Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 22
  1.    #1  
    Hi -

    Been lurking for years and never posted till now because for the most part, I've found everything else I needed on the boards. Put down the flame throwers, I'm a big fan of the "seach" function.

    Anyway, there have been a couple of threads out there about the Treo iPod connectivity, but no real answers. The Treo is relatively the same size as the uber iPods and with that in mind, why hasn't anyone come up with an adapter that fits onto our Treo's to allow us to use the MANY iPod accessories (speakers, clock radios, car mounts, etc.)? Everytime I see one of these speaker setups, I always whip out my Treo and place it into the iPod slot and say to myself, "Wouldn't it be cool..."

    I'm no electrical engineer, but I would think that with a map of the Treo and iPod pinouts there would be a solution out there somewhere or at least sufficient reason to begin looking into this?

    Anyone????
  2. #2  
    Interesting idea, now if it can only be done.
  3. #3  
    Mapping the power and audio pins would be trivial enough..... but I wonder what programming needs to be done on the Treo to communicate with the dock. Apple likes to keep things proprietary.
  4.    #4  
    As it stands right now, there is only one docking station/speaker system for the Treo but there a lot more out there fore the iPod. A quick search on the internet delivers the following:

    iPod Pinout: http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml

    Treo Pinout: http://pinouts.ru/PDA/palm_treo650_pinout.shtml

    This should be a start for someone. BTW... if someone takes this idea, all I want is a lifetime supply plus points on total sales.
  5. #5  
    Seidio? Hello? If it's an accessory for a Treo, Seidio will do it.
  6. #6  
    I expect you'd be better off emulating the SD card pinout. You'd need a FAT32-flashed rom to work it, and then a program to access the ipod's screwy filesystem... and it would only work with PC-formatted ipods. :/
    In Socialist Empire, tired joke laughs at YOU!
  7.    #7  
    The only thing that I'm looking to dock with are the various speaker setups, clock radios, boom boxes and possibly the portable video screens. I may be missing something here (don't own an iPod) but isn't it just a matter of power, video (in/out, r/l), audio (in/out, r/l)? Just looking for the basics.

    I apologize ahead of time if I overlooked some huge technological gap between the Treo and iPod. (which may be the main reason why someone hasn't done it yet.)
  8.    #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by Tastypeppers View Post
    Seidio? Hello? If it's an accessory for a Treo, Seidio will do it.

    Good idea, didn't even think of them. Just PM'ed them.
  9. #9  
    I've asked Seidio about this a few times over the past few months, but it seemed like they were always working on on-going projects (many of which have been released recently). I bet they can do it.
    A new Avatar to commemorate Silly Season.
  10. #10  
    Seidio Do It!!
  11. rpungin's Avatar
    Posts
    87 Posts
    Global Posts
    90 Global Posts
    #11  
    I bet Apple copywrited the pinouts on ipod and does not allow anyone else to make devices with these pinouts.
  12. vinman's Avatar
    Posts
    443 Posts
    Global Posts
    586 Global Posts
    #12  
    Seems to me that in a discussion a year or longer back we all figured out the Treo doesn't output sound through it's proprietary "pin out" connection - only through BlueTooth and the headphone jack. Maybe they've changed that since the 650, but since the basic architecture is the same, it seems unlikely. It would be great if someone would make a mini-usb to iPod adapter, too for all of us with non-Treo devices. I'm pretty sure WM5 (and later) devices are capable of outputting sound through the connector?
    Former long term user of the Treo line, then on to the HTC 8125/8525. Now I have graduated to the iPhone. For the first time since getting my first Treo 600, I am not constantly scanning the web looking for a better converged device.
  13. rpungin's Avatar
    Posts
    87 Posts
    Global Posts
    90 Global Posts
    #13  
    Quote Originally Posted by vinman View Post
    Seems to me that in a discussion a year or longer back we all figured out the Treo doesn't output sound through it's proprietary "pin out" connection - only through BlueTooth and the headphone jack.
    Untrue, it does. This is why there is this adapter:
    http://store.treocentral.com/store_i.../large/634.jpg
    http://store.treocentral.com/content...73-75--634.htm
  14. #14  
    Quote Originally Posted by rpungin View Post
    you beat me to it!

    Also as to the point earlier about Apple not giving out the pinouts. If they dont than how are all those speaker docking stations made?

    Seems the pinouts would be common knowledge for those who would need it and know where/how to find it.
    ONE can be spelled as NEO.
    There is no spoon.
  15.    #15  
    Quote Originally Posted by Hdhntr23 View Post
    Seems the pinouts would be common knowledge for those who would need it and know where/how to find it.
    ^bump

    here's what I found on the web. Not sure how accurate but it seems that all of the info is here.

    iPod Pinout: http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml

    Treo Pinout: http://pinouts.ru/PDA/palm_treo650_pinout.shtml
  16. #16  
    That Would Be Awesome I Have Done A Little Testing On The Treo And The Pinout Seems Correct. I Ave Been Searching And Searching For An Adapter So I Can Control The Treo With My Cd Player.

    Ya Seidio Could Do It If They Wanted To. I Know I Would Buy One In A Second If They Did That

    The Adapter I Think Would Be Easy To Build But I Have Zero Experience With Programing.
    If Somebody Could Make The Programing Work I Could Build The Adapter.
  17. TRgEOff's Avatar
    Posts
    589 Posts
    Global Posts
    591 Global Posts
    #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by rpungin View Post
    Untrue, it does. This is why there is this adapter:

    http://store.treocentral.com/content...73-75--634.htm

    ...what the Treo's Athena connector doesn't output though is....video

    cheers
    geoff

    Treo 650 1.20 LAP.
  18. fredd0's Avatar
    Posts
    70 Posts
    Global Posts
    114 Global Posts
    #18  
    all i want is this http://www.alteclansing.com/images/IMT1.jpgfor my 755p.
  19. #19  
    As I understand it, companies that use the iPod connector need to pay royalties to Apple. I wonder how the economics of paying Apple for a device that will not be used on their product plays on the decision to build such adapter.
  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by cvela90 View Post
    As I understand it, companies that use the iPod connector need to pay royalties to Apple. I wonder how the economics of paying Apple for a device that will not be used on their product plays on the decision to build such adapter.
    Im not saying youre right or wrong but if the unit we are connecting to isnt an apple unit (either the Treo or the accessory) I dont see how Apple has a leg to stand on. Now if someone were to market it with the IPod logo or name than yes.

    But say some creative marketing genious said something like "this connects your Treo to the most popular mp3 player in the worlds accessories"

    I think most people would get the gist.

    On the other hand it might be a fine line to walk and Apple has huge pockets.
    ONE can be spelled as NEO.
    There is no spoon.
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions