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  1. #81  
    WWW vs. HTTP...

    Not sure what you mean here. Do you really mean what's the difference between http and https?
  2. #82  
    hell if I know!
    I don't even know the right question to ask!
    I guess I'm talking about what this webview can and cannot access. What's the http(s?) that we can't get yet?
  3. #83  
    Originally posted by ksmith80209
    Also - I tried logging into my mail via web access, but since the webviewer can't do https, no luck there...
    I used a personal mail account for which the web access isn't using https but non-secure http.

    Here's another workaround: post the URL in the Test forum on TreoCentral! Then click the link and bookmark it.
  4. #84  
    Originally posted by ido
    hell if I know!
    I don't even know the right question to ask!
    I guess I'm talking about what this webview can and cannot access. What's the http(s?) that we can't get yet?
    In simple non-techy terms:

    www is the first part of most commonly used web site addresses, like in www.treocentral.com. doesn't make any difference for WebViewer

    http is a protocol (communication method if you like) that your browser and the internet site use to communicate with each other. if you look in your Internet Explorer address bar you will see that the address is usually prefixed with http://, to tell the browser that this is the protocol that is should use to communicate with the web site, like in http://www.treocentral.com

    https is the secured version of http. Basically, it encrypts the data stream between your browser and the web site so that other people can't access it (assuming somebody would try to read the data that is sent between your browser and the web site).

    https is commonly used as the protocol for pages where you submit credit card information, and for lots of mail servers with web access.

    Currently WebViewer doesn't support https.
  5. #85  
    okay, I think I got that.
    I've got lots more questions, but I don't want to bore the viewers of this thread.
    Thanks!
  6. #86  
    Oh and another thing is that Webviewer cannot access wap sites. It is really not that important to me with the fast speed, but it might for some people.

    Also shoutcast station buttons does not work in webviewer. In blazer, you could click one of the button and it will ask if you want to open it. Once you click yes, it will take you back to appl page and you and start p-tunes. Webviewer gives an error message if you click one of the buttons.
  7. #87  
    After 20 minutes of successful use of Webviewer on the Treo 600, my device did an unusual reset where the Palm logo appeared and never went away. This reset was not like soft reset loops in the past where the device continuously reset. In this case the Palm logo appeared and just froze. I tried manually resetting using the pin, then did a warm reset, and finally resorted to a hard reset.

    After the hard reset I fully reinstalled a memory card backup made prior to installing to Java and Webviewer (God bless CardBackup software and San Disk!!!). The device worked again. My world returned to normal. Then I felt brave and decided to restore from a backup made after I installed java and webviewer just to see if the problem was a fluke. Immediately afterwards the device went into the "forever" reset Palm logo mode described above. I am in the process of reverting back to the older backup as I write this from my desktop.

    Also, it's worth pointing out to others that, while Reqwireless Webviewer is fast like "sh*t off a shovel," it also looks like you know what flying off the shovel. The font comes through looking very weird, the five way navigational pad works opposite the way you expect it to after getting used to Blazer, there is no scroll bar, and there are loads of webpages not accessible (such as MyYahoo!). Even if the java webviewer hadn't forced me to hard reset twice, I think I would advise folks to avoid it.
  8. #88  
    Originally posted by rosenft
    After 20 minutes of successful use of Webviewer on the Treo 600, my device did an unusual reset where the Palm logo appeared and never went away. This reset was not like soft reset loops in the past where the device continuously reset. In this case the Palm logo appeared and just froze. I tried manually resetting using the pin, then did a warm reset, and finally resorted to a hard reset.

    After the hard reset I fully reinstalled a memory card backup made prior to installing to Java and Webviewer (God bless CardBackup software and San Disk!!!). The device worked again. My world returned to normal. Then I felt brave and decided to restore from a backup made after I installed java and webviewer just to see if the problem was a fluke. Immediately afterwards the device went into the "forever" reset Palm logo mode described above. I am in the process of reverting back to the older backup as I write this from my desktop.

    Also, it's worth pointing out to others that, while Reqwireless Webviewer is fast like "sh*t off a shovel," it also looks like you know what flying off the shovel. The font comes through looking very weird, the five way navigational pad works opposite the way you expect it to after getting used to Blazer, there is no scroll bar, and there are loads of webpages not accessible (such as MyYahoo!). Even if the java webviewer hadn't forced me to hard reset twice, I think I would advise folks to avoid it.
    I'm almost 100% the stability and restore issues are due to the beta JVM we're using. Somehow the files generated by the JVM (the J9 files with the long numbers) aren't properly backed up. See my post earlier today about restoring after a reset.

    IMHO, the speed is making up for most of the current issues. But yes, I do hope that the developers will release a Treo 600 version fairly soon which isn't unlikely given the interest that the company has already shown earlier in this thread.
  9. #89  
    Earlier today I did some testing with a beta version of Webviewer. This test webviewer version is working flawlessly with https sites. I used it to pay my credit card bill .

    It seems that the Reqwireless team is working aggressively to fix Treo600 issues. I assisted in the HTTPS portion of the testing. I bet you'll see many of the issues you guys have mentioned resolved in the next release. HTTPS issue is already resolved!

    Nate.
  10. #90  
    Originally posted by rosenft
    After 20 minutes of successful use of Webviewer on the Treo 600, my device did an unusual reset where the Palm logo appeared and never went away. This reset was not like soft reset loops in the past where the device continuously reset. In this case the Palm logo appeared and just froze. I tried manually resetting using the pin, then did a warm reset, and finally resorted to a hard reset.

