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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by usskaos1 View Post
    Thanks for the reply Russ. I did not know about the button navigation from the City Forecast menu. That's a very handy way to retrieve the appropriate true color image. Thanks for the hint. I'm also looking foward to seeing the coverage updates for Pennsylvania.
    Here is the new Pennsylvania sector.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...anim_none.html

    Here's another tip ... when you zoom in on a particular radar region you will notice that the locations of certain cities are marked with a colored box. Tapping on the box will take you to the forecast page for the city. This works for MOST of the marked locations. There are some locations that don't have this link working yet.

    Russ
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRgEOff View Post
    Hi Russ,

    Thanks for the feedback, thats tantalising news. AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK $the$ $Indian$ $Met$ $service$ $hasnt$ $gone$ $down$ $the$ $road$ $of$ $product$ $commercialisation$ $typical$ $of$ $many$ $weather$ $bureaus$ $these$ $days$, $so$ $at$ $least$ $they$ $probably$ $wont$ $be$ $concerned$ $about$ $loss$ $of$ $revenue$. $But$ $like$ $most$ $institutions$ $here$ $Im$ $sure$ $their$ $refinement$ $of$ $the$ $art$ $of$ $bureaucratisation$ $remains$ $far$ $ahead$ $of$ $any$ $other$ $similar$ $body$ $around$ $the$ $world$. $Hopefully$ $your$ $liason$ $knows$ $the$ $right$ $person$ $to$ $talk$ $to$.

    If youre looking to start with one "test" site, Im in Bangalore, a rather climatically pleasant but rather undramatic location. To compensate, I'm hoping to head down to southern Kerala last week of May to experience the arrival of the monsoon.

    cheers
    Now word yet about the use of Indian Kalpana image data. The contact person here is currently out of town. I'll keep you up to date on this.

    Russ

    BTW ... If there are any other questions/suggestions/... let me know.
  3. #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by PDAWX View Post
    Here is the new Pennsylvania sector.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...anim_none.html

    Here's another tip ... when you zoom in on a particular radar region you will notice that the locations of certain cities are marked with a colored box. Tapping on the box will take you to the forecast page for the city. This works for MOST of the marked locations. There are some locations that don't have this link working yet.

    Russ
    Thanks for the new Pennsylvania map Russ!

    I had already figured out the navigation trick from the city "box" to the forecast page, but it's still a good tip to pass along to your website's visitors. Thanks again for participating on this forum.
  4. #44  
    Russ,

    How about adding New Orleans to the list of cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDAWX View Post
    Now word yet about the use of Indian Kalpana image data. The contact person here is currently out of town. I'll keep you up to date on this.Russ BTW ... If there are any other questions/suggestions/... let me know.
    Hi Russ,

    thx for update. I can think of one thing that would be very helpful for me, and other people too I guess. Several of the Palm weather apps now allow you to add in your own URLs for weather images. Xweather in particular allows up to 6 custom images per location, and since you can set up multiple profiles for any one location anyway, there is basically no limit to the number of maps per location. Its wonderful being able to update a whole lot of locations in such detail in one go, something that would be very tedious via a browser. At this point though such apps cannot cope with any animated images, only small JPEGs (Xweather only up to 50kb, 4cast I think up to 60kb). Thus for radar images its impossible to get a sense of the directionality and speed of rain movements. Scott from xweather says he is looking into achieving access to gifs, but cant promise anything.

    It would be neat if it was possible to make the images that constitute an animated sequence accessible as individual JPEGs that could then be utilised in the image slots of the weather apps. One could then just scroll from image to image, getting the same overall information as from the gif animation itself. Do you know any way that this can be done? Or do you have access to images that would be suitable for this use?

    many thanks for all your very helpful continuing efforts!
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  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTiger View Post
    Russ,

    How about adding New Orleans to the list of cities.

