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    If this whole Verizon petition to carry the T600 doesn't work out, couldn't one just take Sprint T600 over to Verizon & activate it on their network? Especially after number portability becomes active?
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    I believe that it will have a Sprint-proprietary chip in it, or some such thing, that will prevent it from working on anybody else's network.

    Isn't that right guys?
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    I tried to do the opposite a while back by taking a MOT v60 from Verizon over the Sprint and they said it couldn't be done. I don't know if it is an actual chip that is different or it's firmware, but the phones are definitely not compatible across networks.

    Sorry!
    TL
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    no.
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    Ok miradu, why not? I thought the Treo 600 is dual band digital. And Verizon operates on one of those bands no? Verizon has also been touted as being pretty leniant in activating non Verizon phones...
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    The answer is YES you can. YES that is if Hand Spring will sell unlocked CDMA Treo 600. I called VzW and since this is a dual band CDMA phone they will activate it and you only need to goto a VzW store with technicians (read, not a mall store) that can download the correct phone software so it can use their EN and other features. This rests solely on Hand Spring.

    So I called HS and they said no release dates available on the T600 and Sprint should not be promoting a 10/1 or 10/7 date as HS has not officially launched it in the US. They added me to their email list of announcements and such.
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    why does it have to be unlocked? if i buy a treo600 from sprint and have service from then & then leave sprint and take the phone to verizon, won't they activate it? no unlocked...
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    That's the beauty of having a GSM phone...just get a SIM card and your're ready (usually).
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    no, being there is no chip to tie the phone into sprint. The trick is getting it onto verizon's network.
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    Originally posted by PalmMD
    The answer is YES you can. YES that is if Hand Spring will sell unlocked CDMA Treo 600. I called VzW and since this is a dual band CDMA phone they will activate it and you only need to goto a VzW store with technicians (read, not a mall store) that can download the correct phone software so it can use their EN and other features. This rests solely on Hand Spring.
    Technically speaking CDMA phones don't really have a "subscriber lock" like a GSM phones, so they can't really be "unlocked." It's true that the programming menus that you need to access can only be accessed if you have the MSL, but you will always need the MSL to get in there.

    In other words, you can't just get it "unlocked" and then have unrestricted access to the programming menus. You will always need to enter the MSL every time you need to reprogram it.

    So, you could say "you need to get the MSL" but it's sort of odd to say "you need to get it unlocked."

    Anyway, if you did manage to get the MSL, there is the possibility of using the Treo 600 on Verizon since it is a dual-band CDMA 800 MHz / CDMA 1900 MHz handset. The only other major cdma carrier in NA, Verizon, uses mostly the 800 MHz band. Thus the Treo 600 should work on their network. The only real question, however, is whether the data connectivity (1xrtt) will be compatible with Verizon. This has been the issue with other SprintPCS phones which have been ported to Verizon. Most of the time the voice works fine, but the data connectivity is not compatible...
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    I've gotten an msl code for many of my treo 300's. Tech support would give it to me over the phone whilst helping me to reprovision it or something. I would always write it down. Shouldn't be too hard to get the msl... but if I couldn't have data, I wouldn't leave sprint!!
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    I called HS today and they could not confirm the release date (again) but did indicate that they currently offer the ther Treos for direct purchase and indicated that it would be the same for T600.

    The purpose of my call was to say I wanted to buy one so I could put it on Verizon's network and I needed to get a phone from them so I could do this. So from VzW's side CS says no problem and from HS they are indicating no problem. If Sprint offered a better roaming plan I would consider switching but they don't at this point.
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    Originally posted by PalmMD
    I called HS today and they could not confirm the release date (again) but did indicate that they currently offer the ther Treos for direct purchase and indicated that it would be the same for T600.

    The purpose of my call was to say I wanted to buy one so I could put it on Verizon's network and I needed to get a phone from them so I could do this. So from VzW's side CS says no problem and from HS they are indicating no problem. If Sprint offered a better roaming plan I would consider switching but they don't at this point.
    Exactly! Verizon's digital network blows any other carrier's away. You could get a Sprint Treo600 form Sprint, activate on Verizon, and then roam on Srint's network from Verizon. The coverage should be pretty spotless. I would have to have fast data though...
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    Originally posted by treoneo


    Exactly! Verizon's digital network blows any other carrier's away. You could get a Sprint Treo600 form Sprint, activate on Verizon, and then roam on Srint's network from Verizon. The coverage should be pretty spotless. I would have to have fast data though...
    So, at some point I had read an ambiguous post suggesting that Sprint would not allow subscribers to use this phone on their Free and Clear America plan but I'm betting that this will change around, oh say Nov. 24. Like some on this board, I have a Verizon phone for voice and a Treo 300 for data. I'm beginning to think though that with the Sprint FCA plan, I could probably get away with this Treo 600 as my single device. I'd have the best of both worlds: cheap voice and data (Sprint) but with seemless coverage (roaming on Verizon up to 50% of my total used minutes per month).

    Oh, almost forgot...posting from my laptop connected to my Treo on the train traveling at 75 mph down the pacific coast. The wireless age has finally arrived.

    Regards...
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    I thought the sprint phones were somehow restricted via software. If I get one I will order directly from HS then goto Verizon (maybe Sprint). I already have an I700 that I am selling so I really don't want to extend my contract even further than I did when I got an I700.
    Last edited by PalmMD; 09/26/2003 at 11:41 AM.

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