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  1. #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by tcc View Post
    I tried it and it definitely gets the Treo 680 through the day. BUT...my 680 had a lousy time reading the voltages from the 650's 2400 battery. The 680 kept thinking the 2400 battery was out of juice half-way through the day, and would keep pestering me about a low battery until it would finally force a shut-down (even though the extended battery still held a charge). I'd have to remove the battery and put it back in for the phone to recognize that there was still a charge in it. This would happen a couple of times a day.

    It was such a pain that I went back to using the 680's slim battery. I wonder if I have a defective battery or phone. The 680 doesn't have problems reading the voltage of the slim battery, nor does the 650 have problems reading the voltage of the extended battery.
    I've quoted TCC again because I thought his problems had adequately explained the situation. We saw the exact same problems when we put our 700 battery into the new 680. We obviously couldn't sell it as compatible when the Treo doesn't recognize how much battery is left and turns off the phone. We then proceeded to create a battery that would work completely with the Treo 680. If a person wants to try the old battery it may technically charge and turn on your phone, but we can't in good conscience sell it as a compatible product.
  2. #62  
    Quote Originally Posted by bruckwine View Post
    A VERY good question - asked this before and got no response. if that IS the case and it's the firmware the extended battery is just a patch until Palm releases and update.

    If the battery makes the phone behave like say the 650 using the same 2400 mAh then it's the original 680 batteries that are bad - cause for a massive recall maybe? This will be a very important piece of info esp when ppl decide whether to buy another battery and what kind.....
    I can't speculate on Palm's firmware problems, but if our battery has twice as much power it will last much longer regardless of any software glitches. The OEM battery is only 1200mAh which is very small for any Smartphone. Many people demand more power out of their phone and those are our battery customers.
  3. #63  
    Quote Originally Posted by seidioseidio View Post
    You couldn't be farther from the truth. This is in no way a scam on our part. The new 680 and 750 are simply not fully compatible with our old battery. Since we know this, it wouldn't be good business for us to sell a door for a battery that isn't supposed to be in there anyway.
    No I think I hit the nail right on the head. Go back and read my message. It would be good business for you to not focus on a silly battery door (intending to move old product) in the first place. You should be focusing on a form-factor fitting battery so that we dont have to spend money twice on the same product.
    -tgwaste
  4. #64  
    Quote Originally Posted by tgwaste View Post
    No I think I hit the nail right on the head. Go back and read my message. It would be good business for you to not focus on a silly battery door (intending to move old product) in the first place. You should be focusing on a form-factor fitting battery so that we dont have to spend money twice on the same product.
    Actually, maybe you should read seidios posts as well as others which indicate that the 650 compatible battery does not perform correctly in the 680. They (seidio) will likely focus on what pleases the largest number of customers in the shortest period of time... i hope. I too had hoped to use the extended 650 battery in my 680, but will not if it causes me to have difficulties reading battery levels and operating the unit.
  5. #65  
    Quote Originally Posted by abarrios View Post
    I purchased a 2400ma 650 battery from Seidio not 8 weeks ago, you mean to tell me that is not compatible with the 680? Funny because if I also put in the other two 650 batteries I own (original that came w/ my 650 & the Mugen) they both work perfectly in my 680, for the exception of the door.
    How long did you run the 680 with the 650 batteries in the 680? The earlier posts indicated that the batteries would indeed run the 680, but the battery levels would not be read correctly resulting in premature shutdown of the unit.
  6. #66  
    Quote Originally Posted by tgwaste View Post
    No I think I hit the nail right on the head. Go back and read my message. It would be good business for you to not focus on a silly battery door (intending to move old product) in the first place. You should be focusing on a form-factor fitting battery so that we dont have to spend money twice on the same product.
    You don't HAVE to do anything. No one is making you buy two batteries. Everyone needs to get off Seidio's case and let them make batteries. It is ultimately up to you the consumer that determines what you buy and when you buy it. And so what if they are trying to move old inventory. If they don't, and end up eating that cost everytime something new comes out, then they won't be around much longer to make us the batteries we need for the next Palm devise that comes out with a crappy battery.
  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee View Post
    How long did you run the 680 with the 650 batteries in the 680? The earlier posts indicated that the batteries would indeed run the 680, but the battery levels would not be read correctly resulting in premature shutdown of the unit.
    Truthfully other than confirmation of powering up and jumping through a few programs, that was the extent of my testing. I travel alot & need more battery life out of my treo. If my 2400ma Seidio 650 battery is going to buy me a few more hours, I am going to use it. Good point though jaytee, some thing else to be aware of. Thanks.
    Visor Deluxe (Ice), Platinum (Black), Prism w/ Visor Fone, treo 270, treo 600, Unlocked GSM Pa1mOne branded treo 650, Palm branded Unlocked treo 680 (graphite), UBiQUiO 503g, & now HTC TyTNII TMO
  8. #68  
    Quote Originally Posted by tgwaste View Post
    No I think I hit the nail right on the head. Go back and read my message. It would be good business for you to not focus on a silly battery door (intending to move old product) in the first place. You should be focusing on a form-factor fitting battery so that we dont have to spend money twice on the same product.
    Seidio - unlike some people on this site, the majority of us are glad to see a company other than Palm trying to reslove the battery issue.
    tgwaste - if you are so upset about it, don't buy a battery from them and wait for Palm to come out with a fix. And maybe by the time Palm comes out with a fix, you'll probably be able to buy next years 690.
    I for one have made purchases from Seidio - sorry bud, no scam! No i haven't bought a 2400 battery, I will wait for the slim battery version, but i know 3 friends that have due to them being power users. That is who this battery was made for!
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    #69  
    David @ Seidio:

