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  1.    #1  
    I've seen several posts asking how to disable the data plan or per KB usage charges on Palm Centro and Palm Treo devices.

    Here's a single list I recommend for people who want to avoid data charges.
    If you have a carrier other than Verizon, Step 1 would be different.

    4 recommended steps:
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    ....1. Block Data Services @ Verizon's Web Site
    ....2. Add dummy Network Service on Palm Device
    ....3. Change the Wireless Sync button to something else
    ....4. Optionally Hide data consuming applications on Palm Device

    Step 1:
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    Login to Verizon at www.verizonwireless.com
    My Verizion > My Services > My Plan
    ....If you have more than 1 cell phone,
    ........choose the appropriate telephone number.
    Add/Remove Features
    ....Block Application Downloads
    ....Block VCAST Video Clips
    ....Block Mobile Web
    ....Block VCAST Music
    ....Block Ringback Tone Purchase

    Step 2:
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    On the Palm OS Device
    Preferences > Network > Menu > Service > New
    ....Service: NoDataCharges
    ....Connection: Cradle/Cable
    Click [Done]

    Step 3:
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    On the Palm OS Device
    Preferences > Buttons
    .... Change the Wireless Sync button to Calc
    Click [Done]

    Step 4:
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    On you desktop computer / laptop
    Download a utility which hides applications icons on the Palm device
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh....php?p=1275905
    Open the zip file and double click on the PRC file
    Perform a HotSync to transfer the PRC file to your Palm
    Then, on the Palm device
    Preferences > Applications
    Click on each of the following to "Hide" the application icon
    within Palm's application launcher
    ....My Treo or My Centro
    ....Downloads
    ....Google Maps
    ....Web
    ....Wireless Sync
    BradS

    Pilot Pro-->III-->Vx-->Tungsten E-->T|X-->Treo 755p
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    Imprressive list of measures.

    But a real simple option is to go into the device prefs panel to Network/Options/Preferences
    and put a check in the 'Ask before connecting to the Internet' box.

    Nothing will connect to the Net unless you tap the 'Yes' button.

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    uh hello? didnt anyone tell you, if you block data service, you may run the risk of NOT being able to receive or send text messages or picture messages. (vzw network)
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    V of HB:

    Text Messages work perfectly fine with the data plan completely disabled. I've been successful at sending and receiving all of them for the last 6 months with the data plan disabled on my 755p with Verizon.

    I suspect you are right with respect to Picture Messages. I think they are part of the data plan but I'm not sure. I do not use this feature.

    Disabling the Data Plan is not for everyone. However, it will enable you to have a Cell Phone and PDA in a single device without having to pay the high premium that Verizon requires for data.
    BradS

    Pilot Pro-->III-->Vx-->Tungsten E-->T|X-->Treo 755p
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    I don't get it. All you need is step number 2. It is 100% effective and simple. It also preserves the ability, after changing the preferences back, to use data on a pay per kb basis if you really need to check google maps or download an email.

    All the other steps are just extra work with no benefit.
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    I just bought a Palm Centro from Verizon.

    On step 2, I can't change anything in the Network setting, everything is locked. I go Preferences -> Network, then it says locked. I can click on Modify and get a message that says it cannot be edited. I can click on Details and then Advanced, but they are also locked.

    Is there something I'm overlooking here?

    Thanks for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmygiii View Post
    I just bought a Palm Centro from Verizon.

    On step 2, I can't change anything in the Network setting, everything is locked. I go Preferences -> Network, then it says locked. I can click on Modify and get a message that says it cannot be edited. I can click on Details and then Advanced, but they are also locked.

    Is there something I'm overlooking here?

    Thanks for your help.
    What you want to due is not modify the existing but create a new one.

    menu -> New
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    Quote Originally Posted by ams123 View Post
    I don't get it. All you need is step number 2. It is 100% effective and simple. It also preserves the ability, after changing the preferences back, to use data on a pay per kb basis if you really need to check google maps or download an email.

    All the other steps are just extra work with no benefit.
    Agree, #2 is a great, reversible solution.

    Thank you, bpsherwo, for a great, great post. Complete, yet written so concisely and accurately. Just perfect engineering and spec writing.
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    This is a freakin' racket carriers are using now. They make picture messaging part of the data and having data blocked by them does not keep the picture messaging from using data. Luckily SmartPhones can stop it from happening, other phones can't. What ever happened to the 25 cents per picture charge? I thought only Sprint was doing this but "good" to know they are just copying the Verizon tactics.

    I hope some lawyer decides to "fix" this with some lawsuit.
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    This hasn't changed in several years now. Why is this all of a sudden a problem now and not a problem several years ago?
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    I'm confused. Is this method a way for "cheating" Verizon out of charging for data operations, or a way to prevent your phone from accepting any transactions that involve data? thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornev View Post
    I'm confused. Is this method a way for "cheating" Verizon out of charging for data operations, or a way to prevent your phone from accepting any transactions that involve data? thorne
    This just prevents the phone from doing any data transfers.
    Last edited by ams123; 01/17/2009 at 06:16 AM.
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    I have a very strongly worded letter out to Verizon right now, complaining that although I'm on a Family share plan which gives me unlimited text and picture messaging, my Palm Centro doesn't allow me to send picture messages because I have blocked the data plan. Essentially Verizon is trying to double charge me, forcing me to pay for data plan and the unlimited picture messaging plan. I haven't heard a response in 30 days, so Monday will be sending on to my state's FTC, FCC, and the US Senate Antitrust subcommittee. I'm sick of these bull**** excuses by telecoms that they "can't" support something like allowing MMS but not data. That's like Microsoft claiming they "can't" remove the features from XP that caused the antitrust lawsuit...and look how that turned out for them.
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    about 3 months ago I switched to the centro at my local verizon store. the salesman insisted I could not get the phone unless I signed up for the unlimited $30 data plan. I even asked if I could pay per kb. I submitted to their "policy". now i'm kind of upset now that I see it is possible. any recourse I could/should take?
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    Verizons policy as it was describe to after 30 minutes of arguing on the phone is that for all "new" smartphones you must get a data plan. As it was explained, new refers to release date of the phone, thus the Centro was grandfathered as it was released prior to this polic going into effect. Be sure to call and argue this point and they will remove the data plan. This work for my wife's new Centro about a month ago.
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    I called verizon and as soon as the operator picked up I said "I want to activate this treo and I DO NOT want the data plan." about 10 minutes later I was texting all my friends successfully. I followed the steps mentioned above.

    thank you for the great information
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    miked11,
    I activated my palm centro today without a data plan. When I arrived, I was told at first that there was no way to activate palm centros without a data plan (their online activation had no option for anything but a $30 data plan). But, a week before today, I was told over the phone by a branch that palm centros could be activated with or without the plan. After I reiterated this to them, they made me speak to a specialist behind the counter of the store. She told me that it would be risky to activate a centro without the data plan, since i could incur overages accidentally. I told her that I accepted the risk (knowing that I would block it myself, per the advice given above). She took the phone back door and activated it for me, without the data plan. As I got home, I performed the steps given by bpsherwo above.

    In short, the store won't advertise their ability to activate centros without a data plan, but with persistent conversation at the branch, they should allow it.

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