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    Can someone recommend the best email service that interfaces well with corporate email systems with firewalls?
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    Sprint BizConn, in my experience. Personal Edition if you're just using it yourself, Enterprise Edition if your company's running it. I used PE before my company moved to EE -- it's been very solid and reliable....
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    BaseJet (http://www.basejet.com). It's way better than the BC/PE IMHO (Unless access to files is paramount).
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    kkenna: Last time we inquired about an enterprise version of Basejet, they said it was "under development". Do you know if that has changed? Or do they still only have the personal / desktop version? Thanks
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    I have been using Sprint BizConn for a while now and it works well. I access my server based Outlook mail at work and my yahoo and cable modem provider pop3 mail as well. I like the functionality but I have two problems:

    1: Only support 3 email accounts
    2: Can't access hotmail (at least I don't know how)
    3: Does a very poor job of attachement handling (this is big for me)
    4: Can access or update my calander

    I've looked at several of the other server based email offers and basejet seem to be the front runner for me.

    A: I know it can handle messages with attachments, but can I view them? Will is support 3rd party apps that do allow viewing?

    B: When I delete messages on my Treo, will the be deleted on the server as well?

    Any other input or suggestions would be great.

    Thanks!

    J.D.
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    Assuming your company supports this (i.e. will configure a box and pay for the server software), my recommendation would be to check out GoodLink from Good (www.good.com). We've been using it for a while now, and it's great. Very real time, everything syncs right away.
    It costs about $300 per user per year, minimum five users. No other costs. They used to charge a big up-front fee, but no more. You'll probably want to dedicate a cheap server to it, but our IT guy says the load is really light so far (with our first three users).
    The only drawback I've seen so far is that I'd like more WYSIWYG on the attachment viewing. They are in process of integrating Dataviz's Docs2Go (supposed to be out "end of Q1") which will fix that nicely.
    My personal opinion (which I'm sure that many people on the board would disagree with) is that the Treo is only worth the extra weight if you have real-time corporate email access and really depend on email. For me, that's the situation. Very nice!
    John
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    Originally posted by jbeans

    It costs about $300 per user per year, minimum five users. No other costs. They used to charge a big up-front fee, but no more. You'll probably want to dedicate a cheap server to it, but our IT guy says the load is really light so far (with our first three users).
    The only drawback I've seen so far is that I'd like more WYSIWYG on the attachment viewing. They are in process of integrating Dataviz's Docs2Go (supposed to be out "end of Q1") which will fix that nicely.
    hmm....

    GoodLink = $1500 for 5 users per year

    Basejet = $225 for 5 users per year or rather, $135 since only 3 users so far - for $1500, you can get 33 users on Basejet

    I'll stick with Basejet
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    I just loaded the Basejet demo today. I got it running with Corp. Outlook but I'm still trying to get my Yahoo, Hotmail and pop2 mail to work.

    I can't do the Corp. IT supported route, never happen.

    With Basejet:
    1: Need better attachement support. You can view, but I would much rather have the features and presentation of the 3rd party aps.
    2: Can't seem to find contact and calander functions. When they describe that support, do they just mean the abilty to accept appointments and add contacts from inbound emails?

    Thanks for you help.

    J.D.
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    basejet and Good are really different products. They both do e-mail, but that's about where it stops for BaseJet. Good is more along the lines of RIM's Blackberry service, whereas BaseJet really isn't.

    That's why you don't see robust support of contact and calendar functions in BaseJet - it's mainly just e-mail, which for many folks is just fine.
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    Originally posted by nrosser
    basejet and Good are really different products. They both do e-mail, but that's about where it stops for BaseJet. Good is more along the lines of RIM's Blackberry service, whereas BaseJet really isn't.

    That's why you don't see robust support of contact and calendar functions in BaseJet - it's mainly just e-mail, which for many folks is just fine.
    Ditto. GoodLink is real-time, sync'ed email, contacts, calendar. If someone enters a new employee in your Exchange Global Directory, it's on your phone. Send an email from your phone, it's in your Sent folder on your desktop. If someone sends you an email invite to a meeting, the invitation shows up in your phone calendar right away. Fundamentally different from "being able to access email from your phone." In this case, your phone behaves just like your computer at work -- although hopefully your computer at work has a bigger screen... ;-)
    If you're on your own or just (or mostly) POP3, it's not for you. But if you're a corporate user that depends on Exchange email, it's a great solution.
    John
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    Goodlink does require a IT support server application, correct?

