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  1. #21  
    1. I went crosseyed reading the topic of this thread

    2. I agree...i mean okay there is no wifi...but i mean, like it or lump it....there are huge improvements (in a gsm perspective) for this 650....it would be great if the SD slot in the 650 would be able to use the Wifi SD card...but if it doesnt...oh well...
  2. #22  
    I dont think anyone disagrees that we would all love it if it simply came with wi-fi but from the sounds of things, about 95% of us/you will still buy it. I think the one person covered it well earlier by saying that it is really not efficient in terms of battery use and the technology is difficult to maintain to warrant adding the capability.

    My question would be this. I am sure wi-fi would be lightening fast on downloads compared to what the carrier provides but what are the max speeds that the PHONE is capable of downloading. That is the real hitch. I use the hell out of my 600 for email, web browsing, etc and it has been generally pretty acceptable and leaps and bounds ahead of anything else.

    Eric
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    I guess "acceptable" is a relative term. Connecting via modem speeds of 300 baud were acceptable in 1985. However, I've found that since I have broadband from home and work, acceptable for me is what "broadband" or getting to CNN.com in 30 seconds at max instead of the 2-3 minutes it currently takes.
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    who here has an edge plan anyway or plans on getting one? Dont they go for around 80/month? thats a lot for data.
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    A good sprint plan with phone minutes is still about $100 per month, unlimited data. Pretty expensive. For bmacfarland: right, acceptable is relative, but this is a PHONE, not bad, all things considered. I am curious though, my 600 doesn't take anywhere near 2-3 minutes to bring a page down. It sounds like there is an expectation that the 600 or 650 serve at the level of a PC.

    For the average person, the mere thought of visiting internet sites and doing banking on ones phone is unbelievable. I love broadband and once again, wish it were on the phone too but where do you draw the line and have a little patience. I am just a common sense type here - things will come in time.
  6. #26  
    "Even though Sprint has a pretty good coverage area, there are still HUGE chunks of the US that are roaming. I am often times in roaming mode in backwaters, OR, ID, CA, and WY. When you roam...No Vision...No Vision then No Data....No Data then No Internet....No Internet then No Email or Web Access. No Internet or Email Access then I am tough out of luck while sitting in a McDonalds with Wifi waves flying all around me begging to be used "

    That's it! I live in OR. All the talk about EvDo etc. sounds great but I'd just settle for any PCS coverage. We don't have to travel far to be roaming. And roaming on Sprints network is almost useless.
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by scsanden
    "Even though Sprint has a pretty good coverage area, there are still HUGE chunks of the US that are roaming. I am often times in roaming mode in backwaters, OR, ID, CA, and WY. When you roam...No Vision...No Vision then No Data....No Data then No Internet....No Internet then No Email or Web Access. No Internet or Email Access then I am tough out of luck while sitting in a McDonalds with Wifi waves flying all around me begging to be used "

    That's it! I live in OR. All the talk about EvDo etc. sounds great but I'd just settle for any PCS coverage. We don't have to travel far to be roaming. And roaming on Sprints network is almost useless.
    Perfect example. Fits me, too.

    Sometimes, out in the country, no digital phone service, no cdma, no edge, only a lowly McDonalds or Starbucks if I am very lucky. Now, how do I check my email or access the web? Hmmm wi-fi is the only tool out there. I think a blackberry would work, but that is a different story all the way around.
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    Good to see another Oregonian. While I live in Maryland now, I grew up in Milton-Freewater Oregon. Military guy now. Sorry to hear about the coverage there - At least you have a beautiful view of the contryside. So you can use the new cam. <kidding>
    Eric
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by kirkeric
    A good sprint plan with phone minutes is still about $100 per month, unlimited data. Pretty expensive. For bmacfarland: right, acceptable is relative, but this is a PHONE, not bad, all things considered. I am curious though, my 600 doesn't take anywhere near 2-3 minutes to bring a page down. It sounds like there is an expectation that the 600 or 650 serve at the level of a PC.

    For the average person, the mere thought of visiting internet sites and doing banking on ones phone is unbelievable. I love broadband and once again, wish it were on the phone too but where do you draw the line and have a little patience. I am just a common sense type here - things will come in time.
    My good Sprint plan costs $40 a month with unlimited data, so not too expensive. It's all relative to how many minutes you need. Anyway, I'm not sure that's on the topic.

    Are you getting full graphics? Try going to CNN.com and timing it. I bet it takes over 2 minutes. This has been tested in other threads and I have yet to see someone get significantly under that. Maybe on some days someone could get a 1:40 or something, I don't know. But everyone in the thread realized that it took over 2 minutes. However now that I do a search for that thread I find another old thread http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=34010 and it seems that most of it might be due to the rendering speed of the Treo 300's slow processor, something that has improved on the Treo 600 and will be upgraded greatly on the Treo 650. I have the Treo 600 and it's worth noting that it doesn't take me 3.5 minutes but around 2, so I have hope for the Treo 650.

    Still nothing is going to be as fast as wifi and if I know I'm in a wifi spot I want to use that.
  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    My good Sprint plan costs $40 a month with unlimited data, so not too expensive. It's all relative to how many minutes you need. Anyway, I'm not sure that's on the topic.

    Are you getting full graphics? Try going to CNN.com and timing it. I bet it takes over 2 minutes. This has been tested in other threads and I have yet to see someone get significantly under that. Maybe on some days someone could get a 1:40 or something, I don't know. But everyone in the thread realized that it took over 2 minutes. However now that I do a search for that thread I find another old thread http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=34010 and it seems that most of it might be due to the rendering speed of the Treo 300's slow processor, something that has improved on the Treo 600 and will be upgraded greatly on the Treo 650. I have the Treo 600 and it's worth noting that it doesn't take me 3.5 minutes but around 2, so I have hope for the Treo 650.

