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    Peeps

    I did not realise you were still chasing the dream of WIFI on the 650 - you don't need it, nor do you need reverse DUN, Soltick PPP or a Bluetooth adaptor on your PC.

    You just need a Belkin F8T030 Bluetooth Access Point + USB Print Server

    Out of the box, this supports the Treo 650 accessing the internet over Bluetooth.

    To set up, read Belkin's own notes:
    http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...ad=1214&lang=1

    The AP retails for about UKP 90, but on ebay they can be retailed for about UKP 30.

    Experience, do I know what I am talking about? Yes, I have 20 years experience in networking and currently manage a worldwide network of over 400 sites.

    Hope this helps everyone!
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    The Anycom Bluetooth Access point works well too. I use it and like it a lot. My only complaint would be that Treoing on a bluetooth Pan sucks down power very fast.
    Mike
    Palm III -> Palm V -> Blue Palm Vx w/Omnisky -> Treo 270 -> Treo 600 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 680
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    Why buy an AP when you can just buy a USB dongle for $12?

    But you left out the obvious part, Mr First Post, you can't use a Bluetooth connection to get on the internet from anywhere. You still have to have some network connectivity to use the bluetooth to the net of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khaytsus
    Why buy an AP when you can just buy a USB dongle for $12?
    Because you have to use XP connection sharing which stinks.
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    When I'm home, I use XP connection sharing since I bought my Treo.

    I don't see in which way this stinks ?
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    how do you set up the treo to use the bt connection for the internet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgelfuso
    how do you set up the treo to use the bt connection for the internet?
    Consult Dean's Guide.
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouDontNeedWIFI
    Peeps

    I did not realise you were still chasing the dream of WIFI on the 650 - you don't need it, nor do you need reverse DUN, Soltick PPP or a Bluetooth adaptor on your PC.

    You just need a Belkin F8T030 Bluetooth Access Point + USB Print Server

    Out of the box, this supports the Treo 650 accessing the internet over Bluetooth.

    To set up, read Belkin's own notes:
    http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...ad=1214&lang=1

    The AP retails for about UKP 90, but on ebay they can be retailed for about UKP 30.

    Experience, do I know what I am talking about? Yes, I have 20 years experience in networking and currently manage a worldwide network of over 400 sites.

    Hope this helps everyone!
    Personally, I think this would be a waste of money, unless you only need data access inside your house. If you go to a place where you get no phone signal but there's a wifi AP available, your BT AP is useless. With 20 years of networking experience, one would thing you'd realize this simple shortcoming of your solution

    For example, in my school's science building, the two classrooms I go to for lecture get a very weak Sprint signal. If I wanted to get online in those classrooms (let's say to download notes or quickly google something my teacher is talking about), I wouldn't be able to. However, my friend sitting beside me with his T-Mobile MDA can get online with wifi just fine...not to mention his MDA costs less than the 700p does. What good would a BT AP do me in this situation? Wifi would be much more useful.
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    Actually what he meant was, we should all carry around a small case with the Access Point in it, when we get to a site where we want access for our Treo we would then hack into the closest service and add our portable access point (this is why we should all have 20 years of networking experience).

    I am putting together my kit now.
    digitalfx
    Former Treo 650 user
    now happy HTC TyTn owner
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    I did it...who needs a wifi card? With this simple setup, were good to go with our stock Treo 650...o yah, you will need to tap into your 20+ years of network experience to hack into your local hotspot.
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    digitalfx
    Former Treo 650 user
    now happy HTC TyTn owner
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilme2
    Because you have to use XP connection sharing which stinks.
    Erm.. It would work.

    And no, *I* would not have to use XP connection sharing. I use a real OS. ;-)
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    LOL! So tell me again, "YouDontNeedWIFI" how exactly does this get my Treo on Wi-Fi, at Starbucks?

    Just goes to show ya, 20 years experience in networking computers... doesn't necessarily gain you any common sense.

    You logged in and chose a username specifically to share this revelation?
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    Bluetooth Access Point? That seems kind of pointless unless your BT radio has been modded for longer range, and even then, the 802.15 standard has substantially less bandwidth than ANY 802.11 standard. There is a reason it is called Personal Area Networking, right? I mean a print server I can understand, but an access point seems just plain disgusting. Is TCP/IP even implemented in Bluetooth? How would you do the addressing?


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    Good lord... Yes, an AP is silliness, but is TCP/IP "implimented" in Bluetooth? Of course it's not.... That's what network protocols are for.

    What do you think a Bluetooth network sync is? A point to point connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilme2
    Because you have to use XP connection sharing which stinks.
    But it works well for internet access for a treo. If it works, why would it stink?
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    Did anyone notice the brain surgeon who started this thread has not posted since? Let it die.
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geatches
    Did anyone notice the brain surgeon who started this thread has not posted since? Let it die.
    Perhaps he's on holiday, as he has not been on line since he posted
    Thought of the day :
    No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway
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    no holiday, he is managing a worldwide network of over 400 sites....keeps one quite busy
    digitalfx
    Former Treo 650 user
    now happy HTC TyTn owner
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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalfx
    no holiday, he is managing a worldwide network of over 400 sites....keeps one quite busy
    or, he's back in the "special" hospital.
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
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    Maybe he's relying on his special method to get online, and no one's letting him plug his contraption into their router.


    Or maybe he's really an intern at Belkin, and his task for the day here is complete.

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