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    Newbie Question
    Whats the process for transferring all your info and programs from the 650 to the 700??
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    Hi Treonewyork !!

    How? The old fashioned way. (An ounce of pervention is worth a pound of cure.)

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=114128

    Cheers, Perry.
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    Im not sure I understand the process...
    do i just put the new treo in the cradle and press hotsynch?
    how do you not let certain programs/apps go to the new treo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by treonewyork
    Im not sure I understand the process...
    do i just put the new treo in the cradle and press hotsynch?
    how do you not let certain programs/apps go to the new treo?
    No, no, no. (It would work -- but I would be afraid of some 650 settings or trash -- messing with the 700P)

    http://treo.discuss.treocentral.com/...80&postcount=2

    Follow the instructions here, but instead of 600==>650 you will be doing 650===>700P. This is the safest route. The neatfreak pack from Northglide
    would be a good first item to install -- it helps you later -- if you run into a rouge 3rd party app you want to uninstall.

    Cheers, Perry.
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    Perry -

    What about the PhoneFavorites2DB.PDB and Blazer_Bookmarks.PDB files? After I get the 700p loaded as described in your instructions, can I copy these files to my new backup folder and then hot sync? If possible I would like to avoid having to manually enter my Phone favorites and Blazer bookmarks.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambtreo
    Perry -

    What about the PhoneFavorites2DB.PDB and Blazer_Bookmarks.PDB files? After I get the 700p loaded as described in your instructions, can I copy these files to my new backup folder and then hot sync? If possible I would like to avoid having to manually enter my Phone favorites and Blazer bookmarks.

    Thanks

    Hi ambtreo !!

    Never done that. Want to be our guinea pig?

    (However, I would think those two files would not be a problem.)

    Cheers, Perry.
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    I found this on palms website...this procedure would work for us right?
    How do I upgrade from a Palm OS device to a Visor or Treo organizer?

    If you own a Palm OS product, such as a Handspring, Palm, HandEra, Kyocera, Sony Clie, Symbol, or Samsung device, you can upgrade to a Visor with a few quick steps.

    Whether you use Palm Desktop, Microsoft Outlook, or another Personal Information Manager (PIM), the HotSync Manager application links your PIM to Palm Desktop. Palm Desktop stores data in a consistent way, regardless of which type of Palm OS handheld you are upgrading, or which PIM you use in the long run. Follow the steps below.

    To upgrade to a Visor from a Palm OS device:

    1.

    Synchronize your old Palm OS device with your desktop computer.
    2.

    On your desktop computer, find your User Folder (info. here). Duplicate the folder and put it in a safe place. (In Windows, copy the folder and then paste a copy to another folder. On Macintosh, select the folder and Option-drag a copy to another folder.)
    3.

    Inside your User Folder, there is a folder called Backup. Open this folder and delete all of the items within this folder. Note: Make sure you did step 2 before doing this.
    4.

    Install the latest version of Handspring's Palm Desktop software, either from the CD that came with your new handheld or from our site (get it here). Install the software in the same folder as your current Palm Desktop software. See our instructions for Macintosh.
    5.

    Synchronize your new Handspring handheld with your desktop computer. Associate your old user name with your new handheld. Skip this step if the installer already prompted you to synchronize with your new handheld.
    6.

    Read through the paragraphs below for additional important instructions.

    Your personal information is in place
    You should now have your DateBook, Address Book, To Do and Memo data from your old handheld on the new handheld. If you do not, manually copy the folder you saved in step 2 into the User folder in your Palm (or Handspring) folder. See also Why did my data disappear after I installed the latest version of Handspring's Palm Desktop software?

    Copy important settings across
    You may have Network or connection preferences set up on your old handheld. Copy these manually to the new handheld. See How do I configure my handheld to connect to an ISP (Internet service provider)?

    Move third-party programs and data
    You should manually beam any third-party applications that were not duplicated to your new handheld. See How do I exchange beamed data or applications between Palm OS devices? If you know the correct files to install, go to the copy of your old Backup folder and double click the relevant .prc and .pdb files to re-install them using the Install tool.

    Erase the old handheld or username.
    To avoid confusion, hard reset to erase all your personal data
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    The above basically is the same steps as a clean install -- however -- I would suggest intalling 3rd party software fresh to the new device -- not a beam over or a copy from a backup. This just insures you have a clean install on your new device and no unwanted data is brought over to the new device. This unwanted data may or may not be a hinderance in the future -- but I err on the side of why chance it?(Get the latest version while you are at it.)

    Cheers, Perry.
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    I waited out the 650.
    Any word yet as to how this transfer will be the best accomplished?
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    I would do the same as a 600===>650.

