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  1. #221  
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean18
    I want to do more than just phone service, but I certainly need a solid phone signal. I have dropped several clients in the middle of a cell call - you know how unacceptable that is in our business... What about a quad-band phone - do they pick up a good TDMA signal when GSM isn't strong enough?
    If the GSM Treo 650 is quadband like the Treo 600, it will ONLY pick up the
    4 GSM bands, no TDMA.
  2. #222  
    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad
    Has there been any evidence indicating that this will be the first Treo with analog(AMPS 800) support?
    don't count on it, all carriers are moving away from AMPS
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  3. #223  
    Quote Originally Posted by gcs
    sigh....

    WirelessModem

    http://www.notifymail.com/palm/wmodem/index.shtml

    does the same thing (and apparently supports linux and windows as well)

    No need to start any mac/pc flame wars, just want to make sure that people aren't misled into thinking they can't use their Treos as a wireless modem for their macs (which rock btw)...

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  4. #224  
    Cahsdad, if you took any pics with the T650, please post them. I would love to see the difference in quality from the T600.
    Make It Happen!!
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  5. #225  
    Quote Originally Posted by stephman
    If the GSM Treo 650 is quadband like the Treo 600, it will ONLY pick up the
    4 GSM bands, no TDMA.
    Yeah, I think you have to choose one or the other, regardless of the bands they use since it's a system you're talking about, not a mere frequency. But the point is this: it really doesn't depend upon which system you have. Everything depends upon the serendipitous relationship between your house and the nearest and/or strongest cell tower. Whatever happens to be either stronger or nearer (depending upon terrain, though this is usually not a factor in the vicinity of beaches) is the choice for you. I don't know if there are surveys (there are maps, but I dont think signal strength surveys, on the web and if you are lucky enough to find a tower you didn't know about is right in your back yard, so to speak, you might luck out) but it's crazy to go out and buy a phone before knowing. Either get a lender or try some friends' phones who use different providers.
  6. #226  
    Quote Originally Posted by mdavis
    it's crazy to go out and buy a phone before knowing. Either get a lender or try some friends' phones who use different providers.

    I got the 15-day test period - so no financial loss, except for airtime...
  7. #227  
    Quote Originally Posted by mdavis
    Yeah, I think you have to choose one or the other, regardless of the bands they use since it's a system you're talking about, not a mere frequency. But the point is this: it really doesn't depend upon which system you have. Everything depends upon the serendipitous relationship between your house and the nearest and/or strongest cell tower. Whatever happens to be either stronger or nearer (depending upon terrain, though this is usually not a factor in the vicinity of beaches) is the choice for you. I don't know if there are surveys (there are maps, but I dont think signal strength surveys, on the web and if you are lucky enough to find a tower you didn't know about is right in your back yard, so to speak, you might luck out) but it's crazy to go out and buy a phone before knowing. Either get a lender or try some friends' phones who use different providers.
    So there is no way of increasing my ability of getting a signal? I am moving to Seattle next summer, so this will not be a problem after that, but for now it is a real pain!!!
  8. #228  
    That's not what I meant to say. Assuming there is some useable signal, a repeater can amplify and, to a limited extent, clean it up a bit. This would be a signal that you couldn't possibly use without the phone, so this might work. What I meant was that maybe there is a signal you wouldn't need to repeat, if you could find some other provider near you who had a tower in a fortuitous location.
  9. #229  
    Gotcha - how about this question... Since Cingular recently bought ATT Wireless, are they already sharing the same towers? If I currently have ATT and the service sux, can I assume the test-drive Cingular coming in the mail this week will equally suck?
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    #230  
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean18
    Gotcha - how about this question... Since Cingular recently bought ATT Wireless, are they already sharing the same towers? If I currently have ATT and the service sux, can I assume the test-drive Cingular coming in the mail this week will equally suck?

