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  1.    #1  
    Are they one in the same?

    How low can you get?
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    Put on your own advert like I did offering it for free with a note to go to Treocentral and search until you find it... it might take time but at least it is free...

    Pisses off the scumbag merchants... selling in London for 50 a shot... disgusting!
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    Originally posted by scudder
    Put on your own advert like I did offering it for free with a note to go to Treocentral and search until you find it... it might take time but at least it is free...

    Pisses off the scumbag merchants... selling in London for 50 a shot... disgusting!
    I've put up an advert that ends in 1 day so that it appears right above treorunner (aka the pig****er). Well worth the 30 cents.
  4. #4  
    Originally posted by Mol


    I've put up an advert that ends in 1 day so that it appears right above treorunner (aka the pig****er). Well worth the 30 cents.

    Frank, when in quicksand do you:

    a) Flail about wildly, attempting to attract more attention to yourself, but sink even deeper in the process.

    or

    b) Contact eBay and Palm directly, advising them of treorunner's illegal ad and let their lawyers deal with it aggressively.
  5. #5  
    Originally posted by The Chupacabra



    Frank,
    Frank? Is that addressed to me?
  6.    #6  
    OK now all we need is someone to sell the rights to this saga to a a) a book publisher b) a tv show
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    [erased for vulgar language]
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    b) Contact eBay and Palm directly, advising them of treorunner's illegal ad and let their lawyers deal with it aggressively


    why would this ad be illegal?

    Can you quote the exact law (and from what country)
    that makes it illegal?

    I still don't understand all this voodoo hype
    about the mysteries of unlocking a phone.
    The phone is owned solely by me. Not by palm. Not
    by handspring. Not by Sprint. If I wan't to unlock it, there is nothing that palm or my carrier can
    do legally to prevent me from doing so. Carrier locking
    is a dirty trick carriers use to take away the option of using
    your phone on someone elses network. Locking does not stop
    the consumer from cancelling his contract early (cancellation
    fees do that). If we "rented" phones from a carrier, this would be a different story!

    I understand that the carriers arent happy about unlocking, but who cares? Its a free market! If I opened a lemonade stand and the kid across the street opens one, therefore decreasing my revenues, I wouldn't be happy either. But it is not illegal.

    (edited to fix the "bolding" html)
    car_designer
    Visor Deluxe-->Treo 600-->650 cameraless-->700P-->755P cameraless conversion -->Treo 800W + Celio Redfly all on Sprint
    Parrot ck-3300 handsfree + BT GPS
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    I think you missed the point, the illegality has nothing to do with the unlocking. On that point I agree with you.

    What is illegal is that he is selling a derivative work of copyrighted code. Even worse, he is selling someone else's work.

    It's one thing to hack the OS and distribute the instructions on how to do it. It is another to modify one line of copyrighted code and then re-sell it.

    David
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    Look, I already explained this in another thread. No, I'm not really selling this stuff, I put the ads to see if it would attract buyers and or be noticed. Everyone who contacted me was told it was free on the web.

    Some folks have gotten really exercised about this. Whatever. If I really wanted to do this, I would have gotten new screen names for ebay, this forum, etc. It takes 20 seconds to put an ad on ebay, 20 sec. to take it off.

    We all have better things to do than keep feeding into this.

    Oh, and sorry some of you thought I was doing horrible things with the files. But I'll tell you this, if everyone is so concerned, they should have an issue with whomever cracked it and gsmlocker - they are the ones really selling it.

    I actually got an email from a guy who said he was getting a digital certificate of authenticity for his 150.00. I assumed this is from gsmlocker.

    I'll be glad to forward it to anyone who wants it, by the way.

    Anyway, fear not, the free stuff is still free, at least from me.

