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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R
    The solution? A clamshell design along the lines of a smaller Nokia Communicator or Danger hiptop/Sidekick. That way they could have a keyboard that's even bigger and more comfortable than the Tungsten C's while still keeping the phone very small when you close the clamshell.

    And yes, now I have no choice but to submit my design which many of you are long past sick of seeing...
    http://hipnetic.com/geek/treo_new2.gif

    Scott
    Have you seen the Nokia 6800:
    http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,4486,00.html

    This gives you lots of space for a keyboard without impacting the phone form factor. I think this form factor could be a winner for users who primarily need a phone, but also use a PDA. What do you think?
  2. #42  
    Quote Originally Posted by mjw
    Have you seen the Nokia 6800:
    http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,4486,00.html

    This gives you lots of space for a keyboard without impacting the phone form factor. I think this form factor could be a winner for users who primarily need a phone, but also use a PDA. What do you think?

    Yeah, the 6800 is an interesting device and there was alot of discussion about it when it was first leaked last year. However the one major disadvantage of the 6800 and other thumbboard enabled devices like the forthcoming Moto Mpx is the lack of one-handed functionality. That is the ability to enter data with one hand via thumbboard or other keys. The Nokia 6800 is clearly a two handed device which has it positives, but I like the ability to enter data on my Treo with only one hand... Other problems with the 6800 is that it's a Series 40 phone and thus not Symbian OS! Otherwise it is an interesting device...
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  3. #43  
    The "split keyboard" would drive me mad, I think.
  4. #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by nrosser
    well - funk - I thought I remebered someone (maybe ScottR, maybe seldompositive) mentioning that once, with some kind of basis for it. I could be wrong though.
    Are you sure that wasn't SeldomRight you are thinking about?
  5. #45  
    mjw, as gfunk said, the 6800 is Series 40, rather than Series 60, so there's not a lot of add-on apps for it (though a few are trickling out). It also has a really low res screen. The screen res probably isn't too different from the Treo 600, but it's a lot lower than the 480x320 device I mocked up.

    Scott
    Now THIS is the future of smartphones.
  6. #46  
    I called PalmONE about a half an hour ago and they told me that their information is that no cameraless treo has ever been, nor ever will be available. The rep also added that they get tons of calls about it and every time they give the same answer.

    I also called Sprint Telesales and they rep said that he had read something about the next Treo, he thought it was the 660, but after looking around he could only find the Treo ACE and Treo 600 in his database, he put me on hold and went to check with someone else and when he came back he said that nobody knew if it was even available, much less how I could purchase one.
    He then transferred me to Business Customer Service. (who transferred me back to personal, oops...) Now I'm talking to Business telesales. 888-233-3538 (Josh) who told me that he was not aware of any model besides the 300 and 600, he also went to check with his department lead and another coworker who confirmed that they only carry the 300 and 600. I asked if there was an Enterprise customer service department (as suggested in another post that it was only available to Enterprise customers) and he said that they only had Personal and Business.

    In summary, since I have talked to four people at Sprint and two people at PalmONE, I believe that this is truly another rumor, much like the Treo 660

    I wish it were true, but alas I guess I'll be getting a plain 600!

    -Joe
  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by viper0775
    I called PalmONE about a half an hour ago and they told me that their information is that no cameraless treo has ever been, nor ever will be available.
    -- http://discuss.treocentral.com/showp...1&postcount=14

    Something rotten in Denmark? (or thereabouts?)

    Or perhaps simply here:

    -- http://discuss.treocentral.com/showp...0&postcount=11

    And let us not forget this one - complete with a picture:

    -- http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...29&postcount=5
  8. #48  
    LOL.. Oh, I trust anyone who can talk about sheep husbandry and keep a straight face! =)

    "Then sheep husband e - post to enterprise direct in due course Treo oavsett each husband be located themselves"

    Until I talk to someone (I trust) who has one in their hand, or a wireless sales rep who can give me a price and a way to order it...... sorry, not buyin` it.
  9. #49  
    It should be remembered that all "confirmed rumors" (...) about the cameraless TREO 600 have said that the numbering remains the same but the internal part number is different. Thus any Sprint Rep would have to explicitly know what to look for since a TREO 600 may not be the same as a TREO 600...
  10. #50  
    Yeah, I read to him all of the posts about the different numberin schemes and all, plus he talked to his supervisor, you'd think if something like this was actually released, there would've been a memo or something? =)
  11. #51  
    Hey! TreoCentral even has PICTURES of one!

    It MUST be real!!!

    (...)
  12.    #52  
    Like I had in my original post, and someone on the forum added to, have a Sprint rep look it up as POTR600NC as the sku in the computer and it will pop up. If a Sprint rep has not looked for it, they won't know about it since it is not in stores yet, only telesales apparently.
  13. #54  
    No, aparently the four reps at Sprint are dim... I just talked to another rep who knew what I was talking about when I asked the question the first time, she has sold a few of them already. My questions were about the features of the product besides the lack of a camera, and she read off the stats for it and it seems to have the same RAM, screen size, and all as the regular 600...
  14. #55  
    For those who doubt me, and I tend not to care since I know what I have here in my possesion I have posted two more picture (1 of the phone and 1 of the box)

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ad.php?t=51904
  15. #56  
    PRPRPR-$fluff$ $out$ $of$ $Sprint$:

    -- http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040608/cgtu025_1.html
  16. #57  
    palmOne (PLMO-$21-E-V/I) Non-Camera Treo 600 Introduced
    Arindam Basu
    • Sprint Announced a Non-Camera version of the palmOne Treo 600 Smartphone — Now Available Nationwide Through Business Channels The noncamera Treo 600 was introduced due to corporate security concerns associated with camera phones. The only difference between the new model and the original Treo 600 is the lack of a camera, with all other specifications remaining the same.
    • The Launch of the Treo 600 Has Been Received with Highly Favorable Reviews — The Treo 600, which was launched in Q303, is currently being shipped to AT&T Wireless, Cingular, KPN, Orange, Rogers Wireless, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile. palmOne expects to make the product available to an additional three carriers by the end of 2004, including Verizon Wireless.
    • However, We Are Concerned palmOne is Excessively Leveraged to the Success of the Treo 600 — First, we have not seen a plan from management to develop the Treo 600 into a full product line that taps other market segments. Second, we are uncertain about palmOne’s operating leverage as it ramps up production of the Treo 600, given its relatively lower production volumes of voicecentric products (versus other manufacturers).
    • Maintain Equal-weight-V Rating; No Changes to Estimates — Inexpensive valuation versus comparables provides an attractive entry point, in our view,
    but also likely signals that the company needs to prove that it is not a one-hit wonder in the smartphone category.
    • Wireless Infrastructure Industry view is: In-Line — We believe the wireless infrastructure industry can begin to participate in both intermediate and longer term growth opportunities based on wireless carriers’ need to introduce new services as well as improve existing coverage and quality.
    • View quick comment via Client Link at: https://secure.ms.com/ER/ebs/2004/ny/pl/plmo060804_.pdf
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