    TIA
    TurboTiger

    ... Here Ya go ....
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/nwsfcstmsy1.html

    ALSO ... There is a new link defined on the Louisiana Radar sector marking New Orleans. Taping on the box will display the NWS forecast.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...imag_none.html

    ALSO ... The True Color (SAT) toggle is also active.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/modismsy1.html

    Have at it.
    Russ
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  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by PDAWX View Post
    TurboTiger

    ... Here Ya go ....
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/nwsfcstmsy1.html

    ALSO ... There is a new link defined on the Louisiana Radar sector marking New Orleans. Taping on the box will display the NWS forecast.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...imag_none.html

    ALSO ... The True Color (SAT) toggle is also active.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/modismsy1.html

    Have at it.
    Russ
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  9. #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by TRgEOff View Post
    Hi Russ,

    thx for update. I can think of one thing that would be very helpful for me, and other people too I guess. Several of the Palm weather apps now allow you to add in your own URLs for weather images. Xweather in particular allows up to 6 custom images per location, and since you can set up multiple profiles for any one location anyway, there is basically no limit to the number of maps per location. Its wonderful being able to update a whole lot of locations in such detail in one go, something that would be very tedious via a browser. At this point though such apps cannot cope with any animated images, only small JPEGs (Xweather only up to 50kb, 4cast I think up to 60kb). Thus for radar images its impossible to get a sense of the directionality and speed of rain movements. Scott from xweather says he is looking into achieving access to gifs, but cant promise anything.


    ---> Animation is a key feature with many weather displays. Whether you realize it or not your brain tends to extrapolate speed and direction, growth and decay of features and it gives you a hint of what to expect in the near future. I imagine that before too long the micro browsers on most cell phones will achieve this capibility.



    It would be neat if it was possible to make the images that constitute an animated sequence accessible as individual JPEGs that could then be utilised in the image slots of the weather apps. One could then just scroll from image to image, getting the same overall information as from the gif animation itself. Do you know any way that this can be done? Or do you have access to images that would be suitable for this use?

    ---> I do have the individual images for each animation saved on our server (as .GIFs). I have considered adding an IMAGE STEP function (progress through the images frame by frame).

    many thanks for all your very helpful continuing efforts!
    Thanks!
    Russ
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    Hi Russ

    Thanks for info! The Treo browser actually already handles the PAW animations perfectly. But my main goal is to be able to update all my weather images (or at least sets of them) with one click.

    I guess one way to achieve this on the Treo would be for me to set up a personal web page with the desired set of images inserted in it. I've started playing around with this approach and I notice that, with PAW images, I cant insert them, only links to them. Is this a case of needing permission for such?

    EDIT:I just tried this again and now there isnt any problem with inserting PAW images. Might have been some temporary glitch with the site I was adding stuff to. In any case please advise me on your policy for this type of use of your images. As mentioned above, any such site would only be for my personal edification only.

    cheers
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    Any chance for Chicago to be added Russ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franko515 View Post
    Any chance for Chicago to be added Russ?
    The forecast for Chicago is already in the PAW. Here is the link.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/nwsfcstord1.html

    Tap on 'Radar" at the top of the page to display the Northern Illinois sector
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...imag_none.html

    Tap on 'SAT' to get to the Latest True Color
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/modisord1.html

    Let me know if there is anything else.
    Russ
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    how about west palm beach fla?
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  14. #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by fkjr2 View Post
    how about west palm beach fla?
    Forecast for West Palm Beach has been added:
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/nwsfcstpbi1.html

    ALSO ... From the radar page tap on the box over PBI to show the forecast
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...imag_none.html

    ALSO ... There is a Model Output Statistic page. It shows numerous forecast parameters for the location (Temperature, Wind, Visibility, Thunderstorms,...) at (up to) 3hr intervals for the next 2 days.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/mosngmpbi1.html

    ALSO ... A True Color Satellite image of Southern Florida.
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/modispbi1.html

    BTW ... The True Color images are actually what you would see from a 80 mile high Polar Orbit. The satellite measures energy from the Red, Green and Blue range of the EMS and we combine them to create the images. As opposed to a False Color image that is constructed by overlaying the cloud field over an existing terrain image (like the PAW Cloud animations).

