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  1.    #1  
    Hi treo-ites:

    I'm new to the world, but plodding my way towards a greater understanding of the fabulous Palm Treo that I own.

    I was scrolling through the "delete" applications menu, seeing what if anything I could remove from my phone to get some memory back (sez: "Free Space: 2.6M of 23.7M)

    I noticed one gargantuan item: Messages Database which weighs in at 4920K

    What exactly is the Messages Database and can I do anything to slim it down?

    I do a fair bit of text-messaging, often including pictures and I am wondering if this is part of the bloat.

    Also, if there's some web site that explains this kind of "palm basic," I'd be happy to explore it if anyone would kindly direct me there!

    thanks,

    mick
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    The Messages Database is just what it sounds like: the sum total of your sent/received text messages. You can delete it - if you don't mind losing those messages, or you can use FileZ's Item/Edit menu to delete individual records, one at a time.

    There are some tools for saving your text history to the desktop first, if you'd like to delete the database and start over - but I believe they're all Windows-specific.
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  3.    #3  
    thanks so much for replying!

    So that's what I was thinking about the messages database. But why so huge? Would that likely be due to my tendency to include pictures (even movies) in my text messages?
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  4.    #4  
    One more thing:

    If I did choose to delete the Messages Database, is it okay to just do that from the delete applications window? Or is there a more civilized way to do it?

    Thanks again for the enlightenment!

    mick
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  5. #5  
    Quote Originally Posted by mrtoastey View Post
    One more thing:

    If I did choose to delete the Messages Database, is it okay to just do that from the delete applications window? Or is there a more civilized way to do it?
    In my opinion, that's always the most civilized way to delete a db or application.
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    thanks!

    So I was thinking that I wanted to save one rather long text message exchange, and did a "select all" and then a "copy," which led to the disappointing "too large for clipboard" message. (sigh)

    Is there any workaround? On a mac?

    Seems like there would be some sort of set of Text Messaging archive tools..

    thanks again for any enlightenment!

    mick
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtoastey View Post
    thanks!

    So I was thinking that I wanted to save one rather long text message exchange, and did a "select all" and then a "copy," which led to the disappointing "too large for clipboard" message. (sigh)

    Is there any workaround?
    You could always use a clipboard extender, like ClipPro.
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  8.    #8  
    OMG! See how little I know?

    thank you.
    Mick Jeffries
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  9. #9  
    I found this discussion b/c my Messages Database is quite large too (and eatin' up perfectly good space!). Not wanting to have to rebuild my Treo or go thru any complicated steps, I did a little experimenting and found the following works perfectly for cleaning up that huge database file.

    Go to your Treo SMS app.
    Delete any msgs you do not want from Inbox.
    Using picklist (marked "Inbox"), go to your other queues - my Drafts and Sent queues had LOTS of old messages in them.
    Under Menu picklist, pick "Purge".
    After I deleted all unwanted old messages, my Messages Database file was small again (13k).

    Good luck!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrtoastey View Post
    Hi treo-ites:

    I'm new to the world, but plodding my way towards a greater understanding of the fabulous Palm Treo that I own.

    I was scrolling through the "delete" applications menu, seeing what if anything I could remove from my phone to get some memory back (sez: "Free Space: 2.6M of 23.7M)

    I noticed one gargantuan item: Messages Database which weighs in at 4920K

    What exactly is the Messages Database and can I do anything to slim it down?

    I do a fair bit of text-messaging, often including pictures and I am wondering if this is part of the bloat.

    Also, if there's some web site that explains this kind of "palm basic," I'd be happy to explore it if anyone would kindly direct me there!

    thanks,

    mick
  10.    #10  
    I seem to be striking out with ClipPro (sigh). I see its functionality, but I do not see it when I do a "select all" of an ongoing SMS series of text messages. I'm trying to preserve an entire weeks-long discussion that I can scroll backward through on my Treo, that I can "select all" of, but when I choose "copy" I'm told "copy exceeds clipboard limit" or something similar. So I'm still stuck. The thought was that ClipPro would help with that, but not as far as I can figure out. I'm really surprised that there's not some very easy way to "archive" off the entire text message database into a TXT file.

    anybody?

    thanks for the enlightenment,

    mick
    Mick Jeffries
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  11. #11  
    Quote Originally Posted by mrtoastey View Post
    I seem to be striking out with ClipPro (sigh). I see its functionality, but I do not see it when I do a "select all" of an ongoing SMS series of text messages. I'm trying to preserve an entire weeks-long discussion that I can scroll backward through on my Treo, that I can "select all" of, but when I choose "copy" I'm told "copy exceeds clipboard limit" or something similar. So I'm still stuck. The thought was that ClipPro would help with that, but not as far as I can figure out. I'm really surprised that there's not some very easy way to "archive" off the entire text message database into a TXT file.

    anybody?

    thanks for the enlightenment,

    mick
    Did you Select All and Copy using ClipPro's menu?
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  12.    #12  
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gamble View Post
    Did you Select All and Copy using ClipPro's menu?
    HI Bill:

    ClipPro's menu, to the best of my understanding, isn't an option at that point. I can see it's handy and feature-loaded menu, in other aspects of Palming, but when I select all within the "inbox" of the MSGs app, the ClipPro menu does not seem to present itself. And (as we know) if I select copy, I'm told that my copy exceeds clipboard limits.

    Do you use ClipPro? Maybe you could try a similar operation and tell me if it's showing up for you.

    I'm stumped!

    Related: One ideosyncracy (a good one, I think) in the Palm version of text-messaging, is that my Treo gives the appearance of an IM chat, even though I guess it's actually SMS (my terminology may be off here). Point being, the "inbox" of the MSGs app shows both commentsmine and those of the person I'm communicating with—under one heading, in a back-and-forth IM sort of way. These "conversations" are what I'm trying to preserve. The sent box is friggin' full of messages, but I'm wondering what happens if I delete (or purge) those; what effect that will have on the IM-style conversations that are preserved in the "inbox."

    Does this make any sense?
    Mick Jeffries
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