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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by Leke View Post
    Could nt have said it any better. People need to stop crying like little babies the problem is not with the device, but rather the USER! I've noticed that ppl have the most rediculous appplications installed on their device that have NOT been proven to be compatible yet. Menwhile they come crying on forums complaining about the device.

    BT is not an issue, freezing and resets are not issues with the device, it's the stupid software you have loaded thats the problem. Think of the device like a computer, you load some wacky software or virus and what happens to your pc, it starts acting weird right? Same thing with your 700P, only install software thats proven to work with the device and trust me you will have no problems....
    As I stated, out of the box, no 3rd party apps installed my Treo had bluetooth, reset, and lag issues.
    If it's all due to 3rd party apps, please explain why it happened to me out of the box.
    Now I have many 3rd party apps installed, and I also do a maintenance soft reset once a day, I don't have any problems to speak of lately.
    Last edited by pool_shark; 02/13/2007 at 12:51 PM.
  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by pool_shark View Post
    Although I understand your frustrations with the Treo bashing, I do not agree with your perception of the Treo.

    Without 3rd party products, my Treo was resetting when I was on a call and another call came in. It would lag when typing text messages, and the bluetooth would think it was connected and the headset on even though I couldn't use the head until I reset the Treo.

    The Treo is far from perfect, and people are very angry that Palm keeps coming out with new products without fixing the problems with the previous models.
    If you haven't had any problems, good for you, you have been lucky, but there are many 3rd party products that make the Treo a better phone than what it is out of the box.

    Later.

    You know what, I respect what you said entirely and I agree. Yeah I could be wrong that maybe Im just not having any problems but others could be having legit out of box issues. Okay, accepted. Have a great day, and keep on Treoing.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by Mort View Post
    I am a long time Palm user (15 + years). Have been through all of the Treos, including the 600, 650, now 700P (Sprint). I just received my 2nd replacement 700P (new, not refurb), a few weeks ago.
    I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITHOUT REMOVING THE BATTERY DUE TO A FREEZE AT LEAST ONCE. I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITH AT LEAST 2 SOFT RESETS FOR NO REASON.
    I am tired. Really tired. I don't bitc* on this board, but I think I have hit my limit. Why, oh why, can not the 700P be reliable?
    Please PALM, fix it, or I am afraid I will have to either jump off the Palm ship or kill myself----which ever comes first...............
    Could be worse....I HATE MY LIFE!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leke View Post
    Could nt have said it any better. People need to stop crying like little babies the problem is not with the device, but rather the USER! I've noticed that ppl have the most rediculous appplications installed on their device that have NOT been proven to be compatible yet. Menwhile they come crying on forums complaining about the device.

    BT is not an issue
    , freezing and resets are not issues with the device, it's the stupid software you have loaded thats the problem. Think of the device like a computer, you load some wacky software or virus and what happens to your pc, it starts acting weird right? Same thing with your 700P, only install software thats proven to work with the device and trust me you will have no problems....
    The mere fact that you even said this shows how incredibly little you know about this device. Bluetooth IS an issue. Even with palm's supposed "compatible headsets" it's still an issue.

    MANY users have started with a clean wipe of their 700p and still experience some lag, random resets when connected to a bluetooth headset, bluetooth disconnects, and unplayable (as in skippy or jerky) audio in almost any application.

    The fact that someone with a post count of 33 (at time of posting) who just joined less than a month ago is willing to call the entire forums of experienced treo users here stupid (implying that the user is the problem) is nothing short of asking to be flamed. I would carefully consider what you said in your post, you're going to **** many people off, including myself.
  5. #25  
    I get an error message when I try to delete chatterexg ( unable to delete ChatterExg.)
    Any suggestions
  6. #26  
    OK, maybe it's luck that I have had almost no problems with my 700p. I've been using Palm products for many many years, and this one is just fine. But there's something going on here, and I've said this before: there MUST be hardware differences in the phones that are being produced. There is no other explanation if out of the box phones cause problems that my well-stuffed Treo doesn't have at all. Some have said that there were chip problems in some units that caused the reset loop that didn't allow any hard resets, and these phones were replaced because of hardware issues. Logically, assuming people are being honest about their use of third party apps, there have to be hardware differences, or at a minimum, differences between vendors. It seems to me more Verizon people have problems, but there are more Verizons sold than Sprint, and some Sprint phones clearly have issues as well. I mean, let's think clearly about this....everyone has some issues with Bluetooth, but other than that, there is no consistent problem. I don't have any lag; I don't have white screen issues; I have had about one reset a month. There just have to be hardware differences.....
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by Christinac130 View Post
    Is the 700p actually worse than the 650 when it first came out?? The 650 was pretty buggy...
    No way. Its 100 times better than before the first 650 ROM update. Back when you only had 8 megs or real ram and tons of resets on the 650s.
    Pilot 1000 -> Pilot 5000 ->Palm Pilot Professional -> HP 620LX -> TRG Pro -> Palm V -> Palm Vx -> Palm M505 -> Palm i705 -> Palm Tungsten|T -> Samsung i500 -> Treo 600->Treo 650 -> Treo 600-> Treo 700p ->Centro ->Treo 800w + Redfly C8n -> Palm Pre -> HP Touchpad
    R.I.P Palm 1996-2011
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by rjmoose View Post
    Could be worse....I HATE MY LIFE!!!!
    I hope you're kidding, cause that's just sad...

