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  1. #21  
    All I get is a kernal panic when I click "connect". VZ Access is installed and works great with my wife's kyocera PC card. Network connected or not on the 700p still a kernal panic. BT sync works using Mark/space, but the kernal panic occurs even if I uninstal M/S missing sync. Is there some diagnostic to cure this? I am pairing to a TiBook DVI with a rev 1 BT dongle (DM-120) under tiger with all latest updates.

    I am at a loss on this one.
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    #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by ricktdotorg
    For the "terminally" curious, I wanted to know about my connection:

    rickt@gort 09:48:36 (~)$ ping 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com
    PING 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
    64 bytes from 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1): icmp_seq=0 ttl=40 time=253 ms
    64 bytes from 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=40 time=261 ms
    64 bytes from 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=40 time=270 ms
    64 bytes from 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=40 time=254 ms


    rickt@gort 09:48:42 (~)$ sudo traceroute 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com
    traceroute to 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
    1 1-164-111-65.serverpronto.com (65.111.164.1) 3.892 ms 1.693 ms 1.146 ms
    2 ge2-edge.mia.infolink.com (64.251.0.65) 0.192 ms 0.227 ms 0.131 ms
    3 216.22.64.93 (216.22.64.93) 0.666 ms 0.594 ms 0.531 ms
    4 miamfllr1m6-so-6-0-0.ip.epik.net (216.22.67.225) 0.613 ms 0.548 ms 0.487 ms
    5 4.79.100.49 (4.79.100.49) 6.003 ms 5.976 ms 5.904 ms
    6 so-7-0-0.mp2.Miami1.Level3.net (4.68.112.45) 45.136 ms 5.890 ms 5.974 ms
    7 as-2-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.128.157) 75.761 ms ae-0-0.bbr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (64.159.1.129) 75.475 ms as-2-0.bbr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.128.157) 75.660
    ms
    8 ae-31-53.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.123.94) 74.244 ms ae-32-54.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.123.126) 79.980 ms ae-31-55.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.123.158) 78
    .062 ms
    9 ae-1.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.1) 79.339 ms 85.667 ms ae-3-3.car2.Sacramento1.Level3.net (4.69.132.157) 76.762 ms
    10 ae-3-3.car2.Sacramento1.Level3.net (4.69.132.157) 77.831 ms ae-11-11.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (4.69.132.149) 76.813 ms 76.913 ms
    11 ae-11-11.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (4.69.132.149) 77.958 ms VERIZON-WIR.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (64.158.148.2) 77.877 ms ae-11-11.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (4.69
    .132.149) 77.967 ms
    12 VERIZON-WIR.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (64.158.148.2) 78.513 ms 66.sub-66-174-102.myvzw.com (66.174.102.66) 77.714 ms VERIZON-WIR.car1.Sacramento1.Level3.net (64.158.14
    8.2) 78.636 ms
    13 118.sub-66-174-101.myvzw.com (66.174.101.118) 92.751 ms 92.772 ms 66.sub-66-174-102.myvzw.com (66.174.102.66) 78.587 ms
    14 123.sub-66-174-33.myvzw.com (66.174.33.123) 92.865 ms 118.sub-66-174-101.myvzw.com (66.174.101.118) 93.668 ms 93.689 ms
    15 148.sub-66-174-32.myvzw.com (66.174.32.148) 93.023 ms 123.sub-66-174-33.myvzw.com (66.174.33.123) 93.890 ms 148.sub-66-174-32.myvzw.com (66.174.32.148) 92.978 ms
    16 137.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.137) 93.389 ms 148.sub-66-174-32.myvzw.com (66.174.32.148) 94.347 ms 137.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.137) 93.272 ms
    17 137.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.137) 94.699 ms 94.624 ms 149.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.149) 96.958 ms
    18 149.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.149) 94.678 ms 116.sub-66-174-208.myvzw.com (66.174.208.116) 94.172 ms 149.sub-66-174-34.myvzw.com (66.174.34.149) 94.802 ms
    19 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1) 94.462 ms 116.sub-66-174-208.myvzw.com (66.174.208.116) 95.028 ms 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1) 94.476 ms
    20 1.sub-70-209-160.myvzw.com (70.209.160.1) 257.513 ms 95.702 ms 244.466 ms
    HOLLY MS! I cant believe its that slow....
  3. #23  
    I can't understand why people are bothering with Bluetooth DUN for EVDO access -- Bluetooth is incredibly slow and will throttle down your bandwidth.