    After the hard reset I fully reinstalled a memory card backup made prior to installing to Java and Webviewer (God bless CardBackup software and San Disk!!!). The device worked again. My world returned to normal. Then I felt brave and decided to restore from a backup made after I installed java and webviewer just to see if the problem was a fluke. Immediately afterwards the device went into the "forever" reset Palm logo mode described above. I am in the process of reverting back to the older backup as I write this from my desktop.

    Also, it's worth pointing out to others that, while Reqwireless Webviewer is fast like "sh*t off a shovel," it also looks like you know what flying off the shovel. The font comes through looking very weird, the five way navigational pad works opposite the way you expect it to after getting used to Blazer, there is no scroll bar, and there are loads of webpages not accessible (such as MyYahoo!). Even if the java webviewer hadn't forced me to hard reset twice, I think I would advise folks to avoid it.
    I've had this same problem with Pocket Tunes. Only happened once, where the Palm logo would not disappear after soft reset and was forced to do hard reset. I still used Pocket Tunes and haven't seen the problem since. I suspect that this is more of a Treo600 issue, rather than Webviewer. I think if you do some research, you'll find that others have had this problem with various applications. I suspect you've encountered just the right combination of used memory and installed applications to trigger the problem. I increased the amount of free memory after my hard reset incident and haven't seen the problem since.

    I've been using Webviewer heavily over the last few days and haven't encountered the problem, but even if I do, the speed is worth it to me. The Blazer browser is slow enough that it just isn't practical for me. If I want to check my Evite for party info or get driving directions from mapquest, I don't want to wait 3 minutes plus for a large web page to load. Webviewer does it in 30 seconds or less, and I can start viewing the text in 5-10secs, while graphics continue to load. Webviewer makes web browsing convenient enough on the Treo600 that I don't need to use my desktop for general web browsing.

    MyYahoo works just fine on my test version of webviewer. You might try deleting the associated cookie to get it working. I've found that if upon submitting logon info and the same login page re-appears, I just need to delete the cookie and the issue is resolved.

    You mention the text quality... If I can read it, I could give a rats ***. The scroll bar... Why do I want that taking up my precious screen area. The navigation pad... Took me 5 seconds to adjust to that. When I browse, I want information (text and pictures) and I want it fast. Yes, there's room for improvement in Webviewer, but it's by far the best solution for quick web access.

    I have no affiliation with Reqwireless, other than being a new customer and free beta tester.

    Nate
  11. #91  
    Accidental double post
    Last edited by nswenson; 02/18/2004 at 04:30 PM.
  12. #92  
    The new beta is indeed excellent - the ability to use sites like MyYahoo is a distinct improvement.

    I'd urge everyone to buy this program - definitely worth it, and I almost never spend money on 3rd party apps.
  13. #93  
    Originally posted by Bujin
    The new beta is indeed excellent - the ability to use sites like MyYahoo is a distinct improvement.

    I'd urge everyone to buy this program - definitely worth it, and I almost never spend money on 3rd party apps.
    I assume you have the beta directly from ReqWireless and it is not available to the public yet?

    Thanks,
    --Mathew
  14. #94  
    Originally posted by mathewlu


    I assume you have the beta directly from ReqWireless and it is not available to the public yet?

    Thanks,
    --Mathew
    This is true; however, given the speed in which they've worked on this, I have a feeling it'll be out soon.
  15. #95  
    Originally posted by Bujin


    This is true; however, given the speed in which they've worked on this, I have a feeling it'll be out soon.
    Hello again from Reqwireless. Thanks to everyone here for your interest in WebViewer, and helpful reports on its Treo 600 performance.

    We're making public a new PRC which hopefully resolves the HTTPS issue. We invite any interested users to obtain it from:
    http://www.reqwireless.com/test/treo600/WebViewer.prc

    Kindly send any feedback to support@reqwireless.com. We're still looking into the bookmarks issue, and will report.

    Cheers,
    The Reqwireless engineering team
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    #96  
    Originally posted by Reqwireless

    We're making public a new PRC which hopefully resolves the HTTPS issue. We invite any interested users to obtain it from:
    http://www.reqwireless.com/test/treo600/WebViewer.prc
    Thanks for the quick turnaround on this!

    I should point out that installing the new version overwrote my bookmarks and settings and required me to exchange my old registration key for a new one at

    http://reqwireless.com/keyex.html
  17. #97  
    The HTTPS protocol is indeed working. Have to say I'm impressed with the response time on this fix. This is definitely my browser of choice for the Treo 600.

    Kudos to ReqWireless for a great browser.

    rgds,

    aolumide
    Last edited by aolumide; 02/19/2004 at 10:44 AM.
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    Thanks for the new revised version Roger, as a long time user of reqwireless applications i have always been impressed with this product and your support. I have spoken to you in the past when i hade issues with my sanyo. Well i tried the Webviewer 3.2.6 on my treo works great but still when i try to type an underscore _ using the alt button on the treo it will immediately exit me out of the app. If there is a work around that you or any of the other treocentral webviewer users please let me know. I have not been able to check my emails because my adress has an underscore. Thank you
  19. #99  
    A newbie question:

    I just installed JAVA and the WebViewer software; they seem to be work OK. I noticed that the JAVA uses around 1.5 Megs of internal memory; can this program be run from an expansion card? Also it appears to be a hidden set of files (I can see them using GentleManager), how would you move them.
  20. #100  
    I just got a response from reqwireless about the bug that causes an exit from the application when the ALT key is pressed. They said that it was an issue with Palm's Java implemention and that is might be fixed with a new Java SDK release. In other words - don't count on it being fixed by a reqwireless release.
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