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    One of the hallmark features of every Treo (save the 90) is gone on the 500v: the ringer switch. What does this mean for the upcoming Centro?
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    ...a 3rd party application development opportunity?
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    It might mean something simple, like hit the power button and get an option to change profiles or mute ringer. Other's do it like this you know, it's not the end of the world (though a bit more cludgy).
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    I have never used that switch on my 650 and 700p. Profiles is a much better alternative.
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    I would never have guessed this was in the list of things you guys wanted to get rid of.
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    I don't want to have to power up my treo just to mute it. When I walk into a meeting on short notice or I am having a longer meeting that originally intended, I want to be able to reach at my belt and just slide the switch and not have to be too obvious and pull out the whole phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavingjan View Post
    I don't want to have to power up my treo just to mute it. When I walk into a meeting on short notice or I am having a longer meeting that originally intended, I want to be able to reach at my belt and just slide the switch and not have to be too obvious and pull out the whole phone.
    Agreed. And having the switch allows you to mute it during a "pop-up" meeting that you don't have a profile set for.
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    If I am a betting man, I would bet the Centro has the switch. Why? becuase it has the "athena" connector, unlike the mini-usb on the 500. 500 mostly likely is a repackage wm smartphone from some OEM that share nothing but the battery with the other Treos.
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    I also bet that the 500v has a mute-type switch. Like, tap the power button twice for MUTE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    One of the hallmark features of every Treo (save the 90) is gone on the 500v: the ringer switch. What does this mean for the upcoming Centro?
    I just answered the same thread in the 500 discussion:

    I'm not sure, but they may be doing what my great (and four-year-old, still working great) Kyocera 7135 Palm phone does: if you hold down the down volume button for a couple of seconds, it turns on/off the silent mode. It works great and doesn't need a separate button. When it goes into silent mode it vibrates, so you know it without looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever7 View Post
    I have never used that switch on my 650 and 700p. Profiles is a much better alternative.
    Quote Originally Posted by cavingjan View Post
    I don't want to have to power up my treo just to mute it. When I walk into a meeting on short notice or I am having a longer meeting that originally intended, I want to be able to reach at my belt and just slide the switch and not have to be too obvious and pull out the whole phone.
    Quote Originally Posted by phrogpilot73 View Post
    Agreed. And having the switch allows you to mute it during a "pop-up" meeting that you don't have a profile set for.
    You don't need that switch on the 650/700p (any palmOS Treo). In systems not named the PalmOS, profiles are used. It just so happens that to those who don't just brute force mute their device, that a profile management program is a popular addition.

    It's a UX difference. Simple silencing, or a granular profile approach. Differing needs for different users, and usually software is not far behind in filling up the gaps.
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    Here's a list of the software on the device, from Palm's spec page.

    Software on device
    ActiveSync®, Alarm Clock, Bluetooth®, Bubble Breaker, Calculator, Camera, eBay1, File Explorer, Google Maps1, Internet Connect Sharing, Internet Explorer® Mobile, Messaging, Microsoft® Notes, Microsoft Office (including Excel®, Outlook®, PowerPoint®, and Word), Phone, Picture and Video, Solitaire, Task Manager, Vodafone live!, Windows Media® Player Mobile
    http://euro.palm.com/uk/en/products/...dex.html#specs

    Ebay seems to be the only novel one that may have originated from Palm.

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    What's the difference between a mechanical mute switch and lowering the volume, via the phone and/or application volume buttons settings? Do some noises supercede the volume rockers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifes2short View Post
    What's the difference between a mechanical mute switch and lowering the volume, via the phone and/or application volume buttons settings? Do some noises supercede the volume rockers?
    Yes, the Treo resetting itself comes to mind!
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    I never understood profiles. The ringer switch I think is one of the better ideas on the treo. Yes every other phone including the Kyocera Palm phone, you hold down a button and it mutes it, but its nice to walk into a meeting, reach down and flip the switch. Oh by the way the antenna helps with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emajy View Post
    Yes, the Treo resetting itself comes to mind!
    On current models [680/750/755] this is a problem? Hadn't come across that one.
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    The physical ringer switch is the single best feature on the treo. Period.

    Dear Palm,
    I've stood by you since my first Pilot 5000 in 1996. I will drop you like dogsh!t if you take away the ringer switch. Dropping this feature is the absolute last straw - the surest sign you deserve chapter 7 liquidation.

    Removing the ringer switch is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard Palm think of doing. Worse than the Foleo, worse than the Lifedrive. Just unspeakably dumb. Every manager who signs off on a Treo without a ringer switch needs to be fired with cause: gross incompetence.

    I can't be more clear on this point. Remove the ringer switch? Die. Just eat poison and die if you're gonna do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vga4life View Post
    ...I can't be more clear on this point. Remove the ringer switch? Die. Just eat poison and die if you're gonna do that.

    ...but how do you really feel?
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    Have to say that once I moved from the 650 to the Q, I missed the ringer switch a few times. But once I got used to the 'Automatic' profile, life is good! I just make sure I have most events on my calendar and if it is not, spending 10 seconds to mute is not that big of a deal to me.
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    I think the 500v has the ring switcher. Please go to 500 forum and watch the video.
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