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    I tried searching for Wifi and Tethering and there are hundreds of posts. I read many, but all seem to assume a basic knowledge about the topics.
    I've used Palms for years, but only recently got the VZW 700p. I don't have a data plan. I spend 16 waking hours a day (I sleep 6 hours) within ten feet of an internet connection and don't feel like paying $500 per year so that I can be connected for the two extra hours (thanks for the advice in any event) as the need isn't that great.
    But I am wondering about a WiFi card. If one has a WiFi is it safe to assume that (without the data plan) I can go to a Starbucks, or any open hot spot and my Treo will be on the internet? Would I just open up the browser and start surfing, or would I need to activate the data plan? Are there a lot of different cards? Are some better than the others?
    As to tethering, every search I find assumes that I know what it is and talks about it, but what is tethering?
    I also see that VZW's data plan appears more expensive than alot of the others. Do trends indicate that their plan will come down in price or is it likely to stay at this rate?
    Finally on GPS. My wife owns a TomTom 300, so there isn't a big need, but I've seen that I can add TomTom software to my Treo. I also read that VZW ('get it now') offers a download for their GPS software (for basic phones). I believe (but am not sure) that this feature uses the phone connection (not data) to determine if you are traveling the correct route, and if you are off the route, it connects and recalculates. I don't believe Treos can get 'get it now' stuff, so the question is..can I (a cheapskate) use GPS navigation with my phone connection (and a downloaded product), or does GPS Navigation require a data plan.
    Thanks for reading this long post (and yes, I did a lot of Googling and forum searching before posting...and no, I don't need to be told that not using the data plan is like driving a Ferrari 20 MPH, but, thanks for the advice, in any event!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldo View Post
    But I am wondering about a WiFi card. If one has a WiFi is it safe to assume that (without the data plan) I can go to a Starbucks, or any open hot spot and my Treo will be on the internet? Would I just open up the browser and start surfing, or would I need to activate the data plan? Are there a lot of different cards? Are some better than the others?
    There is no WIFI card available for the 700p.

    Quote Originally Posted by haroldo View Post
    As to tethering, every search I find assumes that I know what it is and talks about it, but what is tethering?
    "Tethering" is using your Treo's internet connection (via your data plan) to access the internet with your laptop or desktop computer.

    Quote Originally Posted by haroldo View Post
    I also see that VZW's data plan appears more expensive than alot of the others. Do trends indicate that their plan will come down in price or is it likely to stay at this rate?
    I don't know what others might say, but IMO, consolidation in the wireless industry does not bode well for data plans coming down in price.

    Quote Originally Posted by haroldo View Post
    Finally on GPS. My wife owns a TomTom 300, so there isn't a big need, but I've seen that I can add TomTom software to my Treo. I also read that VZW ('get it now') offers a download for their GPS software (for basic phones). I believe (but am not sure) that this feature uses the phone connection (not data) to determine if you are traveling the correct route, and if you are off the route, it connects and recalculates. I don't believe Treos can get 'get it now' stuff, so the question is..can I (a cheapskate) use GPS navigation with my phone connection (and a downloaded product), or does GPS Navigation require a data plan.
    GPS Navigation requires a data plan....well, actually, it could be possible to use data via dialup (CSD) and pay for it in phone minutes...but, as a rule, a CSD connection is very slow - 6-21 kbs - and so probably wouldn't be appropriate for GPS while driving.
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    Thanks for all of your replies!
    Would WiFi for the 700p be considered an eventuality?
    Assuming it does come out, would my Treo (in range of an open hot spot) be on the internet (without a data plan)?
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    Just got the Palm Navigator v.6 and it is really cool. I read lots of negative about v.5, this was a snap to install and I can't stop giggling. I walk around with the receiver in my pocket just to play with it and it works great. I was going to buy a Nuvi 310-360 for our upcoming 3 weeks in Italy and I may just download what I need from tomtom Plus. I do think the Nuvi's larger screen would be nice but this is a lot better than I expected. I'm running it on a 700P vzn.
    Never underestimate the power of freedom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by haroldo View Post
    Thanks for all of your replies!
    Would WiFi for the 700p be considered an eventuality?
    Assuming it does come out, would my Treo (in range of an open hot spot) be on the internet (without a data plan)?
    IMHO I don't think WiFi on the "p" is an eventuality; a possiblity maybe, albeit a slim one. It's more likely that a future version of the PalmOS Treo incorporate WiFi. Insofar as being able to connect without a data plan, yes, I believe you can do this now with a 700w/wx although I have not seen a confirmation (it's possible to cripple anything). Given the conditions you describe, no data plan with a WiFi enable 700p makes perfect sense, especially with all the free WiFi hotspots popping up all over the place. Unfortunately, the p is not likely to have that capablility.
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    hey man! first, congrats on getting a 700p. Now let's get down to bussiness:

    - As of today, there is no WiFi solution available for the 700p. In the past there was a solution for the 650 and 600 from a company called Enfora... maybe they'll release a new solution for the 700p sometime soon.

    - In the hipothetical case there was a WiFi solution, you don't need a data plan to use it.

    - tethered mode is basically using your phone as a modem for your computer, like in the old days when you had to plug in your PC to the phone line to get online. For the 700p, you can connect it to the pc thru USB or thru BT... I recommend the former for really getting the fast speeds. And in this case, you do need a data plan...

    - The best way to get GPS in your Treo is by getting one of those Bluetooth GPS solutions that are so popular these days. Once again, going that route means you don't have to pay VZW for the service. I'd suggest checking Palm's website to see their latest offers for their Navigation pack

    hope this helps... and BTW, I wrote this post entirely from my 700p .
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    Thanks to all of you for answering my questions!
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    I wrote to Enfora and received a reply saying that they currently have no plans to deveop a WiFi card for the 700p but that we could take a look at the website periodically for new developments.

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