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=115075

    Cheers, Perry
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    I'm just going to make a copy of my profile on my computer and then sync up the 700p to the same ID. If it works, great. If not then I'll just do a hard reset and then restore the backup of my profile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden
    Hi ambtreo !!

    Never done that. Want to be our guinea pig?

    (However, I would think those two files would not be a problem.)

    Cheers, Perry.
    Perry -

    I would be glad to be the guinea pig. I think that it should work as I have done that in the past when I had to hard reset the 650. I will let you know either next Tuesday or Friday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden
    Hi Treonewyork !!

    How? The old fashioned way. (An ounce of pervention is worth a pound of cure.)

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=114128

    Cheers, Perry.
    Perry:

    To my understanding, only 3rd party apps get placed in the backup folder. Doesn't some of the phone settings and other crap get placed in other locations ? That's why I always went for the more thorough route:

    Procedure for upgrading from one Palm Device to Another:

    1. Synch old Treo for last time.
    2. Go to C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\[your username] and copy the entire folder soemwhere else just to be safe.
    3. If your old Treo stuff is in C:\ProgramFiles\Palm install new Treo Palm Desktop to C:\ProgramFiles\Palmone
    4. Hard Reset your new Treo.
    5. Hotsync new Treo
    6. Install ROM Update if applicable
    7. Copy the following files:

    address.dat from C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\[your username]\address to C:\ProgramFiles\PalmOne\[your username]\address
    memopad.dat from C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\[your username]\memopad to C:\ProgramFiles\PalmOne\[your username]\memopad
    todo.dat from C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\[your username]\todo to C:\ProgramFiles\PalmOne\[your username]\todo
    datebook.dat from C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\[your username]\datebook to C:\ProgramFiles\PalmOne\[your username]\datebook

    8. Hotsync ... RTFM and use the phone this way for 3-7 days to make sure no issues. Download latest versions of all your programs in meantime. Read about built in Dataviz tech tool.
    9. Install Northglide's Uninstall Manager to track your program installations.
    10. Install PowerRUN or an equivalent to move programs to card.
    11. Use Dataviz tech tool to move Docs2Go to card
    12. Install Programs from Palm CD ... one program at a time...that is one program per HotSync
    13. Again use for 3-4 days to look for problems.
    14. Go thru your programs list and rank programs from small and uncomplicated to big, heavy memory users. Any hacks or progranms that require they be installed in main memory best left to last. Again one program per Hotsync so UM can track what files go in with what program. Only reasoning here is that you can probably get away with installing 6-7 small , simple programs per day whereas something big or which ties into system calls should be left to last and be installed alone. This will better enable you to diagnose any conflicts.
    15. Install a few programs per day making sure no problems have surfaced, again starting with smallest/simplest to largest/most complicated.
    16. If you can manage, I'd leave biggies like TomTom, EDGE, Snapper /Chatter to last and install those last few 1 program a day.
    17. If at any point problems kick up, you can easily retrace your steps with UM to find the offending program.
    18. Make sure you have a backup progam installed. Check Best Utilities thread for listings and url's.
    19. This shoulda been listed earlier but any programs that tie themselves to a specific device will need new registration numbers.
    20. If all is right with the world, delete the OLD C:\ProgramFiles\Palm\ directory not the new [B]PalmOne one you just created.
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    Jack,

    If you install the NEW Palm Desktop to a different (new) directory from where your old one was, when you hotsync for the first time with a new device will you see/be able to use your OLD user ID? Seems to me that if you create a new directory for the Palm files there will be no recognition of a user ID associated with the old directory. If that is the case I suppose you can re-use your previous ID (manually type it in) the first time you hotsync so that programs which are dependent on that ID will work on the new device.

    Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
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    That's what I;d do Gasman ....last time for me tho I made a new one as I had no programs tied to userID from my old Vx.
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    Muchas gracias amigo!
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    thank you sir,
    apparently this is a low volume inquiry, but I appreciate your response as well as all the usefull as hell info you post.
    I hope your girl is happy too!!!
    D
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    Can anyone help with a good rule of thumb?
    When I receive the new 700p should I still use my 650 hotsync ID? Or should I create a new one and start fresh so no junk gets on the 700p and create program problems that are not compatible from the 650?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericroberts
    Can anyone help with a good rule of thumb?
    When I receive the new 700p should I still use my 650 hotsync ID? Or should I create a new one and start fresh so no junk gets on the 700p and create program problems that are not compatible from the 650?
    If you purchased programs under your 650 ID and plan on moving them to the 700, you should use the same name. Otherwise, your apps would not be registered on the 700.
    Treo 600 > Treo 650 > Treo 700p > Treo 700wx -> Mogul -> Touch Pro
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