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  1.    #1  
    Hello everyone.

    Not sure if this belongs in the 680 forum or the general forum, so I am posting it on the 680 forum. If that is incorrect, please let me know.

    I am considering getting a Treao 680 to replace my current PDA/phone equipment. I currently have a Zire 72 (silver) and a Sony Ericcson z525a. If I get a Treo, it is not because of any need or anything, but just because I think they are cool, and it would combine two devices into one.

    I have read a number of reviews, and most of the shortcomings of the Treo seem fine. For example, I don't really care that it only has a VGA camera (although a megapixel or something would be nice). I have a digital camera, and if I want pictures, I will use that.

    However, I have some questions and concerns that I am not sure about, and I wanted to hear some other user input.

    What are the major differences in terms of software/use between my unit (the Zire 72) and the Treo 680? Would there be a big learning curve, or is everything pretty much the same?

    From reading various user comments, the battery life seems to be the biggest concern right now. I don't really want to get a phone I have to charge everyday. I have read some indications that after some charge/regcharge cycles, the life gets better. Is this accurate? Is there a fix in the works from Palm about the battery, so it might be worthwhile waiting?

    Are there other bugs and problems that I should be concerned about? I have read from some users about the Treo 680 rebooting a lot - is that a major concern?

    How difficult is it to upgrade from a Palm Zire to a Treo (and keep contacts and such)? PReviously I would just install the new software, but I am not sure if there is a difference with the new "system" (a phone).

    How compatible would my applications and software be? I already read that the wifi card I have would be useless (damn) but I also have a Palm GPS unit (the hockey puck GPS receiver and TomTom 5). Would that, and other software, be compatible?

    I am also used to using Graffiti on my Zire, but I read that the Treo's don't have graffiti built in. Is there some work around for this, or is it simply a case of having to learn to use the keyboard?

    I read that while the Treo 680 doesn't support MP3 ringtones by itself, there is a workaround for it. How difficult is that?

    One thing I wasn't clear about was voice activated dialing. Do you need to buy special software for that to work with the Treo 680?

    Since I don't have an urgent need to get a Treo 680, does anyone know if there is another Treo in the works that will be released in 2007? (Say, one that has built in wifi or a better camera). While I would like to get one, I can always wait if need be.

    Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. I want to stick with the Palm OS for my first smartphone, and the Treo 680 seems to be the only choice (unless I go with an older 650 or something). Basically I am just trying to figure out if I should get one now, of if it would be worthwhile to wait (either for a new Treo to come out, or for the bugs in this one to get fixed).

    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjvitek View Post
    ...How difficult is it to upgrade from a Palm Zire to a Treo (and keep contacts and such)? PReviously I would just install the new software, but I am not sure if there is a difference with the new "system" (a phone).

    How compatible would my applications and software be?...
    Hi Chris, welcome to TC!

    I recommend that you read the stickies at the top of the 680 forum, especially, Upgrade Path -- Prior PalmOS Device to Treo 680.
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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    Thanks for the link. I saw that, but that appeared to be for previous Treo's to a newer Treo - is it the same for non-Treo Palms?

    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjvitek View Post
    Thanks for the link. I saw that, but that appeared to be for previous Treo's to a newer Treo - is it the same for non-Treo Palms?

    Chris
    Even more so.
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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    It's a very seamless transition from palms to Treos. A good majority of your applications can be beamed over. I think they try to make it as easy as possible. Welcome to the land of Treo.
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    Do not beam any applications from the Z72 until you have verified they are compatible. List at palmfocus.com.
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    I don't have a 680 (I have 700p), but a few things I recall reading about the battery:
    1) People say 680 battery life gets more tolerable after use. (Out of box,it is very bad.
    2) Sedio will eventually come out with an extended battery (but they seem to be having problems getting this done, so maybe you might want to wait until they do before buying 680 (if this is really important to you).
    3) Maybe you could just buy a 2nd regular Palm battery and switch halfway through the day.

    Otherwise, according to the specs, I think the 680 is a really nice phone for the price.
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    Thanks for the replies and comments!

    One more question. Is there any reason to get a unlocked Treo 680 rather than a Cingualr one, other than color? Other than simply being locked to Cingular, they are exactly the same, right?

    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjvitek View Post
    Thanks for the replies and comments!

    One more question. Is there any reason to get a unlocked Treo 680 rather than a Cingualr one, other than color? Other than simply being locked to Cingular, they are exactly the same, right?

    Chris
    Yes.
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    I'm not sure they're exactly the same. Take a look at this thread:http://discussion.treocentral.com/tc...d.php?t=131154. This seems to be solely a Cingular issue.
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    Hmmm....so the question I guess is, does that happen with Cingular branded phones, or as a function of the cingular service (regardless if you have a cingular phone or unlocked one). I have cingular service, so I will have that no matter what.

    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjvitek View Post
    Hmmm....so the question I guess is, does that happen with Cingular branded phones, or as a function of the cingular service (regardless if you have a cingular phone or unlocked one). I have cingular service, so I will have that no matter what.

    Chris
    I honestly don't know the answer to your question, although it may be in that thread somewhere. I have an unlocked 680, into which I put my T-Mobile sim card.
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    Reading the thread seems to indicate that the problem might be with the sim card. That makes me more nervous about getting an unlocked one, since I will have an older sim card to put in.

    I can get the CIngular phone for $299 (I am not eligable to upgrade so I can't get the big discount, but I can get the phone through my work place for my account), or I can by the unlocked for $350. I am leaning towards the Cingular one just to save $50, but I am not sure. If I get the unlocked, do I have to tell Cingular or anything, or do I just put my sim card in the phone?

    Chris
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    I never told T-Mobile anything, I just put my sim card in and was good to go. I would assume it's the same with Cingular, but I believe there are a lot of threads here and at mytreo.net dealing with this type of issue and whether there are any setup issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjvitek View Post
    I can get the Cingular phone for $299 (I am not eligible to upgrade so I can't get the big discount, but I can get the phone through my work place for my account)
    Have you been with Cingular for long? I put the pressure on them due to my being a LONG time Cingular guy and got the $100 rebate on my phone when I wasn't eligible for an upgrade.

    worth a shot
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    I am currently a Cingular customer, and have been with Cingular for over 3 or 4 years. I just upgraded my phone about 6 months ago.

    Chris

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