    J.D.
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    Originally posted by nrosser
    basejet and Good are really different products. They both do e-mail, but that's about where it stops for BaseJet. Good is more along the lines of RIM's Blackberry service, whereas BaseJet really isn't.

    That's why you don't see robust support of contact and calendar functions in BaseJet - it's mainly just e-mail, which for many folks is just fine.
    Newbie QuestionS:

    1. My understanding is that BaseJet is not real time. But can you send and receive email using Basejet? I downloaded the demo version and it sync'd with my Corporate Outlook OK (while connected to the corporate network via VPN), but I don't want to wait until I do a sync to get my email. Do I need a dedicated "always on" computer in my office for this to work?

    2. Is there ANY way to get close to real time email on my Treo 600 without Corporate support and a dedicated always -on machine at my office?

    3. Anybody using Blazer to access The mobile version of Outlook Web Access? Do you need VPN for this?
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    Originally posted by mera308
    Goodlink does require a IT support server application, correct?

    J.D.
    Yep. And the GoodLink server software needs it's own box. The GoodLink server constantly syncs your phone with your Exchange box. When I'm in my office working, quite often it's the soft ping on my phone that let's me know I just got an email on my computer. Sometimes the new email appears on my phone first.
    Not to belabor the point, but being able to periodically access email on your phone versus truly synced email, contacts, and calendar is like the difference between a VCR and TiVo -- hard to describe but quite compelling once you've got it. Once a salesguy sees that he can instantly react to email no matter where he is (in the car, wherever), the $300/year becomes a no-brainer.
    One tip -- do what I did: call Good and sign up for a free one-month trial (free server software, free phones). Give one to your IT guy in exchange for scrounging up a server and installing it on the network. Also get on for your head of sales. They'll help you pull it in.
    John
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    I have tried everything and I'm completely sold on Goodlink on the T600. There is no need to ever worry about synching your T600 because everything is always synched up in real time; email, all of your folders, tasks, calendar, phone book, etc.

    Once you have thrown away the cradle, you will never want to have a device that requires you to synch it up to something else. I think the home screen interface is the best as well. I used a Blackberry for a couple of years, and a Palm before that and the T-600 with Goodlink takes the best of both and adds a lot more.
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    Originally posted by hglatzer
    Can someone recommend the best email service that interfaces well with corporate email systems with firewalls?
    Try SEVEN. I don't know if their beta program is still open. I'm not at liberty to say much else PERSONALLY about the service, etc.

    SEVEN Personal Edition is a self-provisioned mobile email solution that provides individuals with real-time access to corporate data on the widest variety of mobile devices. Available via a simple web-based download, SEVEN Personal Edition gives users secure, always-on, over-the-air access to critical information such as Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes, and Internet/ISP email, PIM information, personal directories and documents.

    With SEVEN Personal Edition you are in complete control; there's no need to wait for your employer to deploy a company-wide mobile data solution.

    **Access to Corporate and Personal Data: View your email, calendar, contacts, corporate directories and documents

    **Corporate and personal email access, including Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Domino and Internet/ISP accounts

    **Sign yourself up; easy to install and manage your preferences

    **Works with J2ME*, Brew, and browser-enabled mobile phones; PalmOS, Pocket PC, Microsoft Smartphone 2003 and Symbian* smartphones; PalmOS and Pocket PC PDAs; and Internet-enabled PCs

    Here's the list of mobile operator providers that have a partnership with SEVEN.
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    Isn't BizConn basically a Sprint-specific version of SEVEN?
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    This is what I got from SEVEN:

    As a gift to you for your active participation in 2003, SEVEN is sending you a $25 supercertificate to giftcertificates.com.

    And as an added gift, I'll also get to stay with their **program** through the first half of 2004*! ...and when I was an avid Sidekick user I got z-i-l-c-h, hmmm, well I did get that cool Danger t-shirt.....having this Treo is paying off in some unexpected ways...soon (optimistically) I'll be able to use my Treo 600 on my company's email network to take advantage of the Blackberry PUSH technology being put together by PalmSource/RIM -- posted in another thread. Cool
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    Originally posted by John P. Smith
    Isn't BizConn basically a Sprint-specific version of SEVEN?
    Ummm, I don't know because I'm not using a Sprint Treo....
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