    Still nothing is going to be as fast as wifi and if I know I'm in a wifi spot I want to use that.
    cnn.com on a PDA2k using Wifi.

    22 seconds full page download (full graphics, everything). All this while streaming music off the internet too.

  11. #31  
    How's the battery life on the PDA2K?
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by KRamsauer
    How's the battery life on the PDA2K?
    PDA2k Battery Life Tests
    On the bottom half of this page: http://pocketpcdubai.com/i-mate_PPC...view_page3.html

    I would like to highlight again that the tests were performed with "maximum backlight" which should not give the ordinary Pocket PC user an indication of the actual battery performance in standard usage in real life. Obviously the power hungry screen drains the battery very fast so to have a longer running device it is always expected to lower the screen brightness as low as you can to a level where you feel comfortable using the device on battery power. The best way to utilize the full screen brightness is when the device is connected to a power source.

    I set my backlight to only 1 notch from the bottom. Its easy to see and use at this level (to save battery).
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by farzonalmaneih
    cnn.com on a PDA2k using Wifi.

    22 seconds full page download (full graphics, everything). All this while streaming music off the internet too.
    That's what I'm talking about. However, I still like the usability and form factor of the Treo. PDA2K is close, but I don't think I'm ready to make that move yet. I'll wait out this wifi thing and hope to get it all when drivers are issued.
  14. #34  
    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    That's what I'm talking about. However, I still like the usability and form factor of the Treo. PDA2K is close, but I don't think I'm ready to make that move yet. I'll wait out this wifi thing and hope to get it all when drivers are issued.
    I think I will do the same. I don't have a Treo or a PPC phone now, so either will be a new experience for me. From reading thorough reviews of each, the Treo just sounds like it would be more useable for me. I do wish it had wi-fi and I haven't figure out how I will get around that other than hope for a card driver, or pray that the CDMA service is fast enough to keep me happy.

    Now, I only have to think about if I should get the CDMA or GSM-EDGE version. In either case, I have to make the purchase before mid-January.
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    #35  
    Wi-fi is great on my hp 6315 and I get great speeds as well as great battery lfe (it's got an 1800 mah battery). I charge it every other night just as did my treo. As far as size, I keep it in my back pocket and only my BT headset shows. At any rate, the dimensions of mine wth no case (only egrips) is probably near identical to a treo 600 with a vaja ivolution case on.
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    I really enjoy browsing the web on my Sprint Treo 600 and would say that I'm satisfied with the speed on over 90% of the web sites that I visit.

    I have set up my own home page with links to other sites that I frequently visit and this work out just great. With webviewer, the cnn site loads in about 25 seconds.
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    #37  
    Quote Originally Posted by jlczl
    Wi-fi is great on my hp 6315 and I get great speeds as well as great battery lfe (it's got an 1800 mah battery). I charge it every other night just as did my treo. As far as size, I keep it in my back pocket and only my BT headset shows. At any rate, the dimensions of mine wth no case (only egrips) is probably near identical to a treo 600 with a vaja ivolution case on.
    Same here with XDA II, I use BT headset to talk so PDAin holster doesn't really bother me being (Very slightly) bigger than treo, with 600 I had no BT and with 650 (not that I will buy one without Wifi) I would have used BT anyway so any slighlt size difference wouldn't matter!
  18. #38  
    My 2 cents for what it's worth. First, I use Sprint Vision daily for email and news. Secondly, I travel a lot (over 100,000 air miles this year alone) and I have never had a need for wifi on my Treo. If I'm at an airport or on the road at a McDonalds, the odds are I have coverage; and in the rare instances where I don't have coverage, I'm not the type to go looking for a hot spot. I am a complete gadget freak (owned the Treo 300 the day it came out), but I still have no need for wifi on my Treo. I have a wireless network at home (and have had one for over 2 years now) and still have no need for wifi (even with my crappy sprint coverage at home - that's because I use my laptop at home for wireless access).

    I understand there are some people out there who may need wifi on their Treo (I especially understand that people with disconnected PDA's or on expensive data plans may need wifi), but the point is I don't think it's a majority - or even close. I do think it is a very vocal minority. With that said, I understand why palmone chose not to include it (and the extra cost - no matter how slight that is) in the 650.

    Feel free to flame if you must, but just my 2 cents.
  19. #39  
    I understand what you are saying Tim. All we are asking for is the ability to stick in a wi-fi card into the SDIO slot. It would not increase the cost of your unit, and it would enable me to be as functional in my world use as you are in yours...all with the same device.

    PalmOne has a wi-fi card, has other units that accept the wi-fi card, therefore has drivers for their wi-fi card, so why not allow the SDIO slot on the Treo 650 to accept and use the PalmOne wi-fi SDIO card? Pretty simple.
  20.    #40  
    Quote Originally Posted by rbright
    I understand what you are saying Tim. All we are asking for is the ability to stick in a wi-fi card into the SDIO slot. It would not increase the cost of your unit, and it would enable me to be as functional in my world use as you are in yours...all with the same device.

    PalmOne has a wi-fi card, has other units that accept the wi-fi card, therefore has drivers for their wi-fi card, so why not allow the SDIO slot on the Treo 650 to accept and use the PalmOne wi-fi SDIO card? Pretty simple.
    Exactly.....well said!
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