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    I bought my Treo 300 tonight from Amazon before the deadline on the rebate. I currently use a Palm i705, not had it a year yet. This past week I received a certified letter from Palm notifying me palm.net will no longer offer an unlimited plan and will be charging per KB. Some of the owners of the i705 have said based on their current usage their monthly bills would be $300 and up. Insane for Palm to think they will keep loyal customers doing this. My plan changes Jan.22, I've already jumped ship. Expect more people to join on soon. I'm not sure how I will like using the Treo as a phone so I will keep my cell phone for the time being.
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    I think the more people that get the treo over another device are in for a shock. I was changing planes in Cincinatti just last night and noticed that the guy standing in line with me had a t-mobile pocket pc phone. He said he liked the MSN Messenger, email, web, and outlook sync capabilities on it. I then proceeded to demo verichat, treo300sms, snappermail, and even did a network hotsync and showed him how PalmVNC let's me look in on the 3 servers I manage... He says but how's battery life? I say I get around 3 hrs talk time... I can get by a whole day before recharging most days, and I am constantly on it. How much do you pay for data? $10/mo. What? I then showed him a plan guide (hey I work for sprintpcs so...) bottom line, he'll be calling me tomorrow to get more info about Sprint and the treo... For once I actually really love my job!
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    How does "network hotsync" work? Does this mean you can hotsync to your home pc (assuming its on with a persistant connection) while wireless on your treo 300?

    Im a newbie..and learning quick.
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    how do I get treo300SMS? Is there a site you could refer me to? thanks.
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    Originally posted by jazzman
    how do I get treo300SMS? Is there a site you could refer me to? thanks.
    http://pdaapps.com/TreoSmsApp/default.html
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    Treo300SMS is available at:

    http://www.pdaapps.com/

    - Rich
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    thanks for the quick reply! I'll look forward to going on that site and installing that app.... regards from Charlotte.
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    Originally posted by jdoran
    How does "network hotsync" work? Does this mean you can hotsync to your home pc (assuming its on with a persistant connection) while wireless on your treo 300?

    Im a newbie..and learning quick.
    search the discussion for "wireless hotsync" and you should find what you need - that's how I got it!
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    Originally posted by Tonya
    I'm not sure how I will like using the Treo as a phone so I will keep my cell phone for the time being.
    Please let us know Tonya when you get the Treo 300 up to speed, what your assessment of the strenths and weaknesses of the two devices is.
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    Originally posted by kayden75


    search the discussion for "wireless hotsync" and you should find what you need - that's how I got it!
    Only if I know this during the holidays when I experienced my first hard reset. No way to get info back until I returned home. Major bummer. I followed the directions and just performed a wireless hotsync at home. I will set it up in the office tomorrow where my computer is always on and has static ip.

    Wireless hotsync is very cool!

    Here are the directions again so you don't have to look for them.

    To set up your TREO to sync without cables or cradles read below.
    If you have a broadband/always on connection to the internet you will find remote hotsync a life saver. many times i have had to hard reset (press power and click the reset button on back of my treo, upon reboot let go of power, then choose to ERASE ALL MY DATA) just to recover from a phone crippling crash. i regained phone capabilities but lost all software,data, and phone logs. Thanks to Backup Buddy by Blue Nomad ( BACKUP BUDDY ) running on my PC, i logged on to the sprint pcs data network i was able to get all my information back with a network sync.

    ON YOUR COMPUTER (assumes a PC):

    1. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is set to run when your computer starts up.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) choose setup
    c) go to the tab marked GENERAL
    d) make sure a check mark appears before the words
    ' ALWAYS AVAILABLE (PUT IN STARTUP FOLDER)

    2. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is set to accept TCP/IP Network request to sync.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) make sure a check mark appears before the word network

    3. Make sure HOYSYNC MANAGER is setup on your network.

    a) to do this click on hotsync manager icon near time
    b) choose setup
    c) go to the tab marked NETWORK
    d) make sure a check mark appears before the user who
    wants to sync over the internet.
    e) click on the button marked 'TCP/IP SETTINGS...'
    f) To speed syncing enter your computers subnet mask if
    known. ( TIP! running the command 'ipconfig /all' in DOS
    shows the subnet mask)

    ON YOUR TREO 300:

    I. Set up HOTSYNC for Network Mode!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on MODEM SYNC PREFS
    you can also just press O
    D) choose NETWORK
    E) press OK

    II. Set up HOTSYNC for Lansync!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on LANSYNC PREFS
    you can also just press L
    D) choose LANSYNC
    E) press OK

