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  1. kmorris's Avatar
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    Hey All,

    Like many of you, I've purchased an unlocked 680 from Palm and am currently waiting in anticipation!

    I plan on setting up my Gmail account so I can have my email on the go and would really like PUSH email - am currently using a blackberry which I'm selling to my uncle and LOVE instant email.

    Any suggestions for how to go about doing this? If only Gmail offered IMAP support. But they don't! I've heard Fastmail isn't too reliable these days.

    Please let me know how best to get PUSH with Gmail. Obviously, the less expensive route, the better.

    TIA
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    There have been a couple of hiccups with Fastmail....but overall, very good and you can't beat the price.

    My Gmail is forwarded to Fastmail and works great with ChatterEmail IMAP
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    Fusemail (www.fusemail.com) is a good choice as well. I recently switched from Fastmail and I've found the service to be excellent. The customer service is excellent at fusemail - they email you back almost immediately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambtreo View Post
    Fusemail (www.fusemail.com) is a good choice as well. I recently switched from Fastmail and I've found the service to be excellent. The customer service is excellent at fusemail - they email you back almost immediately!
    Thanks. I checked out site and to be honest it's a bit overwhelming...guess I'd need the plan that's $19.96/yr? Like I mentioned, this is just for IMAP support for my Gmail account. How would I know how to configure everything on the Treo? Do you use versamail for this?
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    To use IMAP at its full potential you need ChatterEmail on a Palm OS device. There are some excellent IMAP providers and there are some that are not so excellent. Google is not an IMAP provider. To get it "pushed" to you, you must forward your Gmail account to an IMAP provider that supports "push," such as Fastmail (I pay for their service), Everyone.net (I pay for their service, having Fastmail forward to Everyone.net), Fusemail, et cetera. AOL provides IMAP/push, and my wife is using it, though it's implimentation is not for one who has to keep mail on a server for an extended period of time.

    Ben
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    If you use chatteremail do you still need xpress mail?
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    try chattermail with aol
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    bclinger,

    How did you set up AOL to puch your wife's emails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by treoposer View Post
    If you use chatteremail do you still need xpress mail?
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    The wife did this - she went to the AOL website and selected the IMAP feature, then I started ChatterEmail, and created a new mail box using Mark's AOL IMAP definition. She then went to her POP accounts and set them to forward to the AOL IMAP account. Worked as if it was mean to. Ben
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    The wife did this - she went to the AOL website and selected the IMAP feature, then I started ChatterEmail, and created a new mail box using Mark's AOL IMAP definition. She then went to her POP accounts and set them to forward to the AOL IMAP account. Worked as if it was mean to. Ben

    Ben, is there a charge for the AOL IMAP use? I read your previous email mentioning that you use fastmail and another service that you pay for, for IMAP functionality. I'm still wondering what's best/easiest in regards to getting PUSH with my Gmail account. Sounds like Chatter is the way to go but I still need to figure out what's going to be the easiest route in forwarding my Gmail. THANKS!

    p.s. SO JEALOUS you're in Honolulu! My husband and I visited for the first time in September and stayed in Waikiki....just incredible! Paradise IT IS!
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    No, it is free on AOL, though there is a space limitation. My wife does not depend on IMAP as I do, it is a necessity for me, as the company I work for makes extensive use of email. The company owner, myself and another company employee use convergent devices (the owner and the other employee use BlackBerry and I of course use a Treo 700p). Everyone else gets their email when they are in the office. Anyway, the AOL implimentation suits the wife as she does not believe her needs require a paid account.

    Forwarding your email to an IMAP server makes sense. I started with Fastmail a couple of years ago and switched to Everyone.net only because of no Fastmail service for four days. When I switched to Everyone.net I sent out notifications and about half of the people changed my email, the rest did not. At that point, I decided to keep them both active. So now, anything that hits the Fastmail server is forwarded to the Everyone.net server. I use the Gmail Java application to occasionally check my Gmail account. I recently left Yahoo! Plus when I finally took the time to compare it to Gmail. If you are a heavy email user or require your mail to be available for an extended period of time, then a paid IMAP account may be a better answer. Throughout the day I move mail received on my Everyone.net account to off-line folders as needed and at the end of the day review those I deleted while working.

