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    i know this is a silly question but i can't figure out how to "disconnect" from the web besides completely turning off the wireless connection with main button on top. surely there's an easier way right?
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    Prefs, Network but even this doesn't satisfy most people - please see this thread http://discussion.treocentral.com/tc...-t49102/s.html
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    I have wondered about that too..
    I have a Sprint CDMA phone... I connect to the web// do my browsing and go onto doing other things. I've wondered
    if I'm still "techincally connected to the web? I part of
    my SPRINT plan is to have their unlimited "PCS Vision".
    I've never seen any out of the ordinary high bills so I've
    never worried about it or bothered to ask Sprint (why hang
    on hold for 2 hours to have a curiosity question answered when
    it doesn't appear to matter anyway)..

    Curious in Seattle...
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    It matter not a jot. Just a quick explanation - when you connect for data you set up a connection with the SGSN supporting GPRS in your area, effectively you set a flag from "standby" to active or ready on the SGSN - for this you are not charged.

    The SGSN, when requested to retrieve data via the internet opens a connection with the Gateway GPRS Support Node(GGSN).

    The GGSN performs the role of the bridge between your telecomms network and www, it is only data retrieved via the GGSN you are charged for. i.e if you request no data you are not charged for merely staying connected.

    Indeed most operators would prefer this mode of operation as there is less signalling overhead per subscriber when they do request data. For people who are interested in how this stuff works I will start a thread and post some links to telecoms agencies as details on most of this is hosted on them.
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    Originally posted by cjgloor
    I have wondered about that too..
    I have a Sprint CDMA phone... I connect to the web// do my browsing and go onto doing other things. I've wondered
    if I'm still "techincally connected to the web? I part of
    my SPRINT plan is to have their unlimited "PCS Vision".
    I've never seen any out of the ordinary high bills so I've
    never worried about it or bothered to ask Sprint (why hang
    on hold for 2 hours to have a curiosity question answered when
    it doesn't appear to matter anyway)..

    Curious in Seattle...
    Yes, you're "technically" still connected to the web. But that doesn't matter. If Spring monitors anything, it bytes, not time. And as long as the arrows are gray, no bytes are moving.

    I've been told staying connected increases battery drain, but I'm not sure I understand why this should be true.
    Bob Meyer
    I'm out of my mind. But feel free to leave a message.
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    Do any of the good third party apps add a link to disconnect from the network? Or is there a way to create a shortcut? I too find this annoying and was wondering if others had a better solutions.

    TIA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by driddle
    Do any of the good third party apps add a link to disconnect from the network? Or is there a way to create a shortcut? I too find this annoying and was wondering if others had a better solutions.

    TIA!
    There are some aplications to do it:

    Two DA: (free)
    NetConnectDa: http://members.tripod.com/~hokamoto/palm.html
    NetDa (included in ContextDa): http://www.palmgear.com/software/sho...fm?prodID=5140

    And a program: (not free)
    NetSelect: http://www.79bmedia.com/
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    Does the above excellent explanation also hold for GSM (T-Mobile in my case) systems?

    I can make and receive telephone calls when Blazer is not in use but when the green arrows are flying over the bars - therefore, no harm (to me) done - I think.

    So, I guess the battery drain issue may be the only concern (if at all!)

    This forum is SUCH a great source of information!

    Thanks dragondefuego for the link!

    DFS
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragondefuego
    There are some aplications to do it:

    Two DA: (free)
    NetConnectDa: http://members.tripod.com/~hokamoto/palm.html
    NetDa (included in ContextDa): http://www.palmgear.com/software/sho...fm?prodID=5140

    And a program: (not free)
    NetSelect: http://www.79bmedia.com/
    NetConnectDa + McPhling rock!!!

    I can finally *easily* disconnect my Treo 600 from the network. I configured McPhling to launch the favorite apps list by holding down the 'up' rocker and including NetConnectDa in the list. (The 'down' rocker is configured to switch back to the last app.) This DA is even 5-way button friendly. Just give the DA a couple of second to complete the disconnect, else you'll reconnect on your second button press.

    Now to find a way to easily lock the Palm and my conversion from my Kyocera 6035/SwitchHack/AppDA Launcher setup will be complete...

    Regards,
    Ian
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    Folks,

    If you are on Sprint, there is no reason you care about being connected. You have unlimited data, and the grey arrows indicate a "dormant" connection. The radio is not active, and you are not loosing any battery.

    If you are a GSM user, pretty much the same rules apply. If an app on your phone needs to use the data connection, you are using up bytes and battery (not minutes). If you are charged by the byte, you need to wory about it.

    Having said all of this, if you are a hard core Sprint data user, you may be using Sprint Business Connection (or Seven) and PDANet. In this case, you may have a problem where shutting down your phone side, disconnecting the network, or connecting PDANet takes forever. This is because of changes that Sprint made in the 1.20 firmware release.

    Shutting down the phone or trying to use your laptop via PDANet may take up to two minutes to "disconnect". This sucks. In addition, there is a problem where PDANet, after waiting the two minutes to dosconnect the TREO from Sprint may fail to make a connection to your laptop, and likely will leave your laptop messed up and requiring a hard reset (it can't shut down or respond because the PDANet connection was not "cleaned up" properly).

    The best solution to this problem is to launch PDANet without it being connected to your laptop, and then once the PDA session is disconnected (up to 2 minutes), plug in your cable and reconnect PDANet.

    Glenn
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    I dont know if its already been posted but I have the same long delay when trying to dissconnect from the web, ever since the 1.12 update. The only way around it that I have found is to use a mail app(I use snapper) and have it set up to disconnect after checking your mail.

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