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    #441  
    Tmobile
    76kbps
    Alhambra, CA
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  2. #442  
    Sprint 650
    626 area code (Los Angeles County)

    114kbit/sec
    1.611s latency
    15.596s d/l time
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  3. #443  
    Cingular Blue 650
    Atlanta (Sandy Springs)

    85kbit/sec
    2.162s latency
    20.983s d/l time

    Then I switched SIM to my 600

    38kbit/sec
    1.99s latency
    43.549s d/l time
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  4. #444  
    T-Mo
    Unlocked 650 GSM
    Arlington, VA
    38kb/sec
  5. #445  
    Cingular 650 NYC

    Xiino - 200k test

    ranges from

    375kbit/sec
    3.215s latency
    7.691s d/l time

    to

    237 kbit/sec
    4.326s latency
    10.088s dl/ time.
  6. #446  
    That 375KBPS is impressive, and approaches the upperlimit of EDGE capabilities.
  7. #447  
    This is from ATT's EDGE information:
    Fastest National Wireless Data Network
    Our EDGE network delivers speeds nearly twice as fast as any other national wireless data network.

    Average download speeds of 100-130 kilobits per second (Kbps)

    Burst speeds up to 200 Kbps

    More than three times the speed of GPRS

    Nearly twice the speed of CDMA 1xRTT
    http://attwireless.com/midtolarge/so...ork/edge.jhtml

    so I don't understand how 375-237 kbits/sec is achieved, that's outside of the range
  8. #448  
    yea I dunno, I can tell you thought that blazer is always a lot slower.

    right now Xiino did 374kbit/s

    and blazer did 81kbit/s

    and its not like the results are wrong, I physically see that Xiino takes about 3-4 secs + the 3 secs latency to download the file. And yes I am clearing cache every time.

    Real world test are fast too in Xiino, amazon.com loads completely in 25 secs

    oh and I should be on the ATT network since the Cingular network here is shared with t-mobile and does not have edge
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    #449  
    San Diego, CA
    Cingular EDGE/GPRS
    Cingular branded 650, F/W 1.04, unlocked

    Size: 200K File
    Speed: 100.8 KBPS
    Time: approx 11 seconds
  10. #450  
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyH
    That 375KBPS is impressive, and approaches the upperlimit of EDGE capabilities.
    That is BEYOND the upper limits of EDGE - we are only talking about a 4 slot (downlink) device here. Xiino must have something else going on that makes it faster. The phone's data connection is simply not capable of going that fast. Maybe some kind of compresion would allow such speeds, I don't know how they do it, and I am not saying I doubt the results, I just know a class 10 EDGE device can not transfer data that fast.

    Anyone know anything about Xiino, and why it would be so fast?
    Treo 650 GSM
  11. #451  
    Quote Originally Posted by helpermonkey
    Anyone know anything about Xiino, and why it would be so fast?
    Correct me if i'm wrong, but Xiino is a proxy browser which means the flow of data goes: Internet -> Xiino Server -> Treo Xiino. So the speed test is measuring the Xiino Server speed, not the Treo speed...

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    yea but if it used a server that information has to get to the treo wirelessly, so the connection to the Xiino server would still be the connection to the internet right?

    I'm really interested to know how the combo of Xiino and this phone are able to break the speed barrier I mean I have downloaded whole files like mp3's to the SD card and it has been fast also.
  13. #453  
    The only thing I can think of is compression.
    Treo 650 GSM
  14. #454  
    AT&T in San Jose, CA

    File size: 200k

    Try #1

    speed: 136kbit/sec
    latency: 3.464s
    d/l time: 13.73s

    Try #2

    speed: 141kbit/sec
    latency: 2.263s
    d/l time: 13.206s
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  15. #455  
    Any Sprint users try Xiino with this test? I'm consistently getting between 430 & 530 kb/s. This doesn't seem possible.
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    #456  
    I am pretty sure that website shows kiloBITS not bytes.
  17. #457  
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    Any Sprint users try Xiino with this test? I'm consistently getting between 430 & 530 kb/s. This doesn't seem possible.
    You can not run a speed test with Xiino.
    Xiino is a proxy based web browser. All pages are downloaded to a proxy via high speed internet, reduces the image sizes, then downloads the reduced size images to the Treo browser. That's why it seems so darn fast.
    Blazer, however, downloads everything directly to the device at full size, then uses the internal process to re-format the pages and images.
    Speed testing with Xiino is effectively cheating because you're downloading less data than the speed test is measuring.

    You must use blazer. The one problem with blazer is that since it taxes the process so hard it actually will pause downloading ocassionally. Since the speed test doesn't actually have much to the page, this impact is minimal.
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  18. #458  
    I see...no wonder the results were so skewed. Thanks for the heads up. What is xiino's proxy? Could we use it in Blazer?

    I actually meant bits...not bytes thanks for clarifying, though.
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  19. #459  
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    I see...no wonder the results were so skewed. Thanks for the heads up. What is xiino proxy? Could we use it in Blazer?
    pds.moribus.com and no, I don't think it works with Blazer though I admit I've never tried. I think it's very specialized to work only with Xiino and maybe not even a standard proxy. I really don't know.
    You can see this setting on page the of the prefs in the Xiino application. It's refered to as a "Data Server."

    FYI, there is one other proxy based web browser that works on Treo.
    http://www.reqwireless.com/
    It's called WebViewer and is actually a Java web browser that works on any java enabled phone (but there is a Treo .PRC customized version.)
    The catch is that you need to have the IBM Java VM from palm insalled to run it. Also since the UI is Java it leaves something to be desired, but it's otherwise a very fast and very good browser. It actually does Javascript much better than Xiino and therefore works on more sites.
    Treo 750 (AT&T)
    Treo600->Treo650->Cing8525->Blackberry 8700c->Treo750->AT&T Tilt->Treo750->iPhone 3G
  20. #460  
    treo 700p
    cdma sprint
    Ny, Ny
    200k file
    370 kbit/sec

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