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    I am very interested in e-books for my Visor Deluxe. I downloaded the free Palmreader from http://www.peanutpress.com and was ready to go until I discovered the outrageous prices publishers are charging for e-books. I was aghast. I figured each book would run no more than $5 a copy.

    I was shocked to find that most books run only $0.50 cheaper than their hardcopy versions. Does this make sense? I understand there's a convenience factor here, but why would I pay almost the same price for an electronic version when I can get the more reliable and time-tested hardcopy for just about the same amount of money. I mean, an e-book couls easily get zapped from my hard-drive one day and I lose my $15. Whereas a hardcopy hardcover edition could sit on my bookshelf my entire lifetime (presumably).

    Here's an example: I did a search at Peanutpress.com for When Pride Still Mattered: A Life of Vince Lombardi by David Maraniss. The e-book costs $14.99 to download and view it on your PDA. I checked out Barnes & Noble, and they have the same book in paperback for $14.40. You can check almost any title and you'll see similar results.

    I would love to download books to my Visor Deluxe so I can read 'em anywhere when I have my PDA. But I refuse to pay a publisher the same price as a hardcopy version when their printing and distribution costs are obviously reduced by releasing an e-book version. Anyone else have any ideas on this subject?

    By the way, anyone know where to get free e-books from either established or good up-and-coming authors?
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    Try this link .. everything free...

    http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/ebooks/ebooklist.html

    Just takes some looking around to find free ebooks.

    I do agree that the prices are exceedingly high, but would guess that it is because it is the information, story, etc that they are selling, not paper and hardcover. Therefore, you get the same thing with an ebook that you would with the printed copy.
    RJuhl
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    I hear you. Most of my books are about the same as their paperback counterparts, but yesterday I bought "On a Beam of Light" (The sequel to "K-PAX") and it was $15! The hardcover was $14 at amazon.

    By the way, though, you can re-download books you bought from Peanut Press as many times as you want for free.
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    Other free Book Links:

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/modsbookfull.html

    http://promo.net/pg/index.html

    http://www.grtbooks.com/default.asp?idx=0&sub=0

    http://www.memoware.com/

    ...The nice thing about copyright is that it isn't forever.

    re: cost. that's life, I guess. Me, I don't buy ebooks. I'm old fashioned enough to say that If I'm plunking down money for text, I want the goddamned paper and ink.
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    Originally posted by dietrichbohn
    Other free Book Links:

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/modsbookfull.html

    ...The nice thing about copyright is that it isn't forever.

    re: cost. that's life, I guess. Me, I don't buy ebooks. I'm old fashioned enough to say that If I'm plunking down money for text, I want the goddamned paper and ink.
    I was about to post a link to the Medieval Sourcebook but this page links to it. I really like coming to this page for trying to documents not in Memoware. Plus all the documents are in easy to convert formats

    As far as copywrite and stuff like that, I have gotten too a point where if it isn't a copywrited book or document, I am not going to pay for it, I am just going to find it on the net.

    Otherwise, well I would prefer the paper version.

    Jason
    Did you just go near a burning hot river of lava or are you just happy to see me?
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    i agree. they're far too expensive. i would recommend you read the FREE ebook available at www.ideavirus.com. it's fantastic.

    mc
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    Originally posted by RedSoxPDAer
    I understand there's a convenience factor here,
    Convenience? I find it rediculous enough reading short AvantGo pages on that screen, so entire book...! I don't know. Is it easier to read with the Prism?
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Originally posted by ernieba1


    Is it easier to read with the Prism?
    In complete darkness.
  9. #9  
    Originally posted by ernieba1


    Convenience? I find it rediculous enough reading short AvantGo pages on that screen, so entire book...! I don't know. Is it easier to read with the Prism?
    I don't know about the Prism, but I find it is easier to read on my Platinum. You can always carry it with you and doesn't take up additional room on ones backpack. Thus it is helpful for when you got to read a book for your English classes. Never have to worry about checking out a book. Still doesn't justify the costs of an eBook you have to buy but it does make it nice for long novels for English classes.
    Did you just go near a burning hot river of lava or are you just happy to see me?
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    DeepReader on the Sony Clie makes it very easy to read.