    Off Topic...

    If I'm going to add some extra width to my Treo anyway, why don't I go all the way

    I'm wondering if you guys will introduce an even larger battery? like a 3600 mAH one? that would be awsome for even more power user like me.
  10. #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by jaytee View Post
    Actually, maybe you should read seidios posts as well as others which indicate that the 650 compatible battery does not perform correctly in the 680. They (seidio) will likely focus on what pleases the largest number of customers in the shortest period of time... i hope. I too had hoped to use the extended 650 battery in my 680, but will not if it causes me to have difficulties reading battery levels and operating the unit.

    actually.. maybe you should read mine. i never mention 650 batteries ONCE.
    -tgwaste
  11. #71  
    Quote Originally Posted by aaronchow View Post
    David @ Seidio:

    Off Topic...

    If I'm going to add some extra width to my Treo anyway, why don't I go all the way

    I'm wondering if you guys will introduce an even larger battery? like a 3600 mAH one? that would be awsome for even more power user like me.
    Not sure...I was thinking more along the lines of an 18000mAh battery. It would come with a nice backpack that would double as a carrying case for your Treo!
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    #72  
    funny.
    if i want to have a little hump on my treo 680, can seidio release the largest possible capacity for the battery?
    i'm NOT addicted to palm devices. can you give me my treo now?
  13. #73  
    Quote Originally Posted by tgwaste View Post
    actually.. maybe you should read mine. i never mention 650 batteries ONCE.
    true enough... my error. I stand corrected.
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    #74  
    Any update on when a standard size "slim" extended battery for the 680 may be available from Seidio?

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  15. #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by brad_h View Post
    I'm still wondering 2 things:
    1. How much thicker does this make the 680, in mm?
    2. Would the "humpback" aftermarket cover hold the OEM 1200 mAh battery in place? If I buy the 2400 mAh battery, I'll still want to carry the 1200 mAh as a secondary (I'm a road warrior, flying weekly), but does that mean I'd have to carry the OEM battery cover also? Or maybe just a piece of foam to put under the humpback cover?

    For now (and especially lacking any real details on Seidio's site other than "It's thicker. Battery cover included!"), I'm holding out for a higher-capacity battery that's the same as the OEM's thickness (6 mm, right?), to maintain the slim, sleek, sexy form.

    Yes, me too. waiting for a higher-capacity battery that's the same as OEM thickness. So any news from Seidio on this yet??
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    No Comment from Seidio on a slim size extended battery for the 680?
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  17. #77  
    Quote Originally Posted by seidioseidio View Post
    We regret to inform you that there was a delay on our initial shipment of Treo 680 batteries and we will not have them for a few weeks. We are also hoping to have multiple colored doors available at that time. We apologize for the inconvenience and will let you know as soon as they're available.
    Since I'm thinking that Palm really has a hardware issue with the 680 and its battery life, and that its not really a battery problem per se, I'm wondering how well you have documented the life of your new battery in the 680? Your site now says "100 percent" more battery power, but 100% more than WHAT? What Palm states you get, or what we all have really been getting? Just curious...
  18. #78  
    Uhhh, I don't claim killer math skills, but a 2400mah unit is 100% increase over the OEM 1200mah version. As a victim of government education, I can't be sure tho.

    BTW. Seidio, thanks for coming to the forum. If I may, I apologize that you had to endure the infantile and borderline ignorant treatment by a few here. I'm glad to see the upgraded offering, and am waiting expectantly for a larger capacity with normal fit.
    Patrick Horne
  19. #79  
    We are still working on a slim battery that fits in the same housing. It will be available soon, but I don't have an exact date yet.
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