    Quote Originally Posted by rc46 View Post
    No way. Its 100 times better than before the first 650 ROM update. Back when you only had 8 megs or real ram and tons of resets on the 650s.
    That's what I was wondering. The 650 was soooo bad when it was released, it took me months to get mine stable. Now, all I read is how happy everyone is with theirs. People are even going back to the 650 after giving up on the 700, 680 and 750 I have the 650 and the 680 and I love them both...
  9.    #29  
    BEGEEEEEBERS!!!!
    All I have to do is delete my 3rd party apps and my problem is fixed????
    Oh----wait a minute. I think I've been there and done that...........(I'm no newbee, newbee!)

    A Crying Baby I May Be,
    But My Treo Keeps-a Resetting On Me,
    But Alas, Two Times Today A Battery I Have Had to Remove;
    So Call Me Names If You Will,
    I'll Keep-a Using This Thing.....But Still,
    My Treo 700P Still Drives Me Crazy,
    So Come On Palm,
    Quit Being So Lazy...........(and FIX This Thing)
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    ^Mort, I am an old school user as well. I jumped and went to WM5 with a vx6700. yeah I gave up one handed navigating and had to learn a new OS, but I gained stability, no reset issues and I love the device. I even synced it to outlook of the box. It works on wifi with my home and work network and is STABLE. I have had no resets for the first month of use and have loaded a few third party software. A couple of themes and TOMTOM 6. Good luck with your decision.

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  11. #31  
    [QUOTE=Christinac130;1197699]I hope you're kidding, cause that's just sad...



    Kidding!!!!!!
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  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by rjmoose View Post

    Kidding!!!!!!
    Phew!
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by Mort View Post
    I am a long time Palm user (15 + years). Have been through all of the Treos, including the 600, 650, now 700P (Sprint). I just received my 2nd replacement 700P (new, not refurb), a few weeks ago.
    I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITHOUT REMOVING THE BATTERY DUE TO A FREEZE AT LEAST ONCE. I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITH AT LEAST 2 SOFT RESETS FOR NO REASON.
    I am tired. Really tired. I don't bitc* on this board, but I think I have hit my limit. Why, oh why, can not the 700P be reliable?
    Please PALM, fix it, or I am afraid I will have to either jump off the Palm ship or kill myself----which ever comes first...............


    Not sure what the issue is here, both my 650 (2 years) and and now my 700P have been rock solid. I do have the occassional lag coming out of Internet apps on the 700P . . . . . but no resets or battery pulling have been necessary. . . . . .

    In my mind, resets and freezing are either caused by a hardware issue or a software glitch that can be determined and rectified:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...22&postcount=5

    If you have done this and the behavior continues --- I am not sure what the issue is -- other than a 3rd party program that you have may not be stable. . . . . or possibly two 3rd party programs in combination. . . .

    Cheers, Perry
  14. #34  
    When I first got my Treo (upgrade from a T|X) I had a number of similar issues. I named my Treo the same as my T|X and did a sync so that all of my old apps and data would be loaded onto my new Treo. I had a lot of resets and really poor performance. So I did a hard reset and reloaded all the applications one at a time, I also looked for updates to all my 3rd party stuff before I loaded the app. Lastly, if you have a number of apps that are "listening" that is waiting to be activated by a key, or apps that are set to run at a specific time then your Treo will run slowly and crash more often. I alleviated some of that my scheduling things at odd times, like turn on phone at 6:55 5 minutes before my email wakes up. I still have restes and lags but they're fairly limited.
    Palm I >Palm IIIi>Palm 505> Zire 71>PEG37>T|X>TREO 700P That's a lot of palming!!
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    I also would be upset, but like many on here most have no problems or minor tweaks, I started with a 600 was rock solid after 2 years finally died and now on the 680, yea it has issues minor but irritating, but it sure beats the days when I had to carry a i-pod/cellphone/clie` plus all the chargers.
  16. #36  
    Quote Originally Posted by Mort View Post
    I am a long time Palm user (15 + years). Have been through all of the Treos, including the 600, 650, now 700P (Sprint). I just received my 2nd replacement 700P (new, not refurb), a few weeks ago.
    I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITHOUT REMOVING THE BATTERY DUE TO A FREEZE AT LEAST ONCE. I CAN NOT GO THROUGH A DAY WITH AT LEAST 2 SOFT RESETS FOR NO REASON.
    I am tired. Really tired. I don't bitc* on this board, but I think I have hit my limit. Why, oh why, can not the 700P be reliable?
    Please PALM, fix it, or I am afraid I will have to either jump off the Palm ship or kill myself----which ever comes first...............
    I'm with ya man. The 700p makes me feel like I've been taken in by a bunch of con artists and am being laughed at as a sucker ever since.