    Not something I would want to do cover to cover in one sitting, but very convenient when flying, waiting for appts, etc. Have read many ebooks, piece by piece, and find it very decent reading.
    RJuhl
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    Hi,
    You can also get some free eBooks on my web page.
    They maybe oldies, but they're still a good read;
    if you never read them before?
    PalmGear.com ( www.palmgear.com ) has some
    of my eBook selection also

    Byron
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    I didn't think I would like using reading ebooks because of the small screen, but I find it doesn't bother me at all. It is especially good on trips when you can have a whole selection of books available without any extra luggage. But it is very frustrating that the books are so expensive. I will pay the price of the paperback (especially because I have to travel to another country to find a decent selection of paper-and-ink books, which adds a lot to the already high cost), but the price of a hardcover is unreasonable. I find that Fictionwise has a pretty good selection and the cost, especially for older books, is quite reasonable. For under 5 USD you can usually get a good selection.
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    It is certainly less enjoyable to read a book on a palm (take it from a guy who read Anna Karenina on an Edge!), although I must admit I've got a soft spot for the autoscroll feature on CSpotRun (having to move your eyes up and down the page is such a drag ).

    However, reading on a palm is much, much more convenient. I've got it with me anyway, why not have a book on it? Thus, when I'm waiting in line, I have my choice of killing alien scum in Zap2016 and actually using my brain.
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    Originally posted by traveler
    I didn't think I would like using reading ebooks because of the small screen, but I find it doesn't bother me at all. It is especially good on trips when you can have a whole selection of books available without any extra luggage.
    Yes indeedy!
    I got an InnoPocket Flash Plus and a 256meg SanDisk CF card.

    At last count I have 217 novels in my Visor.
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    I also appreciate having e-Books on my memory card. I have some great poetry, reference materials, some great fiction, even things to read to the kids.

    This feature is so handy when I am caught with some spare time, or without access to a paper book- waiting in a long line, a boring road trip (when I am the passenger, of course!), asked a question in the hallway (that I happen to have in e-format), etc.

    I prefer to read paper books, but the e-versions are great!

    I agree that the prices are too high, and I think that is preventing the wide-spread adoption that the industry has been hoping for. I bet prices tumble as the demand and competition picks up- which it won't as long as the prices are high- the old nasty circle!

    Wouldn't it be great if purchasing a paper book also bought you rights to the e-version? Maybe you would have to pay a buck or so for whatever reason, but I would LOVE to be able to read a new book seamlessly on paper or in e-format depending on where I am!

    By the way, another great e-book site is the Gutenburg Project- http://promo.net/pg/
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    I have not actually held a book in my hands longer than to scan it into a text file and load it to my Visor (or now my MemPlug) since I purchased my first VDX in 1999. For me, the convinience is well worth the sore thumb. You can get a program called DropBook from Visorcentral, and then convert any text file to their format. PalmReader (PeanutReader) also can read standard Palm Doc's, so you can use any convertor to that format as well. There are several news groups that post hundreds of books a week that you might want to check out as well. I've found that it is very difficult for me to feel comfortable even holding my Bible in chucrch any more now that I've been reading the books and Bible on my Visor for this long, but maybe it is just the geek in me shining through.
    "Whoever said bigger isn't better...Lied!"
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    I like downloading from http://fictionwise.com/ . I think the prices are much more inline and I like their rating system.

    I love reading on my Visor Deluxe. I find it to be so much more convenient than "paper" books. I carry my Visor everywhere, so when I'm stuck in line somewhere, or have a few minutes, I read.

    I don't mind waiting anymore...
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    I like the idea of ebooks, but... it's really hard to beat the old-fashioned text-on-paper idea. Don't get me wrong as I also have ebooks on my Platinum, and like the portability that ebooks have to offer. However, until prices come down and device readability improves, I'd be hard-pressed to believe that ebooks will replace 't-books' anytime soon.

    Just my USD 0.02.
    Experience is what happens when something unexpected comes up.
  19. #19  
    Another plug for Fictionwise from me. I think PDAs are best for reading short fiction, and it has an excellent, and reasonably priced, selection.
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    Being physically disabled, I find that e-books are a LOT easier to handle than paperback or hardback books. I have tons of those, but I LOVE being able to have books on my Neo, so I can lay in bed and read them without waking up my husband. Or in the car when we're going somewhere, or even when waiting at the doctor's office. I even use my Neo when I do want to read and just don't want to worry about dropping the book 15 times or so.

    Dana
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