    If you want speed, you need to tether your 700p to your Mac via USB. You can do this easily with a program called USBModem by Mobile Stream. You can download a trial here.

    It's that easy.
  4. #24  
    I guess as a second request, does anyone know if the Verizon software allows USB tethering on Mac OS X? I went ahead and installed VZW Manager. There didn't seem to be any options at all for how to get it connect to the Treo. It went ahead and did bluetooth tethering by modifying the network settings (which I already had working anyway).

    As far as I can tell it seems like there is no USB tethering solution from Palm or Verizon for the Treo 700p. Is that right? Seems like one less reason to get the 700p (although bluetooth is still much faster than GSM EDGE connections).
    Main Phone: Treo 270/600/650/700w/700p/750v/Motorola Q/iPhone
    Tried but sold: Motorola Q/Nokia E61/700wx/HTC TyTN/Treo 680
  5.    #25  
    You are correct. The VZW software does not support USB tethering.

    There is a program called PalmUSBModem (I think) that does this. I have gotten USB tethering via my VZW 700p and my Powerbook working just fine through this software.
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyS
    I can't understand why people are bothering with Bluetooth DUN for EVDO access -- Bluetooth is incredibly slow and will throttle down your bandwidth.

    If you want speed, you need to tether your 700p to your Mac via USB. You can do this easily with a program called USBModem by Mobile Stream. You can download a trial here.

    It's that easy.
    OK, can anyone tell me if you have to have Sprint's data service on top of Power Vision on the account in order for USBModem to work? Seems the SERO plans include unlimited PowerVision data on the Treo itself but you cannot add the PAM option onto a SERO plan...
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    If you don't have either PDANet or USBModem or the Treo phone library hack (posted elsewhere in this forum), you won't be able to "tether" (through cable or bluetooth), UNLESS you have an actual tethering plan from Sprint/VZW.

    The two apps and the hack all make your data appear to be coming from the phone instead of a tethered device, so the service provider allows it to pass. If you don't have any of these, you need the correct service plan on your account. They charge for this service plan, I think VZW is another $15 on top of your normal data plan...

    whodean: in theory, as long as your phone can get network access, you should be able to tether to it. If you don't have unlimited data, it's going to hurt though. So if PowerVision allows you to browse from the Treo, then you should be able to connect it to a PC if you use PDANet/USBModem/phone library hack.

    The crux of the whole thing, with actual cabled tethering, is that you need a modem driver on the PC in order to let it recognize the Treo as a comms device. On a Windows machine this driver comes as part of the Verizon dialup software on the CD; I'd imagine that the Mac software might include it, but I'm not sure. Another option (possibly) would be to install PDANet for MAC. On PC at least the Verizon Treo modem driver is actually written by JuneFabrics, the people who develop PDANet. If you can get that driver installed and they don't have it "locked down" to only work with their software on the PDA, you should be able to just create a normal dial-up connection, using the treo's device as your modem, and it should work.
  8. #28  
    I just wanted to throw in my experience with a Macbook Pro. Installing USBModem is a 10 step process, but the documentation is very good, and after that it works perfectly and I'm very impressed. They include a program that runs on your Treo and a drivers that you install on your laptop under Library/Modem Scripts.

