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    I am loving my 2100mAh battery! The battery door fits just the same as it does with the OEM battery. It seems that the phone is a little zippier using Blazer, as well as changing from application to application. One thing that I like is that it charges up so far to 99%- the OEM only charges to 98%. I am hopeful it will reach 100% after some further conditioning. Battery life is definitely better. I don't have percentages but it seems that it is at least the 25% that they promise it does, maybe a bit more. I can easily go all day without having to recharge it. This is the best purchase I have made so far for my new Treo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathearder View Post
    I am loving my 2100mAh battery! The battery door fits just the same as it does with the OEM battery. It seems that the phone is a little zippier using Blazer, as well as changing from application to application. One thing that I like is that it charges up so far to 99%- the OEM only charges to 98%. I am hopeful it will reach 100% after some further conditioning. Battery life is definitely better. I don't have percentages but it seems that it is at least the 25% that they promise it does, maybe a bit more. I can easily go all day without having to recharge it. This is the best purchase I have made so far for my new Treo.
    I am guessing that the extended battery has no effect on Blazer runnning faster...most likely the "placebo" effect....unless of course you are kiddng.....
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    How long were you getting in the day before you would have to recharge with the standard OEM battery? With the OEM battery, I am down from 98% to about 82% within the first hour of the day. I have to recharge a couple of times during the day. If I went a full along without a recharge, I would be drained completely around 6pm-7pm very easily. I just got my refund from Boxwave/Amazon for their fake 755p battery (they assumed the 755p would have the same as a 680 or 750 battery). I am looking forward to this; however, I think I heard about a 3200mAh battery from Seidio. I will either of the two.
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    rj it may be just my perception but overall the Treo is faster in what it does. It does seem to be apparent with Blazer when it is bringing up web pages, as well as moving between applications. Anyone else noticed this?
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    godschoice I was in the same situation that you were, charging more than once a day. I usually recharged about half way rather than taking it down till it drained. Now I can easily go until I go to sleep. I mostly use mine for data so it does drain faster I guess than if I just used the phone. Seidio does have a larger battery now but I was not wanting to have the phone be larger with the extra door. For me this rocks, and I always have the OEM battery as backup.
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    I would charge every time through out the day, with this new battery, just over night. Very pleased! Fits like the OEM, works better than the OEM
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    Reverend do you think the phone seems zippier with the new battery? Mine seems to be just a tad faster.
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    Funny thing is, it does feel that way. Maybe with the more battery power the Treo is just getting more juice? The true test is when I get the other Extended Battery(with new door)coming out next week. Can't wait to see how much more Power I'm going to get.....
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    Please keep us posted on that! I really do feel that the extended battery makes a difference, and am interested to see how the larger battery affects things.
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    I sure will, just waiting for it to be shipped...
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    It is so hard waiting. I remember waiting for this battery, but it was sure worth it. I have the Palm battery charger, so I am always ready to go now, and have a spare as well. I am a happy camper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reverendrhino View Post
    Funny thing is, it does feel that way. Maybe with the more battery power the Treo is just getting more juice? The true test is when I get the other Extended Battery(with new door)coming out next week. Can't wait to see how much more Power I'm going to get.....
    I ordered one as well, we can compare results. I got the speedy feeling too, maybe the oem battery is not providing enough juice. Also, after the OP post I made a test and the keyboard lights are a bit brighter with the Seidio vs the OEM (used my wife as test subject for this blind test).
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    Manny that makes 3 of us that feel the Treo is more powerful with the new battery. You can see how the even larger one does as well. I will have to check the keyboard lights and see if I see that too. Anyone else notice differences?
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    We need pictures and video comparison of this. If it turns to be valid for all of us then this battery could be a must buy!
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    Since the battery is providing the exact same voltage, it's virtually impossible for there to be a difference. The Treo will have circuitry in it to deal with varying voltage as the battery runs down.

    However, your Treo could easily be a bit "snappier" after a reset, which is what you did when you put the new battery in.

    So that and placebo effect explains what you're seeing.

    Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by VetPsychWars View Post
    Since the battery is providing the exact same voltage, it's virtually impossible for there to be a difference. The Treo will have circuitry in it to deal with varying voltage as the battery runs down.

    However, your Treo could easily be a bit "snappier" after a reset, which is what you did when you put the new battery in.

    So that and placebo effect explains what you're seeing.

