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  1. #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion View Post
    Thats fine. Too bad Palm is still making wagon wheels, while everyone else has advanced to rubber tires, inner tubes, tubeless, bias ply, radial ply...but yeah, at least you get a wagon wheel in friggin' Crimson, oh and with less spokes then the previous version... Yay Palm!!
    Who?? I just spent the last month frantically searching for a device because I am sick of Sprint not having EVDO here. There simply is NOT a better device on the market today.

    My 700p is crash free. I used to think it was a little slower than the 650 but I spent a fair amount of time side by side testing that yesterday. One might visually start a proccess faster than the other but they finished whatever command I tried at virtually the same time.
  2. #62  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion View Post
    Thats fine. Too bad Palm is still making wagon wheels, while everyone else has advanced to rubber tires, inner tubes, tubeless, bias ply, radial ply...but yeah, at least you get a wagon wheel in friggin\' Crimson, oh and with less spokes then the previous version... Yay Palm!!
    Try smoking a little less crack. Have you ever used a Q or a 6700? They are basically junk. Maybe you could name a better pdaphone on Sprint than the Treos? Palm still sells a LOT more pdaphones than anyone else and they do it for a reason.
  3. #63  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Try smoking a little less crack. Have you ever used a Q or a 6700? They are basically junk. Maybe you could name a better pdaphone on Sprint than the Treos? Palm still sells a LOT more pdaphones than anyone else and they do it for a reason.
    I have been hearing some really good things about the Samsung IP-830(?)
  4. #64  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Try smoking a little less crack. Have you ever used a Q or a 6700? They are basically junk. Maybe you could name a better pdaphone on Sprint than the Treos? Palm still sells a LOT more pdaphones than anyone else and they do it for a reason.
    Are personal insults really necessary?

    That's all your opinion though...I know people who think the Treo's are junk...Personally when I got my Treo, I was calling it junk because it would reset on some of my incoming calls. Also hearing about people having lockups with incoming SMS's, that sounds like junk too. And it didn't sound like it was an uncommon problem either. I've never heard of any of those kinda problems being common with WM devices. Not saying the Q and 6700 are the best out there, but to say that the Treo is the best overall is simply an opinion and really holds no weight. There are some that would much rather have a 6700 than a Treo. And why are we limited to just Sprint? Sprint isn't the only carrier that sells Treos...

    And the point of his post was that Palm keeps making small, incremental upgrades to their past devices, while other manufacturers are making big changes.

    600 to 650: More memory, higher screen resolution, bluetooth, Less crappier camera

    650 to 700: More memory, EvDO, better camera, crappy button arrangement (at least as a 650 user I think the button arangement is stupid, I'm sure a lot of us would agree)

    700 to 755p: Slightly different form factor, potentially lower battery life, miniSD instead of SD, same crappy button arrangement

    All the while, they're still running the same old OS5, no wifi support, no bt dialing, and still a lot of people having instability, resets, headset jack failures, and other ridiculous problems you shouldn't have on such an expensive phone.
  5. #65  
    Sales figures. Look them up. Palm sells more units than anyone else. Not saying that their devices are perfect (far from it) but they are the best currently available and the sales figures back that up.
  6. #66  
    If you dont own a 700P then maybe this is a good device but for use treo700P owners this isnt a upgrade really. Smallchange in the form factor but still generally the same thing, No atteana , I have to zoti and we can all now get rid of ours so nothing new. Smaller battery , I have the extra extended 3300 battery just because of Slingplayer and it would be imposible to enjoy Sling with a smaller battery (would last a hour) so for power user of media this is a bad thing. 700P already has evdo. And smaller SD card would mean more money to buy new SD cards (and honestly there is no issue with the SD card and I prefer the regular SD as all my devices use them and if I take pics with my camera i can email them by putting the SD card into my treo), plus if there is some difference in OS systems , that means some programs would not work possibley. This phone is for new user , not for owners of the 700 P . The phone to upgrade from the 700P is not out yet. This is and was not meant to be an upgrade for 700P owners , just a new model similar to the 700P.

    WHat would be good ( and make me change) is a better camera (2-3 MP) , a flash, better blazer , Wifi and Bluetooth that works. and none of this is on the 755P according to reports ( But that could change i guess).
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  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Sales figures. Look them up. Palm sells more units than anyone else. Not saying that their devices are perfect (far from it) but they are the best currently available and the sales figures back that up.
    I think in USA RIM would disagree, and worldwide Nokia, RIM, HTC etc would also disagree.

    Surur
  8. #68  
    "Everybody Palm!"

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  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by duanedude1 View Post
    I'll take two Samsung wagon wheels in crimson.
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    #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by duanedude1 View Post
    Heh! Nice one.

    You know, it's a shame that the 755p release wasn't announced today so we could call April Fool's on it. Alas, it seems to be a reality.

    Yet, I find no other compelling device for my specific needs that is a worthy upgrade to my 650 at present. I would certainly love to see improvements in the Treo - but nothing else suits my taste.
  11. #71  
    Quote Originally Posted by Trevante View Post
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    600 to 650: More memory, higher screen resolution, bluetooth, Less crappier camera
    One of the most significant changes from the 600 to the 650 that no one seems to remember is the first advent of NVFS incarnation in Frankengarnet. Most newbies don't remember, but if you had a short or totally drained 600, you would actually LOSE all your data!!!