    Anyway, it's well worth the money. If you go to palmgear now you can buy another program for $15 and get USBmodem for free as part of a promotion.

    http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fu...&prodID=121394
  9. #29  
    Why am I connecting at the exact same speed with the USBModem trial version as with Bluetooth? Either way, my connection speed is 230400bps. If I can't get a faster speed, why shell out the bucks for USBModem?

    Interestingly, the Treo specialist at Verizon also told me that I should be able to connect at at least double the speed with a USB cable solution.

    Could it be because I'm still using the same modem configuration as with Bluetooth: Verizon Support (PC 5220)? I'm using that one because my Mac doesn't have the Palm Treo CDMA (1x or EVDO) modem that the User Guide says to use. (I've also tried the Verizon 1x EVDO modem script, but that connects at just 144kps, through either Bluetooth or cable.)
  10. #30  
    Never mind. Just answered my own question. Went back and re-read the User Guide and it turned out I had to copy that modem script into my Library. D'oh!

    Now it's saying "connection speed not available," but it seems to be faster. What's an easy way to check it?
  11. #31  
    Deciding whether to get a 700p for tethering to my Powerbook G4. Seems relatively simple from the posts here, but thought I would check with Verizon just to see.

    Response is below. I am assuming this is the "official" response, and they for some reason want me to go in a different direction.. there is certainly plenty of evidence this works. Is this because of possible need for third-party software? Or maybe something else? (I am NOT interested in a VCast phone or using a card.) I am not sure if they are referring to BT or USB, they didn't say.

    I did call back to get more info on data plans and they of course are uninformed or confused... I think. I wanted difference between what they call unlimited data (44.99) and unlimited broadband ($59.99). The CSR talked speed and some other things, but in the end what they SEEMED to be saying is that the higher figure includes the tethering, which would make sense from what I see here and by doing the math $44.99 + $15 tethering = $59.99.

    Anyway, if anyone could illuminate, I would really appreciate it. I am ready to pull the trigger on the 700p, just want to make it works the way I want it to before I do. Thanks.

    Verizon info:

    We apologize for any confusion regarding our data plans. Currently, Verizon Wireless does not support the Treo 700p as a tethered modem with a Macintosh computer. However, using specific Broadband/VCast enabled handsets such as the RAZR, E815, VX8100 and VX9800 provides the greatest variety of supported Apple computers. Subscribing to our $59.99 Unlimited Broadband Access Connect data plan will enable you to use Broadband/VCast handsets as a USB or Bluetooth modems. You can then connect to our 60-80 kbps National Access service or 400-700kbps Broadband Access service (where available) without incurring any airtime charges. To use the handset option, your computer must meet the following conditions:

    - G3 or newer processor or Intel Core processor
    (iMac, PowerMac, PowerBook, eMac, Mini, MacBook, Macbook Pro)
    - Apple OS X 10.3.2 or higher such as Panther and Tiger
    - Administrator rights on your Mac (for software installation)
    - Built-in USB port or built-in Bluetooth
    - CD-ROM drive
    - 32 MB Ram
    - 14 MB free hard disk space

    If you are unsure what version of the Mac OS you have please follow the steps below:

    1. Click on the "Apple" icon on the upper left Menu Bar.
    2. Select "About This Mac"
    3. The OS version will be in the upper portion of this window.

    Verizon Wireless also supports using our wireless data cards with Apple G3 and newer PowerBooks as well as MacBook Pros. Verizon Wireless offers the Verizon Wireless V640 aircard in the ExpressCard form factor that is only supported with the MacBook Pro. Verizon Wireless also offers three aircards in the PCMCIA form factor, the PC-5740, V620, and KPC-650. To use our PCMCIA aircards, your computer must meet the following conditions:

    - PowerBook G3 or newer (iBooks and MacBooks not supported)
    - Externally accessible PCMCIA slot (12" PowerBooks not supported)
    - Mac OS X 10.3.2 or higher such as Panther and Tiger
    - Administrator rights on your Mac (for software installation)
    - CD-ROM drive
    - 32 MB Ram
    - 14 MB free hard disk space