    Ben

    Quote Originally Posted by kmorris View Post
    Ben, is there a charge for the AOL IMAP use? I read your previous email mentioning that you use fastmail and another service that you pay for, for IMAP functionality. I'm still wondering what's best/easiest in regards to getting PUSH with my Gmail account. Sounds like Chatter is the way to go but I still need to figure out what's going to be the easiest route in forwarding my Gmail. THANKS!

    p.s. SO JEALOUS you're in Honolulu! My husband and I visited for the first time in September and stayed in Waikiki....just incredible! Paradise IT IS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    No, it is free on AOL, though there is a space limitation. My wife does not depend on IMAP as I do, it is a necessity for me, as the company I work for makes extensive use of email. The company owner, myself and another company employee use convergent devices (the owner and the other employee use BlackBerry and I of course use a Treo 700p). Everyone else gets their email when they are in the office. Anyway, the AOL implimentation suits the wife as she does not believe her needs require a paid account.

    Forwarding your email to an IMAP server makes sense. I started with Fastmail a couple of years ago and switched to Everyone.net only because of no Fastmail service for four days. When I switched to Everyone.net I sent out notifications and about half of the people changed my email, the rest did not. At that point, I decided to keep them both active. So now, anything that hits the Fastmail server is forwarded to the Everyone.net server. I use the Gmail Java application to occasionally check my Gmail account. I recently left Yahoo! Plus when I finally took the time to compare it to Gmail. If you are a heavy email user or require your mail to be available for an extended period of time, then a paid IMAP account may be a better answer. Throughout the day I move mail received on my Everyone.net account to off-line folders as needed and at the end of the day review those I deleted while working.

    Ben

    Thanks for the explanation. I actually don't need mobile access to my work email at all...which is why I just want my Gmail account (personal) configured. I'm currently set up with this account on my Blackberry.

    It's making sense now. For my needs, I actually think that AOL would be OK, as I don't need much storage at all. Any idea what AOL's limit is? I'll have to check them out. My question is, when my Gmail is forwarded to AOL/my Treo, will I be able to respond to emails and have them appear as coming from my Gmail account to the recipient? With the forwarding and all, will there be any delay in receiving them on the Treo? Do your wife's emails come through instantly?

    Sorry for so many questions but this is such a help! Can't wait for that 680 to arrive!
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    The Treo gives you the ability of choosing the SMTP or system you want to send from. On my device I have configured my Gmail account, a Yahoo account, a Fastmail account and an Everyone.net account. At the bottom of the reply screen is a drop down that allows you to select which server to respond from - it works really well - my problem is that sometimes I fail to select the right server....You will have to pay attention to where it comes from.

    As for delays, from time to time, but nothing long. It is about 5 or so seconds at the most for me with Fastmail and Everyone.net. When I was testing my wife's AOL setup, a message sent from my laptop or my Treo 700p hit her 650 in about five seconds - not bad at all.

    Do you have a Treo at this time? If so, set it up there and see what happens - the results are good.

    Ben



    Quote Originally Posted by kmorris View Post
    It's making sense now. For my needs, I actually think that AOL would be OK, as I don't need much storage at all. Any idea what AOL's limit is? I'll have to check them out. My question is, when my Gmail is forwarded to AOL/my Treo, will I be able to respond to emails and have them appear as coming from my Gmail account to the recipient? With the forwarding and all, will there be any delay in receiving them on the Treo? Do your wife's emails come through instantly?

    Sorry for so many questions but this is such a help! Can't wait for that 680 to arrive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    The Treo gives you the ability of choosing the SMTP or system you want to send from. On my device I have configured my Gmail account, a Yahoo account, a Fastmail account and an Everyone.net account. At the bottom of the reply screen is a drop down that allows you to select which server to respond from - it works really well - my problem is that sometimes I fail to select the right server....You will have to pay attention to where it comes from.

    As for delays, from time to time, but nothing long. It is about 5 or so seconds at the most for me with Fastmail and Everyone.net. When I was testing my wife's AOL setup, a message sent from my laptop or my Treo 700p hit her 650 in about five seconds - not bad at all.

    Do you have a Treo at this time? If so, set it up there and see what happens - the results are good.

    Ben

    I'm currently using a Blackberry 8700g through T-Mobile (am selling to my uncle) but have ordered my 680. The set-up you described sounds great. I'll have to give it a shot. So you're sure that even with AOL, I can select my Gmail account as the server to 'send from' when writing an email?

    As far as settings to use with Chattermail (will have to purchase this when my 680 arrives) if I go with AOL, will Marc provide these? I checked his site but couldn't find any examples. Guess it would make sense for me to first purchase the program in order to have him provide the settings!
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    When you set up a new mail acct in Chatter, an AOL act is one of the preconfigured choices. So the answer is YES.
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    It goes from Gmail to AOL - the sent from address is still going to remain the same - just pay attention to whom the bell tolls and select the appropriate profile at the bottom of the reply screen in Chatter. Also, ChatterEmail has built in it profiles for many of the major providers. Basic setup is really only a few minutes of work - you must know your user name, email address and password and ChatterEmail does the rest. In addition, Mark provides excellent support. The test drive release of ChatterEmail is exactly the same as the paid for release - set it up, play and buy.
    When you select the Gmail account to respond with, ChatterEmail uses the SMTP profile of Gmail to respond with. All you have to do is define the servers/mail boxes and then select the appropriate one to respond with. A time or two and it becomes 5th nature.