    Russ
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRgEOff View Post
    Hi Russ

    Thanks for info! The Treo browser actually already handles the PAW animations perfectly. But my main goal is to be able to update all my weather images (or at least sets of them) with one click.

    I guess one way to achieve this on the Treo would be for me to set up a personal web page with the desired set of images inserted in it. I've started playing around with this approach and I notice that, with PAW images, I cant insert them, only links to them. Is this a case of needing permission for such?

    EDIT:I just tried this again and now there isnt any problem with inserting PAW images. Might have been some temporary glitch with the site I was adding stuff to. In any case please advise me on your policy for this type of use of your images. As mentioned above, any such site would only be for my personal edification only.

    cheers



    There is a USAGE link on the MENU page of the PAW. That explains what we consider fair usage of the images and content. Just to make sure, I'll pass this question on to our webmaster and TC group.

    Russ
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    Wow, very nice! Can I get San Francisco???

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDAWX View Post

    ---> I do have the individual images for each animation saved on our server (as .GIFs). I have considered adding an IMAGE STEP function (progress through the images frame by frame).

    There is a USAGE link on the MENU page of the PAW. That explains what we consider fair usage of the images and content. Just to make sure, I'll pass this question on to our webmaster and TC group.
    Russ
    Thanks Russ,

    Yes the STEP function Im sure would be appreciated for any more complex maps. Its a pity that they dont have that for the otherwise fantastic animations of Dewpoint, Heat Index etc on WeatherUnderground. Im sure I would learn a lot about weather patterns then - but as they are now, there is way too much rapidly shifting information on those maps for my poor brain to cope with!

    I tested out your Google Gadget, and it works fine, not that I ever actually go to the home page!

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrel View Post
    Wow, very nice! Can I get San Francisco???

    dave
    San Francisco NWS Forecast:
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/nwsfcstsfo1.html

    You also have True Color Satellite (Latest View and Last Clear View), MOS and Toggle to radar image.

    Russ
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRgEOff View Post
    Thanks Russ,

    Yes the STEP function Im sure would be appreciated for any more complex maps. Its a pity that they dont have that for the otherwise fantastic animations of Dewpoint, Heat Index etc on WeatherUnderground. Im sure I would learn a lot about weather patterns then - but as they are now, there is way too much rapidly shifting information on those maps for my poor brain to cope with!

    I tested out your Google Gadget, and it works fine, not that I ever actually go to the home page!

    cheers
    Geoff,

    Are you refering to animations like this (TEMPERAURE)?
    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...anim_temp.html

    This is a synthetic image of temperature generated using the surface observations, extrapolating them to a gridded field and then interpolating the between the points to get a smooth continous (colorized) field.

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDAWX View Post
    Geoff,Are you refering to animations like this (TEMPERatURE)? http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/paw/us...anim_temp.html
    Russ
    Hehe, yours is a piece of cake compared to the ones on WU, e.g.

    http://www.wunderground.com/global/R...mperature.html

    As you can see the look up table is much more complex and to a certain extent counter-intuitive for higher temps. Also I'm a little color blind so the yellow-red for 80-85 is not sharply different from the pinky-red of 95-100, esp at the speed of the map changes!

    But even with one like yours I would still appreciate having a stepping option, at least until I get familiar with the pattern.

    The animated ones on WU dont work with the blazer browser, but they do supply the latest one as a still image, which does work. My project of creating a web page with selected images has gone pretty well. One limitation of the inbuilt Treo 650 browser is that it breaks up long pages into subsections. Nevertheless by keeping my images small enough, Ive got up to seven images on a single page. Thus in combination with the 6 images that I get via my XWeather India profile, Im now up to 13 images with two "clicks" as it were.

    cheers
    geoff

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