    Broadband Access and National Access are premium services that require the addition of a Broadband Access or National Access data plan on your account. There are several data options available for you to choose from. They all offer the same average connection speed of 60-80 kbps using National Access and the Unlimited Broadband Access data plan enables you to connect to our 400-700kbps Broadband Access connection in addition to National Access. None of our Data plans incur any airtime charges when using Broadband or National Access. We have listed the various pricing options below:

    - 20 Megabytes of National Access for $39.99 per month plus $0.004 per Kilobyte in excess of 20 Megabytes ($4.07 per Megabyte)
    - Unlimited Broadband Access and National Access for $79.99 per month

    We are currently offering the Unlimited Broadband & National Access plan at a discounted promotional price of $59.99 per month. In order to take advantage of this promotional offering you must have one active line of Verizon Wireless voice service with a voice plan that is $35 or more per month for each data line at the $59.99 promotional price and agree to a 2 yr service agreement on the data line. To verify data coverage areas you can view maps of our digital coverage area at the following link:
  12. #32  
    I completely confused reading their reply. But I am using the 700p on Verizon with a MacBook Pro and tethering (the official way). What you need for this is:

    Computer:
    Treo 700p:
    Voice plan (cheapest I know of for this is the $39.99 450 minutes)
    Broadband PDA unlimited data ($44.99)
    BroadbandAccess Connect (this is the tethering option $15)

    The last is the hard one. Most of there reps don't seem to know about this. Be persistent and use words like BroadbandAccess Connect or Tethering Option and most will figure it out eventually.

    With this I can use the Treo and connect via Bluetooth. You can get the Verizon Access Manager software online but it only support bluetooth on the Mac and isn't really needed. If you want USB tethering there is third party Treo software called USB Modem which you can use for this.
    Main Phone: Treo 270/600/650/700w/700p/750v/Motorola Q/iPhone
    Tried but sold: Motorola Q/Nokia E61/700wx/HTC TyTN/Treo 680
  13. #33  
    Thanks for the info. The CSR was muddled, but did seem to know what the tethering was. I have a voice plan. So it seeems that if I get the Treo and the $59.99 plan, I should be good to go.
  14. #34  
    Just got the 700p and installed all the related stuff, seems to be working fine, after putting some effort into it. Try www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ to see how fast it is. After accidentally using the Apple modem setting and getting download speed of 131, I have changed to the CDMA modem script and got 417. Will experiment with the others, but both BT and USB connections are working great. Thanks for the all help this forum provided, probably saved me hours.
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    wow....super fast! good bye to DSL.
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    Has anybody got a 700p and a powerbook running OSX 10.4.7 with the newest security update working with bluetooth DUN?

    I can get it working with the USB modem demo, but I had it working without any 3rd party at one point and have not been able to get it to work recently. I feel like I've tried everything.
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  17. #37  
    I have the Verizon 700p working fine with a MacBook Pro with 10.4.7 and the latest security update via bluetooth DUN.
    Main Phone: Treo 270/600/650/700w/700p/750v/Motorola Q/iPhone
    Tried but sold: Motorola Q/Nokia E61/700wx/HTC TyTN/Treo 680
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    ok, the only difference is mines a powerbook, what script are you using?
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  19. #39  
    I've used both the Verizon Support (PC5220) script and the the Verizon 1x EVDO Modem Script file installed by the VZW Access Manager software. They both seem to work the same.

    I have found that sometimes the 700p gets into a state where DUN doesn't work. But after a soft reset everything works fine. If you haven't tried that, I would do a soft reset of the Treo and see if it works.

    I also had a problem a few weeks ago where it would connect but not transfer data. I finally called Verizon, they reset something and it has been working OK since.
    Main Phone: Treo 270/600/650/700w/700p/750v/Motorola Q/iPhone
    Tried but sold: Motorola Q/Nokia E61/700wx/HTC TyTN/Treo 680
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    ...sorry
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