    III. Set up HOTSYNC to connect to you PC
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) Press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) Under HOTSYNC Options click on PRIMARY PC SETUP
    you can also just press P
    D) Under PRIMARY PC NAME:
    1) enter "!!"
    E) Under PRIMARY PC ADDRESS:
    1) enter your PC's IP address
    TIP! on windows 9x,ME,XP,2000 to get your address press
    START->then press->under OPEN: type COMMAND->
    and press OK. In the DOS box that opens type
    IPCONFIG. Your IP address is shown. type EXIT to get
    out of dos.
    F) Under SUBNET MASK (OPTIONAL) :
    1) enter your PC's Subnet Mask address
    TIP! on windows 9x,ME,XP,2000 to get your address press
    START->then press->under OPEN: type COMMAND->
    and press OK. In the DOS box that opens type
    IPCONFIG /ALL. Your Subnet Mask is shown.
    type EXIT to get out of dos.

    IV. Set up HOTSYNC for what you want to sync!
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on CONDUIT SETUP
    you can also just press D
    D) By default all your applications are checked
    E) You may wish to speed up syncing by unchecking apps you
    dont want synced.

    V. Set up HOTSYNC for the TREOs WIRELESS MODEM
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) press the settings button (the one with the blue home on it)
    C) under HOTSYNC Options click on CONNECTION SETUP
    you can also just press S
    D) By default WIRELESS MODEM is highlighted.
    If not click on WIRELESS MODEM.
    E) press DONE

    VI. Set up HOTSYNC for the SPRINT PCS VISION network
    A) If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B) select MODEM instead of local.
    C) under the icon of the phone and hotsync click on the
    dashed box. probably labeled select service.
    D) You are taken to the network preferences screen.
    E) Be sure the Service is listed as SPRINT-visionname01
    ( where visionname01 is probably your PCS VISION username)
    F) Choose done

    VII. SYNC YOUR HANDHELD WHILE YOUR IN FRONT OF YOUR PC
    A)If not in Hotsync app click on the hotsync icon
    B)Press the phone and hotsync logo to begin the sync.
    C) you will see the words "connecting with the desktop"
    D) you will see the works "identifying user..."
    E) On your desktop you may be prompted to select a User
    Name for this sync. Choose your username.

    If it works twice. Be confident it will work when you need it. Just have to keep your PC on!

    *ROUTER OWNERS OR REMOTE SYNCERS USING NAT OR
    FIREWALL:
    - Be sure to configure your firewall to open up TCP ports 14237 and UDP ports 14238. If you cant specify just choose 14237 and 14238.
    - Be sure that all traffic to those ports goes to the ip of the LAN PC that is running HOT SYNC MANAGER.
    - Remember the IP address in step III part E has to be a WAN address not a private or internal LAN IP address, like 192.168.0.99
    - After a successful sync the ip address listed in PRIMARY PC SETUP may be replaced by the one in hotsync manager. meaning if your hotsync manager is on an internal ip like 192.168.0.99 then your TREOs PRIMARY PC IP will be 192.168.0.99 and therefore need to be changed to a WAN address. I believe by making your PRIMARY PC NAME !! this won't happen.

    * OFFICE USERS
    REMEMBER TO CHECK WITH YOUR IT GALS/GUYS and/or SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR.

    *SECURITY MINDED USERS
    Network Syncing is not the most secure thing in the world. Read Security information on it at bugtraq or your favorite security watering hole.

    HAPPY SYNCING!!!

    - shimatani hiro

    Geminii Group -white cell-

    keywords: wireless hotsync , network hotsync , remote sync, remote access , DataMgr.c, Line: 9573 , Index out of range , backup , backup buddy , geminii
    Grace & Peace,

    utey
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    Very interesting. However, would this work if I have a Linux PC as my gateway PC. By this I mean this is the PC that has the static IP address. My windows based PC, which is what I synch to, has a 192.168.x.x IP address. So, is a network hotsynch still do-able ?

    Help appreciated.
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    Yes, that should work fine. You just have to configure your Linux PC to forward the traffic on the ports mentioned above to your desktop pc.
    Working smoke detectors save lives.
  13. #13  
    I am not too comfortable opening those ports on my firewall but...

    If Handspring included a VPN Client as part of the base PalmOS, network sync could be made more secure...

    ... after a hard reset, you would connect to your LAN securely via VPN and then perform the network sync!

    Does anyone know if some next version of PalmOS will include this?
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    Ok,

    I'd really like to get this network synching working as well, since this is a really neat feature. How do I open these ports and set the forwarding on them using IPTABLES ? I have RedHat 7.1 installed and I am by no means an IPTABLES expert.

    Any help/advice gratefully received.
    Last edited by DaveInFL; 01/09/2003 at 10:07 AM.
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    All,

    Through trail and error I managed to work out how to do the IPTABLES mod to forward the ports onto my internal PC.

    Synching as I write this....very nice feature.

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