    Anyway........ I personally have a very simple and modest upgrade wishlist that imo actually would fit into palm's incremental upgrade philosophy. Hardwarewise I think there needs to be a realization within Palm that STORAGE and WIFI are both important feature sets that must be integrated. I would like to see at least 1GB or internal nand storage which is even found on many lower end feature phones now days. If they are not going to integrate wifi, then they absolutely need to at least provide the drivers to for their own SD wifi card. I would also really like a FLASH for the camera!!! MP I'm not so concerned about, but a flash would make the cam alot more useful. Of course the 680/750 form factor is obvious.

    In regards to sotfware, all the tweaks and improvements in the 680 would be great. But they really need to spruce up the software bundle in a few areas. Namely it is an absolute disgrace that there is no builtin IM client on the Treo?! WTF is up with that? Why does Palm think users should depend on 3d party devs like Mundu, verichat for this?!!! IMO, Instant messaging shoudl be viewed as integral and basic a feature as email or MS office compatibility. Can you imagine if the Treo didn't ship with versamail or DTG integrated by default? That would be insane and I think the same thing should be considered with IM. Perhaps it is a generational thingy maybe, but for most twenty somethings and younger, I think IM is prolly more important than email on the same par at sms....

    Secondly, they need to integrate many default features in more lower end feature phones like Voice activated dialing, mp3 ringer functionality and etc. yes I know many of these things can be done via 3rd party apps, but you shouldn't need to buy all these 3rd party apps in the first place. It really should be out the box functionality espeically when much cheaper phones out there can do the same...
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  12. #72  
    Great Post Gfunk. Well said.

    Now having just half of that would make me rush out and get a new phone even for the $600 they charge ( Which is insane considering the price of other phones) , I love my treo 700P. I always kid around that if there was a fire I would grab my wife/son and my Treo and get out . LOL, Unlike most I have been lucky with minimal resets and stalls and I live off my device. (Read the new/Watch Movies/Listen to the radio/ Take pics and videos/Watch TV/Play Games/Internet/Email) but it is still missing some of the most basic thing that low end cell phones have and thats a shame. IM Device and Wifi should be standard but they want peopel to pay for data and sms texting etc. But overall the Treo700P is the one of the coolest devices around. I will get the next model that is an Upgrade and includes a few of the items mentioned above but not just to get a phone with a different form factor.
  13. #73  
    wow. will they be adding the ability to print and receive faxes right from the 755p? :-P
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  14. #74  
    I am all for Palm bringing in more customers with new phones, I just find it hard to feel they deserve new customers at this point. It's like they let out a new phone that doesn't improve anything on the older ones other than making it sleeker. I don't think many people are going to jump on board and think "I don't care that this new phone still has all the glitches of the previous phone, but I don't care as long as I don't have that nasty external antenna". It also puts a little fear in me because it seems that every time they let out a new phone, they forget they should still be giving support for the previous phone models.
  15. #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Try smoking a little less crack. Have you ever used a Q or a 6700? They are basically junk. Maybe you could name a better pdaphone on Sprint than the Treos? Palm still sells a LOT more pdaphones than anyone else and they do it for a reason.
    Do we really need this kind of fanboy mug sling in here? Even if the 700p is the most stable phone in the world, the 755p is still a less phone than the 700p. What excuse do you have? Spin it for me Albert.
  16. #76  
    Quote Originally Posted by nsxprime View Post
    Sales figures. Look them up. Palm sells more units than anyone else. Not saying that their devices are perfect (far from it) but they are the best currently available and the sales figures back that up.


    No they don't. In fact they aren't even in the Top 5 according to this report:

    http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9...ws-42-in-2006/
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  17. #77  
    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic View Post
    No they don\'t. In fact they aren\'t even in the Top 5 according to this report:

    http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9...ws-42-in-2006/
    Um, we are talking about Sprint here. Not sure why so many of your are having trouble remembering that. The 755p is being released by Sprint. How many Nokia pdaphones does Sprint sell? What about Panasonic and NEC? lol

    Again, pdaphone sales by Sprint. Palm crushes every other manufacturer (Motorola, HTC, Samsung and RIM).
  18. #78  
    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post
    Its probably built on the 680 shell, meaning a full SD slot, unless the EVDO radio is also large, which would imply a miniSD slot.

    Surur

    Is it going to have the full slot Sd that will read the 8 gig card? and have the ability to do AD2P or whatever to listen to our music wireless like on our ipods. Why not release wifi on this unit. Give Palm owners a little slack! For the high dollar we pay!
  19. #79  
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob-C View Post
    I don't understand the statement about this being an attractive upgrade for 650 users. If that were true then wouldn't the 700p have also been an attractive upgrade that they would've already purchased?

    What about this phone would make it a more attractive upgrade than 700p? An internal antenna?

    Bob-C Can you write Palm another letter and ask Palm if the 755p is going to have the lag because it has the same inherent hardware design? Or is the design different? Also ask them what happened to first quarter? On our update? Thank you!
  20. #80  
    Some poster who appears to have handled the unit confirmed that it is miniSD with no A2DP.

    Surur
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