    No it is quite possible for it to work the other way around. AT&T never had a signal, but now they are with Cingular and they had coverage you will get access to it as well. Just because AT&T didnt have service in an area doesnt mean noone else, in this case Cingular, did either. This works both ways, or not at all.
  11. #231  
    Thanks. Sorry for getting off the subject at hand. Back to the Treo 650 - does anyone know FOR SURE about whether it is 32 MB or 64 MB? Also, in video mode will it only allow a certain number of seconds of recording, or will it record as much as you have room for on your SD card?
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    #232  
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean18
    I want to do more than just phone service, but I certainly need a solid phone signal. I have dropped several clients in the middle of a cell call - you know how unacceptable that is in our business... What about a quad-band phone - do they pick up a good TDMA signal when GSM isn't strong enough?
    Before I got my T600 I had a Nokia 6430i with Cingular and it is a tri mode phone, picks up ANALOG, TDMA, and GSM...its called a GAIT phone on their website. The nationwide GAIT plan had GREAT coverage, if you had a signal you can talk, no roaming. So if its just talking you want then that phone might work well for you. If you are looking for other features like included in the T600 you'll have to look elsewhere. For just plain talking, the Nokia 6340i was as good a phone as I had ever used since it got signal almost everywhere.
  13. #233  
    Well, PalmOne better get on it (releasing the 650)...T-Mobile now has the new Blackberry phone for sale:
    http://www.t-mobile.com/products/ima...0789&class=pda
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    #234  
    Quote Originally Posted by bmacfarland
    Ummm, no I wouldn't rather use my computer, that's the point. I have a desktop that's on all the time, but it's not all the comfy to sit at while watching a ball game. I also have a laptop, but it's an older, bigger, heavier one that's really bogged down with some programs and the like. I don't like the non-mouse type input on it - prefer the stylus. The 30 feet is not an issue for me. Also, I could potentially stream music over the BT connection. In short, this reverse tethering would be my poor man's wifi for just my home because it's appearing that wifi might not be available again.
    Yeah, good luck with that. I'm sure that's number one on PalmOne's list of priorities for the Treo 650, as there's a such a huge market for it.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it, but I just strongly doubt we will. If standard tethering is even a question (considering the carriers could be making serious money by officially offering and supporting that) do you seriously think they would offer "reverse tethering," which would only serve to minimize the amount of time their customers were consuming costly airtime minutes?

    You're better off hoping for a compatible WiFi SD card... maybe a Treo 650 driver for this:
    http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7053
    (Although considering how many years we've been waiting to that card, I wouldn't hold my breath.)

    Or more appropriately, get a better laptop. Or a Tablet PC if you get such a a woody for the stylus.
  15. #235  
    Quote Originally Posted by Fofer
    Yeah, good luck with that. I'm sure that's number one on PalmOne's list of priorities for the Treo 650, as there's a such a huge market for it.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it, but I just strongly doubt we will. If standard tethering is even a question (considering the carriers could be making serious money by officially offering and supporting that) do you seriously think they would offer "reverse tethering," which would only serve to minimize the amount of time their customers were consuming costly airtime minutes?

    You're better off hoping for a compatible WiFi SD card... maybe a Treo 650 driver for this:
    http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=7053
    (Although considering how many years we've been waiting to that card, I wouldn't hold my breath.)

    Or more appropriately, get a better laptop. Or a Tablet PC if you get such a a woody for the stylus.
    Well, I think it's lesser of two evils for a carrier (well Sprint at least). If I'm a carrier I'd be okay with them using reverse tethering because I've already got my money for Vision -- the less traffic on my network the better. That's a win-win. With tethering you likely use significantly more data and that's a drain on the carrier's resources.

    And while I'm not saying I'm likely to see this, it's the ONLY advantage of bluetooth for me. I'm digging for something useful out of this thing that everyone seems to want.

    Yes, I know I'm better off waiting for a wifi card, but that's not looking like an option. Thus, I'm asking if it's possible to make lemonade out of lemons (crappy bluetooth, no wifi).

    Spending $1,000 isn't much of a solution, especially where I prefer something small to just give me the information I need. Ideally the Treo would support wifi so it can be a converge another device. Otherwise, I'd likely be looking at getting another PDA just for wifi, and that's really, really wasteful.

    Throwing money or getting extra gadgets are not always a solution. One has to remember that the reason to get a Treo is convergence and anything that requires an extra device for something that is held up by software or policy is unacceptable to me.
  16. #236  
    I was interested to see that they apparently dropped CityTime that was on the Treo600 and am assuming that the Calendar app which I wrote for Handspring some five years ago has probably been replaced with either the PalmSource Datebook or possibly PalmOne's proprietary calendar app/database that they use on the new Tungsten's and Zire's. Did you have a chance to see if the calendar app was Datebook+ (referred to as Calendar on the Treo600) or the regular Datebook app?
    Just curious! As far as I am concerned, if they have dropped Datebook+, it just means I'll end up with a bigger market for Datebk5 <g>.
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    cesdewar:

    Welcome to Treocentral. And there will ALWAYS be a great market for Datebk5. Can't wait to use it again on a hires screen.
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
    If it works for you, it is "P"erfect.
  18. #238  
    cesd -

    Was it only a one time fee for Datebook+ (which I have been using since my Visor Deluxe Days)?
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    oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy .... this is sweet... those pictures were better than porn.

    seriously i think i have to put my treo on ebay now..
    oh this release date + backorders are gonna kill me .. i can tell right now ! >.<
  20. #240  
    Quote Originally Posted by tialoc
    You guys ever hear of PDANet? Who gives a hoot about a bluetooth modem if you can use the cable and PDANet. Are you going to be holding the laptop up to your head while your driving? More than likely you're going to be sitting at a desk/table/sofa... I don't understand why having a wireless connection to a modem is that big of a deal? I'm not looking to flame but just curious...

    Oh, and that guy asking about the stylus/pen combo... all I can say is.. sheesh!!
    If you have a tablet PC and you're moving around, you'd want BT in tethered mode. Try walking around carrying your tablet PC with a cable connected to your Treo on your belt.

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