    Since you will be new to the device, look at installing a good installation monitoring program (Uninstall Monitor - http://www.northglide.com), a good device based program (Resco Backup - http://resco.net/palm/backup/default.asp), Reset Doctor (http://www.hobbyistsoftware.com/reset-doctor-more.php), Butler (http://www.hobbyistsoftware.com/butler-more.php), MobileClock (http://www.rmobile.ca/), TealLock 6 (http://www.tealpoint.com/softlock.htm) and if making sure your data is always current then On Guard Backup (http://northglide.com/), TakePhone 7 (http://www.shsh.com/beta), 2Day (http://www.shsh.com) and Datebook 6 (http://pimlicosoftware.com/datebk6.htm) and of course ChatterEmail (http://www.chatteremail.com).

    The ones listed above are top of the line and well supported by their developer(s).

    Ben
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    p.s. SO JEALOUS you're in Honolulu! My husband and I visited for the first time in September and stayed in Waikiki....just incredible! Paradise IT IS!

    KMorris, I did not see the Honolulu comment until after I cleared the message. Sorry about that. Honolulu is a unique city. It is the 8th largest in the country and inaddition to having the same problems all big cities have, throw in a cultural diversity unmatched anywhere in this country and you have a city that is unrivaled. The culture here is for the most part conservative and family oriented. It's political orientation is rather liberal in most aspects except for those that directly affect family values. We have a republic governor and a democratic legislature. We have high taxes and very low unemployment. For some wild reason the population here loves high taxes (voting the same people all the time) and the business orientation of the governor (Linda Lingle). We pay dearly for our gasoline and yet our roads bite.

    We have poverty and we have wealth, often across the street from one another. We have sights that thrill and sights that disgust. We have areas where no one has a yard and some areas where there are yards; however, few have yard as large as those common to the mainland.

    What I say to friends coming out here: of course see the tourist traps but make sure you take the time to see the real island. In addition, if the time permits, the outer islands offer their own sites and charms.

    Ben
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    I currently have been using chattermail on my 650 (with a Fastmail IMAP acct) and it is fantastic (although fastmail has been a bit flaky lately). Anyway, with other threads suggesting that the battery life of the 680 is noticeably less than the 650, I would expect that chattermail would probably significantly affect the battery life on the 680 even more. I currently use the OEM battery (not an extended life Seidio) on my 650, and I have to make sure I charge the device daily. With the 680 and chattermail one might have to charge the device even more often than this (?several times a day).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bclinger View Post
    It goes from Gmail to AOL - the sent from address is still going to remain the same - just pay attention to whom the bell tolls and select the appropriate profile at the bottom of the reply screen in Chatter. Also, ChatterEmail has built in it profiles for many of the major providers. Basic setup is really only a few minutes of work - you must know your user name, email address and password and ChatterEmail does the rest. In addition, Mark provides excellent support. The test drive release of ChatterEmail is exactly the same as the paid for release - set it up, play and buy.
    When you select the Gmail account to respond with, ChatterEmail uses the SMTP profile of Gmail to respond with. All you have to do is define the servers/mail boxes and then select the appropriate one to respond with. A time or two and it becomes 5th nature.

    Since you will be new to the device, look at installing a good installation monitoring program (Uninstall Monitor - http://www.northglide.com), a good device based program (Resco Backup - http://resco.net/palm/backup/default.asp), Reset Doctor (http://www.hobbyistsoftware.com/reset-doctor-more.php), Butler (http://www.hobbyistsoftware.com/butler-more.php), MobileClock (http://www.rmobile.ca/), TealLock 6 (http://www.tealpoint.com/softlock.htm) and if making sure your data is always current then On Guard Backup (http://northglide.com/), TakePhone 7 (http://www.shsh.com/beta), 2Day (http://www.shsh.com) and Datebook 6 (http://pimlicosoftware.com/datebk6.htm) and of course ChatterEmail (http://www.chatteremail.com).

    The ones listed above are top of the line and well supported by their developer(s).

    Ben
    Thanks again! I'm sure this will all make more sense once I have the 680 in hand! You might be hearing from me again;-)
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