i600 (2005)
    Samsung SCH-i730 (2005 - 2006)
    Motorola Q (2006) JUNK!!!
    Palm Treo 700w (2006 - 2007)
    Pantech PN-820 (2007)
    Palm Treo 700wx (current)
  20. #20  
    How's that work with a integrated bluetooth car kit install? I just got a new car, and i want to integrate my treo into it. I've looked at all kinds of different kits, from the one piece "blob" kit that just plugs into the cigarette lighter to the full wired mic cut off the stereo when the phone rings type. Can you just show up to your dealer with the later kit and say "Could you install this?" I have no aux ports on my stock stereo or anything, so i'm not sure of the options
    Gabe Kangas
    Achievatron 2004 - ?
    Visor Deluxe -> Treo 300 -> TREO 600 -> Treo 650

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