    Tom
    The voltage might be the same but the current also can vary having the same higher perceived power results. Increased amps can have your device running longer and with an initially higher power that might even out as the battery runs down. I am no electrical engineer and claim nothing but basic knowledge of the dynamics of electric power and have no hard tests to prove the phenomenon but I found it interesting that other people found their 755p a bit faster and the lights on the keyboard seemed brighter to me so I did the test with my wife with the same results. BTW she had no knowledge of what I was trying to prove or what battery was in the equipment at the time and got the same results 3 times.

    In a water analogy from the web. Take a hose and point it at a waterwheel like the ones that were used to turn grinding stones in watermills. You can increase the power generated by the waterwheel in two ways. If you increase the pressure of the water coming out of the hose, it hits the waterwheel with a lot more force and the wheel turns faster, generating more power. If you increase the flow rate, the waterwheel turns faster because of the weight of the extra water hitting it.

    In an electrical systems, increasing either the current or the voltage will result in higher power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MannyPR View Post
    The voltage might be the same but the current also can vary having the same higher perceived power results. Increased amps can have your device running longer and with an initially higher power that might even out as the battery runs down. I am no electrical engineer and claim nothing but basic knowledge of the dynamics of electric power and have no hard tests to prove the phenomenon but I found it interesting that other people found their 755p a bit faster and the lights on the keyboard seemed brighter to me so I did the test with my wife with the same results. BTW she had no knowledge of what I was trying to prove or what battery was in the equipment at the time and got the same results 3 times.

    In a water analogy from the web. Take a hose and point it at a waterwheel like the ones that were used to turn grinding stones in watermills. You can increase the power generated by the waterwheel in two ways. If you increase the pressure of the water coming out of the hose, it hits the waterwheel with a lot more force and the wheel turns faster, generating more power. If you increase the flow rate, the waterwheel turns faster because of the weight of the extra water hitting it.

    In an electrical systems, increasing either the current or the voltage will result in higher power.
    Any ideas why this didn't happen with the Treo 700p extended battery from Seidio?

    Al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treolo View Post
    Any ideas why this didn't happen with the Treo 700p extended battery from Seidio?

    Al
    I don't know. Just guessing here but there is a chance that there was a similar boost in the 700p but since the bottleneck was the memory management and buggy OS routines it wasn't perceivable. After the MR all boosts experienced will be attributed to the MR so no one thought about it. There you go mystery solved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MannyPR View Post

    In a water analogy from the web. Take a hose and point it at a waterwheel like the ones that were used to turn grinding stones in watermills. You can increase the power generated by the waterwheel in two ways. If you increase the pressure of the water coming out of the hose, it hits the waterwheel with a lot more force and the wheel turns faster, generating more power. If you increase the flow rate, the waterwheel turns faster because of the weight of the extra water hitting it.

    In an electrical systems, increasing either the current or the voltage will result in higher power.
    Your analogy is faulty. The pressure is the voltage and the flow rate is the current. Your Treo is the pipe; for a given size of pipe, it doesn't matter if you have a bucket or the Pacific Ocean behind it, you're getting the same amount of water out of the pipe.

    Same thing with the battery.

    The equivalent resistance of the Treo, as the battery sees it, will remain constant, for large values of constant. It will obviously vary based on whether you're using the radio, how bright the screen is, and so forth, but for the sake of clear explanation, it's constant.

    The voltage is the same between the two batteries, by design.

    Therefore, the same amount of current is drawn by the Treo from the battery. Remember that current is "taken", it is not strictly delivered, though we refer to it that way. If the Treo needs more current, it will attempt to draw more current. The battery will supply it or not.

    This isn't subject to discussion. Ohm's Law (v=Ri) isn't just a good idea, it's the law.

    i=v/R

    Now what this larger battery does is increase the amount of energy that can be delivered by the battery. The voltage remains the same (about four volts), and the current draw remains the same, so all you're getting is the ability to deliver the same current draw for a longer amount of time. That's why these batteries are rated in mAh, or milliampere-hours. An 1800mAh battery will deliver 100mA for 18 hours. A 2100mAh battery will deliver 100mA for 21 hours.

    No magic about it, and, like I said, not subject to discussion or argument. You can't change the laws of physics because you want to.

    Like I said, if you're seeing any difference, it's probably because of the reset or placebo effect. The larger capacity of a well-designed battery won't have any effect except to allow the same current draw for a longer period of time.

    Tom
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    I love this thread and the Burgundy thread.
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