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  1. #61  
    I don't know how anybody else would feel about this, but I would actually like my next model to just have colors, or basic shapes, or something other than default pics on the hard buttons and have all of them customizable. It's not a big deal, certainly not a deal breaker, but would be nice for me. Just a thought.

    Gargoyle
  2. #62  
    Agreed. Moving the menu button was an awful decision. It's practically impossible to hit using one hand without dropping your phone.

    Been test-driving "TypeRight" (StandAlone--guys who make QuickNews). Doesn't seem to let you map the green button. Also, the green button doesn't wake my device as others have said. TypeRight looks to be very good, though. You can map multiple apps to the same key, unlike Butler. Great feature. Locked w/ Resco, and so far, completely stable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joad View Post
    Treo 600: 4 standard hardware buttons, power on top + (additional menu buttons to make up for loss of Grafitti)

    Treo 650: 2 standard hardware buttons, other 2 hardware buttons hijacked as dedicated "green" and "red" phone/power, loss of top "power" button, moved around the menu buttons (that emulate Grafitti features)

    Treo 700p: 2 standard hardware buttons, Grafitti "home" emulation moved from additional button to loss of one standard button, "phone" button still replaces standard button - but loss of the 650 "home" button for an additional green button, no return of the top "power" button, Grafitti emulation "menu" button is now in the difficult-to-reach lowest RH corner...


    WTF is Palm thinking - if they are thinking at all? I doubt they are doing all this mickey-mouse moving around to accomodate "new users" who buy a $700.00 phone and are incapable of reading a manual for 3 minutes (if they can't just intuit it). I presume that many or most purchasers of Treos have used Treos and/or Palms before - and radically screwing around with the hardware layout every release makes *NO* sense. It's like creating a different version of Graffiti every time they release a different handheld. P.I.T.A.

    I try not to use anyone use my Treo that can't figure out how to turn it off, or ask me to help them use it. What's the point of Palm killing off buttons and moving them all around like one of those number puzzles every time they release a minor hardware change?

    Thank god they don't design keyboards - I'd imagine the process there would be to have 3 monkeys drop a bunch of Scrabble pieces on the floor, pick them up randomly then put into some sort of "pattern" and - *TA-DA* - relearn all over again how to type. QWERTY becomes LJGRYL (with ESC key on lower right) then RGKFS (with number keys reversed) and then PSIWMJ (removing the F5 key, moving all the other function keys to the left and then below the space bar) and making the shift key bright pink......
  3. #63  
    the green button is pretty useless...but what about the side button...under the volume keys? I have yet to figure out what that button entails....i swear it does NOTHING...and serves no purpose
  4. #64  
    side button by default, when press + hold is voice memo app.

    You can go to Prefs, Personal, Buttons and change it to another app.


    p.s. green button does not wake up the phone - original poster was in error. All the other quick buttons do wake up the phone.
    Palm Pre and a nice collection of Treos: 755p, 700, 650, 600, 300 and Palm Pilots, Visors, and Sony Clie
  5. #65  
    Green button is a massive waste. I have not touched it since the first few days I got the phone when I was playing with everything. I mean, why the hell can't I remap it like all the other buttons? I wonder what possible reason there could be for not allowing that. Just plain stupid.
  6. #66  
    all this talk about the green button being useless. i use it to answer incoming calls. how do you guys answer incoming calls?
  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by waterfrontmgmt View Post
    all this talk about the green button being useless. i use it to answer incoming calls. how do you guys answer incoming calls?
    i use the touchscreen for answering calls
  8. #68  
    Quote Originally Posted by waterfrontmgmt View Post
    all this talk about the green button being useless. i use it to answer incoming calls. how do you guys answer incoming calls?
    I use the center Nav button.
    iPhone 4S
    Former Treo & Storm Owner
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  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by trim81 View Post
    i use the touchscreen for answering calls
    i try to use the touchscreen as little as possible...with my fingers anyway. the center 5 way is ok...but a lot of times i miss and hit the side and toggle between awnswer/ignore...the green button is just easier for me to hit.
  10. #70  
    Green button to answer or the green button on my car kit to answer.
  11. #71  
    I'd like to use the green button to toggle the keyboard lights on and off. I think that is more convenient that the side key, which is what Keyshades hack does. I have LudasP as well. However, I can't get this setup using those two programs. Any tips on how I can get the green button to toggle the keyboard lights on and off?
  12. #72  
    Seems like a waste of a good button to just have it toggle KB lights - but better than it's current status as dead uselessly redundant.

    I really pray Palm just releases a firmware that gives us access to configuring every button (except, perhaps, the dedicated "power" button which probably needs to remain to facilitate support calls).

    And I second the motion for Palm to dump the "pictographs" on *all* hardware buttons in favor of colors and symbols. I haven't had mine align with what they performed since at least 1998 - except when I was forced to by the Treo 650/700p hard-coding them to functions. With apps such as ScrBtn I can get a single button to launch well over 24 different apps... except when Palm needlessly restricts this in firmware.
    Treo 755s in good condition available on ebay for $50-$75. No need to pay for insurance or buy a Pre.
  13. #73  
    If the phone app is not active the green button should launch it for you. Then it would make (a little) more sense to me. And friends would know how to operate it. They should never have made you use one of the 4 launcher buttons for that.

    Gary
    Sprint Treo 755p (previously Sprint Treo 700p, Sprint i500, Sprint i330 [yuk], Sprint i300, Sprint StarTac, Verizon StarTac)
    Mac 12" 1.5 GHz PowerBook (Constantly tethered to my Treo)
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  14. #74  
    I used LudusP to make the green button start my camcorder. Whenever the kids are doing something cute, it would always take too long to get the camcorder going. This is working well for me. Thanks, Access/Palm, for the useless green button!
  15. #75  
    I still have a T650 and love the menu and home buttons on the T650 as well.

    For all the reasons mentioned in this thread, I hate redundancy in this green button on the T700--and now on the T680 & T750. I hate that green button--so much so that I'm considering getting a Windows Mobile Treo once the Treos get Windows Mobile 6 pre-installed.
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    #76  
    Green button brings up recent dials, similar to the Call Log, but easier and quicker to use. The log can be viewed by either Incoming, Outgoing or Missed. The log can also be programmed to a speed dial button (or what ever you call the buttons below the keypad) that can be moved or replaced. The green button is always there. Not a great use of the button, but it isn't useless, either.
  17. #77  
    Quote Originally Posted by KevMeister View Post
    I still have a T650 and love the menu and home buttons on the T650 as well.

    For all the reasons mentioned in this thread, I hate redundancy in this green button on the T700--and now on the T680 & T750. I hate that green button...
    I felt the same way, and after I got my 680, I was constantly tapping the wrong buttons. So I installed LudusP, and now, everywhere but in the phone app*, my buttons work just as they did on the 650.

    *It turns out, at least on the 680, that taking the full 650 key-mapping into the phone app prevents one from answering a call with his BT headset.
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    #78  
    ludusp is a great app. it replaces an app for those useless buttons. i set my green button for contact. i can now pull up contacts w/o going thru the phone menu.
    Last edited by fondoo; 04/08/2007 at 12:13 PM.
  19. #79  
    I use my green button for chattereemail with Ludus. Great app!
  20. #80  
    finally find one decent use for the green button.

    when you are reading an SMS - if you hit the green button it calls the sender of SMS.
    Palm Pre and a nice collection of Treos: 755p, 700, 650, 600, 300 and Palm Pilots, Visors, and Sony Clie
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