1.  07/09/2003, 10:47 PM Many people are complaining about how big the Treo 600 is. The truth is that it is very small. When I played with a Treo 600 I could not get over how tiny and comfotable it was. Forget about measurements or weight...ask yourself if it looks too big...or if it looks just right. I you don't believe me look at this picture: http://mobile.burn.com/review.jsp?Page=5&Id=366 Jake Last edited by JakeE; 07/11/2003 at 07:31 PM. There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
2.  07/09/2003, 10:51 PM iPaq h1910 = 6.71 (4.46" x 2.75" x 0.50") 4.23 oz. iPaq 2200 = 8.3 (4.54" x 3.00" x 0.61") 5.1 oz. XDA = (5.8" x 2.90" x 0.70") treo 600 = (4.41" x 2.26" x 0.87") ~6 oz. TI Wanda = (4.63" x 2.93" x 0.79") 6.1 oz. SPVE100 = (4.73" x 1.97" x 0.91") 4.23 0z. The picture does not compare treo600 against other device.
3.  07/09/2003, 10:58 PM This may be splitting hairs, but some websites state the width of the 600 is 2.36 inches while say 2.26 inches. Hey, a tenth of an inch is a tenth of an inch. I measured the dimensions of a face on view of the 600 on my monitor. Using 4.41 inches as the length (which all sites agree upon) in my calculations, I extrapolated a value of 2.33 inches for the width, so I think 2.36 inches may be correct. Does anyone know?
4.  07/09/2003, 11:01 PM I may be wrong, Jake, but I'd venture to say that there's a substantial "silent majority" who's only complaint is that we have to wait until October to get a 600. Hurry up Handspring!
5.  07/09/2003, 11:05 PM Stickman: Excellent point...I agree. I can't wait!!! Chu Zoo & My Shadow: Forget about measurements for a second. Look at the photo and tell me if it looks too big...or just right???? That is the issue...how does it look? Jake Last edited by JakeE; 07/09/2003 at 11:11 PM. There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
6.  07/09/2003, 11:13 PM You're right, it does look svelt and easy to use single-handedly. It's very similar in thickness and width to my Kyocera 6035, but shorter and lighter. I like the candybar style which I can whip out of my bicycle jersey back pocket while riding and dial without fumbling with a flip lid or clamshell (like I can with my 6035). Can't wait to see one in person.
7.  07/09/2003, 11:21 PM Chu Zoo Take it a step further, how about whipping it out of your bicycle jersey back pocket while riding without fumbliling with a flip lid or clamshell and adding a to-do or an oppointment. There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
8.  07/09/2003, 11:28 PM Well, that may be a little tricky thumb typing with one thumb! But I suppose it could be done since you can navigate around the screen without the stylus. How easy is it to dial a phone number? I like dialing with hard keys versus on screen (which is why my Kyocera has served me well up until now). I think it is very clever how Handspring has imbedded a regular key pad within the keyboard.
9.  07/09/2003, 11:33 PM Chu Zoo It is really easy to dial on the hard thumboard keys. The Treo 600 hard keys are shaped like tic-tacs. The Treo 300 hard keys are shaped like mini chicklets. If you were trying to type using tic-tacs it is easier because you barely have to hit the key. With a chicklet flat key, you have to hit it just right and make sure you don't hit another key by mistake. Does this make sense? Jake There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
10.  07/09/2003, 11:45 PM If they are so great than why didn't handpsring do tictac keys for treo 300 and lower?
11.  07/10/2003, 12:15 AM purpleX Wow!!! A real question? I almost don't know what to do? I think that when Jeff Hawkins realized that Graffiti was bogus it must have traumatized him...after all, he invented it. I would imagine he got a hold of a Blackberry and said: Oh!?!? I know when my brother first showed me his Blackberry, I was impressed with the keyboard input method. I imagine the design of the original Treo was pretty difficult and I know it looks antiquated next to the Treo 600, but I think that there was probably a great deal of afterthought design that went into the 600. I imagine that by the time HS got the original Treo to market they realized its shortcomings. I imagine Jeff thought to himself; there has got to be a way to make it smaller and more phone like. I further imagine that through experimenting they figured out the benefit of convex keys. Jake There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
12.  07/10/2003, 12:25 AM Xerox is about to sue their *** off. It's hardly a pure moment of inspiration.
13.  07/10/2003, 12:26 AM I'm still very worried about the screen being all scratched up without a cover. I've had a visor deluxe, visor edge (which I bought for its strong aluminum casing) and the treo 300. All of em can get pretty scratched up in my pocket so I've always kept a cover on them... even when it's looked pretty ****ty with such a bugle in my pocket. Now all of a sudden the Treo 600 claims the screen to be remarkably scratch proof. Doesn't anyone find this a bit too good to be true? I know I know, its made out of some super-duper chemicals that not even superman can penitrate... but how bout a site not from handspring where the same material is demonstrated as being scratch proof? Then I'll feel more confident in getting a Treo 600.
14.  07/10/2003, 12:37 AM purpleX: I did not know about Xerox, but I think I remember hearing about how Blackberry did sue them and they won. CmdrGuard: Excellent point! I am curious also. Handspring told me they did extremely extensive durablility testing. I had a Palm V for a long time and I carried it everywhere and never scratched it? I guess time will tell There is a great difference between knowing and understanding. You can know a lot about something without understanding it. —Charles Kettering ------------------------------------------------- Treo 600: Love at First Sight by Jake Ehrlich Thoughts on the Future of Handheld Computing: A 5 Part Series by Jake Ehrlich
15.  07/10/2003, 01:01 AM Jake, Not having used a Treo before, when you dial from the keyboard, do you have to hold the shift or function key down, or does it somehow remain engaged until you finish dialing all the numbers?