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    Hi,


    I have read numerous times in this forum people talking of soft and hard resets.

    Can you please explain clearly what they are, how you do them and in which circonstancies you may / have to use each of them?

    Thanks
    Dominique
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    soft reset -works just like the reset button on your PC.
    Treo will reboot but all your information will be preserved.
    (achieved by pressing reset button on the back of your treo by inserting long pin or needle in to the hole and pushing the microswitch hidden there)


    hard reset - is like formating your harddrive and installing a fresh copy of windows - you will loose all your settings , programs and data that your installed - your treo will be the same as when you first opened it. After doing it you will have to restore everything by either syncing or reinstalling everything manualy
    (achieved by pressing reset button on the back of your treo by inserting long pin or needle in to the hole and pushing the microswitch hidden there and simultaniously holding the "power" button - release reset button then power button - treo will ask you if you are sure - answering yes will "format your harddrive")

    softreset without startup files - same as regular soft reset, but without starting your hacks and other software that runs on startup(treo tools, jackflash, etc - if you installed something and it asked you to reset then it placed itself in to "startup folder" and will automaticaly start with every reset) - this is like starting your computer in safe mode.

    this is particulaly usefull if you installed something (like jackflash) and it reseted your treo and didn't came back hanging during the reset.

    (achieved by pressing reset button on the back of your treo by inserting long pin or needle in to the hole and pushing the microswitch hidden there and simultaniously holding the "UP" button - release reset button then "up" button - it shoud end up in phone aplication)
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    let me throw something out here. EVERYONE should buy an SD card and Backupman or its equivilent. You can go on ebay and buy a 32 card for nothing and Backupman is $10. I experienced several hard resets last week and as a result I got a card, backupman, and help from Millerhifi and now have backup with me at all times. 32 is plenty for you basic necessities. If you are a real 'user' you probably already have backup on a 256. It's simple and great for peace of mind to travel with your backup card.
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    Originally posted by dbouchon
    Hi,


    I have read numerous times in this forum people talking of soft and hard resets.

    Can you please explain clearly what they are, how you do them and in which circonstancies you may / have to use each of them?

    Thanks
    Here is a tutorial that I picked up awhile back and have kept as a reference:

    Soft Reset
    A soft reset tells your handheld to stop what it's doing and start over again. All records and entries stored in your handheld are retained with a soft reset. After a soft reset, the Welcome screen appears, followed by the General Preferences screen.

    Use the reset tip tool (see below), or the tip of an unfolded paper clip (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.

    Reset Tip Tool: On most PalmOS handhelds, the stylus that comes with your handheld has a reset tip inside. To use it, unscrew the barrel from the stylus quill.

    Double-Soft Reset
    If your device doesn't seem to want to power up after a soft reset, and you've checked the other obvious solutions (fresh batteries, power button, contrast wheel, contrast button) you may want to try the 'Double-Soft Reset'. Simply perform a soft reset as directed above, but press the reset button twice in quick succession.


    Warm Reset
    A warm reset bypasses any system extensions (such as HackMaster hacks, OS patches, Alarm settings, etc) that are loaded on your handheld. Sometimes a damaged third-party application will try to respond to a reset but will fail and cause the handheld to 'hang'. Using a warm reset, you can start the handheld, then delete the damaged application before it has a chance to try to run again. After deleting the application, follow with a soft reset to start up the handheld normally.

    To perform a warm reset:

    Press and hold the upper half of the scroll button on your handheld.
    Using the reset tip tool (or a similar object without a sharp tip), gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.
    When the Palm Computing Platform logo appears on the screen, release the scroll button.


    If you're not sure which application is damaged, you can use a tool like ResetEmu in conjunction with a warm reset to help pinpoint the offending application.

    Hard reset:
    A Hard reset deletes all applications and databases in RAM. It then recreates the default (empty) standard databases belonging to the applications in ROM. The PDA is left as it was when you bought it.

    How to perform a Hard Reset:
    1.Hold down the power power button on the front panel of your handheld.
    2.While holding down the power button, use the reset tip of your stylus or an unfolded paperclip, to gently press and release the reset button.
    3. Wait for the Palm logo to appear and release the power button.
    4. When a message appears warning that you are about to erase all data stored on your handheld, press the upper scroll button (or whatever the corresponding equivelant is) to complete the hard reset.

    You should be able to restore everything by doing a Hotsync. So do this first.


    Extended Hard Reset

    An Extended Hard Reset will completely erase your handheld, and will also bypass the creation of some default databases.

    This differs from a normal hard reset, which will automatically create the databases for the built-in applications, and will insert some specimen records into those databases: numbers for Accessories and Technical Support will be created in your Address database, a registration reminder will be created in your ToDo database, and several helpful memos will be created in your Memo database.

    In addition, a normal hard reset will also create a Network database with some default Network profiles for your Network panel in Prefs, and a file of several default MIDI alarm sounds will be created.

    If you have the Notepad application, a normal hard reset ensures a sample note will appear on your NotePad, and if you have the Mail application, an email message from 'Mail Help' will be automatically inserted in your handheld Inbox.

    An Extended Hard Reset will ensure that all of these startup files are not created.

    If you decide to perform an Extended Hard Reset and install one or more third-party applications that expect to see the built-in databases present, you may encounter an error. For this reason, it's suggested that after an Extended Hard Reset, you run each of the built-in applications (Datebook, Address, ToDo, Memo, and if installed, NotePad and Mail) at least once to ensure empty built-in databases are created.

    After an Extended Hard Reset, you will not be able to select alternate alarm sounds for Datebook alarms, but the default alarm sound will still be heard for appointments with alarms set.

    To perform an Extended Hard Reset:

    Hold down the power button on the front panel of the handheld.
    While holding down the power button, use the reset tip tool (or similar object without a sharp tip), to gently press the reset button inside the hole on the back panel of your handheld.
    Release the reset button.
    When the logo screen appears on the screen, release the power button.
    When the message appears on the handheld screen warning that you are about to erase all the data stored on your handheld, press and hold the upper half of the scroll button on the front panel of the handheld.
    While still holding down the scroll button, press, in any order, the Datebook button, the Address button, the ToDo button, and the Note/Memo button.
    Release the scroll button, to to complete the hard reset and display the Digitizer screen.

    Pressing some but not all the buttons while holding the scroll key will result in a normal soft reset. Pressing no buttons while holding the scroll key will result in a normal hard reset.
    No good deed goes unpunished
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    how is the extended hard reset done on a treo?
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    Probably worth mentioning the factory reset...

    hold down the "k" and backspace keys while simultaneously pushing the reset microswitch. This will reset the Treo to factory settings and will completely drain the battery. Useful when you're frustrated as hell because nothing else seems to be working, but you are too drunk to drive to the SPCS store to exchange your Treo for a new one .
    Last edited by sdouglaslt; 08/19/2004 at 07:52 AM.

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