Check this out...

http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2007...rta-on-iphone/

Looks like a developer was able to pull location info via cell tower triangulation (a-GPS, I think)...why can't we get this type of innovation on our Treos? I've been asking this for years since the 650s had built in a-GPS and everyone said that this data is not accessible...