    They need to fix this crap and do it fast. One thing this phone shows me is that Palm and carriers like Verizon DO NOT care how we feel about the quality of these phones. All they care about is that we buy them. After that pfft, too bad, they'll have to upgrade later anyway.

    We're just statistics.

    From where I'm sitting these phones just have to be ripe for a class action lawsuit but I'm no lawyer and this is probably just wishful thinking.

    Palm/Verizon/whoever, get it together and fix these things. And next time don't build a "hybrid" Windows mobile/Palm device without putting disclaimers that say "the quality of your user experience may vary widely".
  17. #37  
    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden View Post
    Not sure what the issue is here, both my 650 (2 years) and and now my 700P have been rock solid. I do have the occassional lag coming out of Internet apps on the 700P . . . . . but no resets or battery pulling have been necessary. . . . . .

    In my mind, resets and freezing are either caused by a hardware issue or a software glitch that can be determined and rectified:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...22&postcount=5

    If you have done this and the behavior continues --- I am not sure what the issue is -- other than a 3rd party program that you have may not be stable. . . . . or possibly two 3rd party programs in combination. . . .

    Cheers, Perry
    I have to rebuild pretty much every other day, more so if I have a lot of email coming in or if I try to use just about ANY mainstream app like Worldmate. My most common reason for having to reset is because I charged overnight.

    I don't buy that the problem is third party apps. Sure they may be "unstable" but I'd bet a lot that the instability is due to the "hybrid" hardware design they foisted on us with the 700p. It runs very very poorly compared to my 650, which my father is currently using, including phone/email and gps... and guess what, the year he's had the 650 he's not had to rebuild ONE TIME. I on the other hand have to rebuild ALL the time. That's not an app problem that's a hardware and OS problem. Or if it IS an app problem it's due to the apps provided from Palm and Verizon, including the OS and Wireless Sync apps. All of which are their responsibility just like the hardware quality.

    Anyway supposedly there's a patch in the works (been one in the works for months and months with no direct feedback was to when it is due, go figure). So we'll see. I'm not holding my breath. I just think we've been fleeced.
  18. #38  
    Quote Originally Posted by SantiagoDraco View Post
    I have to rebuild pretty much every other day, more so if I have a lot of email coming in or if I try to use just about ANY mainstream app like Worldmate. My most common reason for having to reset is because I charged overnight.

    I don't buy that the problem is third party apps. Sure they may be "unstable" but I'd bet a lot that the instability is due to the "hybrid" hardware design they foisted on us with the 700p. It runs very very poorly compared to my 650, which my father is currently using, including phone/email and gps... and guess what, the year he's had the 650 he's not had to rebuild ONE TIME. I on the other hand have to rebuild ALL the time. That's not an app problem that's a hardware and OS problem. Or if it IS an app problem it's due to the apps provided from Palm and Verizon, including the OS and Wireless Sync apps. All of which are their responsibility just like the hardware quality.

    Anyway supposedly there's a patch in the works (been one in the works for months and months with no direct feedback was to when it is due, go figure). So we'll see. I'm not holding my breath. I just think we've been fleeced.
    Don't forget, it ain't isolated to Verizon, us Sprint folks are having the same exact issues.
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    #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D View Post
    The mere fact that you even said this shows how incredibly little you know about this device. Bluetooth IS an issue. Even with palm's supposed "compatible headsets" it's still an issue.

    MANY users have started with a clean wipe of their 700p and still experience some lag, random resets when connected to a bluetooth headset, bluetooth disconnects, and unplayable (as in skippy or jerky) audio in almost any application.

    The fact that someone with a post count of 33 (at time of posting) who just joined less than a month ago is willing to call the entire forums of experienced treo users here stupid (implying that the user is the problem) is nothing short of asking to be flamed. I would carefully consider what you said in your post, you're going to **** many people off, including myself.

    I could care less who I **** off I'm not the one crying here about lag, resets and BT issues. I agree that maybe there are some out of box hardware issues with some devices. But majority of everyone that complain have many 3rd party software that are pointless and wonder why their device acts up.
  20. #40  
    Quote Originally Posted by Leke View Post
    I could care less who I **** off I'm not the one crying here about lag, resets and BT issues. I agree that maybe there are some out of box hardware issues with some devices. But majority of everyone that complain have many 3rd party software that are pointless and wonder why their device acts up.
    Read through the countless threads over the past few months on each of these bugs as they crop up and you'll realize a hard reset was the first thing that was suggested and tried to get rid of it, thus eliminating the hypothesis that it was 3rd party software. If the bug still exists after a hard reset, the problem is either on the firmware or the hardware. Since so many people have this problem, and given that the bluetooth on the 700wx is not having these issues, it seems pretty obvious that it's the firmware. Why? Because palm already admitted that except for the screen, the hardware between the 700wx and 700p is shared.
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