    I am surprised at the witch hunt mentality, however. It is beginning to feel like the treocentral inquisition.
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    Originally posted by treorunner
    Look, I already explained this in another thread. No, I'm not really selling this stuff, I put the ads to see if it would attract buyers and or be noticed.
    I think I heard a line similar to that on an episode of Cops when a dude got busted soliciting prostitution.
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    Damn, I didn't think anyone saw that one....
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    car_designer, be careful, they are about to pounce on you...
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    also, using that logic about referring to the "derivative of copywritten code", are you kidding, with that stuff posted everywhere, they think that just because I put up BS ebay listing, and they give it away, they think there is a difference.

    Tell that to the two car thiefs, one who steals it and resells it, the other steals it and gives it away. I guess the one who sells it gets the chair, and the one who gives it away gets to go home?

    Give me a break. I should have really tried to sell the stupid file.
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    car_designer is correct. With the logic all you defenders of code are using, the next redneck that modifies his sedan into a street rod is looking at indefinite incarceration at Guantanamo.
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    Originally posted by treorunner
    also, using that logic about referring to the "derivative of copywritten code", are you kidding, with that stuff posted everywhere, they think that just because I put up BS ebay listing, and they give it away, they think there is a difference.

    Tell that to the two car thiefs, one who steals it and resells it, the other steals it and gives it away. I guess the one who sells it gets the chair, and the one who gives it away gets to go home?

    Give me a break. I should have really tried to sell the stupid file.

    Remember when you originally signed up for eBay a few years ago and had to give them REAL contact info? Guess what? There was a reason for that. Sucker.

    The stench of fear is all over you, treorunner. Better sell as many of F. Mol's cracks as you can - you'll probably be needing the money soon. I love seeing people like you get what they deserve.

    Once Palm's lawyers are done having their way with you, you probably won't be able to sit down for WEEKS.
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    let me clear some things up...

    my comments only addressed the foolish idea that unlocking
    in itself, is illegal or morally wrong. The idea that the method/file for unlocking
    could be a copywritten, and therefore illegal to sell is something that I have not thought about and should be treated as a seperate issue.

    If you sell without permission a copywritten work, it is protected and illegal to do so in the U.S. (and also morally wrong IMHO). If you resell someones elses uncopywritten work, without their permission, it would probably not be illegal, but sure is morally wrong (IMHO).


    Tell that to the two car thiefs, one who steals it and resells it, the other steals it and gives it away. I guess the one who sells it gets the chair, and the one who gives it away gets to go home?
    I fail to see the difference. They are both thiefs, they both deserve "the chair" because they both stole.

    If you sold a unlock service, or an unlock app/method that did
    not infringe on ones copywritten work, I think you would be in the clear.

    Have a super day
    car_designer
    Visor Deluxe-->Treo 600-->650 cameraless-->700P-->755P cameraless conversion -->Treo 800W + Celio Redfly all on Sprint
    Parrot ck-3300 handsfree + BT GPS
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    ok, I'm lost... Why is everyone beginning to turn on each other? This is just a forum where we get together and write things about our fancy cell phone.

    Please do not take all the fun out of what we are doing here.
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    You sound like a snitch, smell like one, ebay does nothing besides taking the item off the system, the treo home office (dont want to mention names or i'll be sued)is not going to spend million's in lawyers when they are trying to recover from their insvestment besides what are they going to get from treorunner if he declares himself in bankruptcy.

    Chupa, you know what they do with snitches in prison, hey watch your back specially bellow your waist.
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    Chupaloopa is having to much fun with this to see the facts, don't waste your time.

    car_designer..your reply was my point exactly. There is no difference. The same guys who are crying about all this are the same guys giving it away (the patch). Everyone is dicking with files to make palm better. Isn't that the idea?

    Chupa and the rest need to relax, they know I never sold this to anyone, they can read my posts.

    Bottomline, Chupa is mad because if was slamming him for his high and mightly crap earlier in other posts. He keeps hanging on to this because I embarrased him.

    And Oh yeah Chupa, PalmOne is 'acomin. And I'm a runnin. You sound so, well I guess young and inexperienced. You and your French buddy Mol need to go work on some other socialist agenda. Chupa, the only one living in fear is you as you believe we are all being monitored by Palm and ebay. What an ***.

    And thanks for the support to the rest of you all.
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