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  1. #21  
    I don't understand why anybody would prefer to start a new thread and wait for (hopefully) a useful response. I personally find it to be faster and much more efficient to search for my answers. Seriously if you are careful about the search terms used and parameters set you should have no problem finding an answer on the first page of results, usually in the first 2-3 entries. I know I never have any troubles with this, unless the topic is new, at which point I start a new thread.
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  2. #22  
    I remember being tentative about posting my first thread so did as thorough a search I could to ensure what I had asked hadn't been brought up before.
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  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by fwinst
    Nice post. For those who learn visually, here's a little film to illustrate.

    http://www.linuxbench.org/Posting.html
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    Where did you find that?

    That is F'in Hilarious!!!!
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  4. #24  
    Unfortunately, you are preaching to the converted. The noobs will probably miss this but it's a useful reminder to all of us anyway. Thanks for the effort.
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by leadtrumpetdave
    I don't understand why anybody would prefer to start a new thread and wait for (hopefully) a useful response. I personally find it to be faster and much more efficient to search for my answers. Seriously if you are careful about the search terms used and parameters set you should have no problem finding an answer on the first page of results, usually in the first 2-3 entries. I know I never have any troubles with this, unless the topic is new, at which point I start a new thread.
    the 700p is not going to be new forever. in a year somebody's going to get one, find this site, and will see a bazillion posts on a bazillion topics, and be completely overwhelmed. also, not everyone is as familiar with messageboard culture or how to do good searches as many of the regular posters here...
  6. #26  
    Regarding Searching First, I have heard arguments from both sides.
    So whether one has an excuse for why they start a new thread or not, the end result is a bigger problem for others. (Bazillion Threads on the Same Topic.)
    Let's pretend I'm the New Guy. I just found this Forum, and now, do I first see if there is standard of expectation from me? Or do I just jump in and start doing things my way?
    If I take a little time to figure out how it all works, it stays more organized, and I have only inconvenienced myself. (I did the Work for Myself) But if I just start new threads on everything I think of, I have inconvenienced others by creating more clutter for everyone else to deal with.
    Starting a new thread because of not being familiar w/ how things are done may be an excuse for a noob, but one should catch on pretty quickly. And nobody should be made feel bad because they asked them to do a Search.
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    #27  
    You know I don't mean to sound like an a$$hole BUT

    I'm really getting fed up with people jumping newbie cases from not having properly searched the forum before asking a question. You might be able to find it because you remember the dicussion, and searches are not all knowing.

    People have become more and more of jerk-offs about it too (not just here, in fact here it's not that bad). All of us at one point or another were newbies and looking for help.

    What's the bigger waste, a question posted for the 10th time or yet another thread with no point that gets hundreds of useless off-topic replies? Is it ok for those of us that have 'been here' to waste thread space but not no-one else??

    Get over it and be friendly to the newbs!!!!!!
    Last edited by jimn367; 06/08/2006 at 02:13 PM.
  8. #28  
    Actually it seems as if the forum software could have some rule like -

    IF (NEWTHREAD = TRUE) and (POSTS < 10) THEN SUGGEST (THEY READ THE FAQ and USE THE SEARCH and TELL THEM THE COMMON THING PEOPLE FORGET TO MENTION [model, carrier, os platform, etc.])

    Heck if it was really smart it could remember if the person has recently done a search

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    #29  
    As far as searching, there are a lot of variables out there. For instance, if someone is a newbie and doesn't know correct terminology or the actual name of something they're looking for then a search might not bring the response they are looking for. I often get a blank search response even when searching for something I know for a fact exists on the site. So instead of taking the time to reply that someone "do a search", take the time to do a search related to the posters question and attach your findings to your reply. i.e. "I did a search for _______ and here's what I came up with, hope it helps!" Since I often read that it doesn't take long to do a search, take that small amount of time and really help the poster. Perhaps you know a better way to search, or better keyword to search with. Otherwise, just don't post anything and move on. You're wasting your time and ours by posting a "do a search" comment.
    It's like Mommie Dearest says: "If you can't do something right don't do it at all"!
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  10. #30  
    Most of the time when I search this knowledgible forum...I find what I am looking for.
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  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by randyg
    As far as searching, there are a lot of variables out there. For instance, if someone is a newbie and doesn't know correct terminology or the actual name of something they're looking for then a search might not bring the response they are looking for. I often get a blank search response even when searching for something I know for a fact exists on the site. So instead of taking the time to reply that someone "do a search", take the time to do a search related to the posters question and attach your findings to your reply. i.e. "I did a search for _______ and here's what I came up with, hope it helps!" Since I often read that it doesn't take long to do a search, take that small amount of time and really help the poster. Perhaps you know a better way to search, or better keyword to search with. Otherwise, just don't post anything and move on. You're wasting your time and ours by posting a "do a search" comment.
    It's like Mommie Dearest says: "If you can't do something right don't do it at all"!
    So we should not ask them to search?
    Are you saying we should not mention the "Forum Guidline: To Search Before We Post"?

    So the noob asks: (Post #1 ) 'What's the Flashing Snowflake Thingy?" We just tell him, and give him a Link?
    So now the noob asks: (Post #2) "Why is my Hotsync hanging at my Contacts?" or "My computer says it Doesn't Recognize the USB Device"
    So the noob just goes on, starting new Threads, everytime they need an answer.

    To use an illustration:
    What do you do when you go into a Library, Do you just go sit down and ask the people around you anything you want to know?
    What if one of those people asked you to go and try to find the answer in one of the many books on that subject?
    Just call me Berd.
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    #32  
    Yes you should not just reply with "why don't you just search". What is the point of a post like that other than to be inflammatory and insulting to the person.

    The poster either:
    1) Is new to BBs and is seeking help (yes there are still a lot of people like that)
    2) Has tried searching, but couldn't find what they wanted (yes that really does happen)
    3) They could be a little absent minded and not thought about searching
    4) They are just a lazy sloth trying to get you to do their bidding

    In all cases except for #4 it is inapporpriate to just repy with "Why don't you try searching" and hang up the phone so to speak. If you know of a thread, at least have the courtesy to say "I seem to remember a thread on this topic try searching on XXXXX or YYYYY and you should be able to find it". Jsut good manners and common courtesy.

    Jumping their crap is rude and wrong. How about everytime (sorry to be taking your names in vain guys I'm just illustrating a point here) Viking, Perry and Gstrauss start goofing on each other we shut down the thread and start slamming them for wasting our time?? Theat would be rediculous. They, and their personalities are part of the fabric of this site.

    My point is this is a community, welcome those that are new, help those that need help, and post - that's the point of a forum.
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by jimn367
    ...clip... If you know of a thread, at least have the courtesy to say "I seem to remember a thread on this topic try searching on XXXXX or YYYYY and you should be able to find it". Jsut good manners and common courtesy.
    ...cilp...
    I think that's the perfect response.
    Just call me Berd.
  14.    #34  
    Also politly refer them to this thread and especially the video link, that thing is priceless!!!
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    #35  
    Well there is some hope for all of you grizzled Treo veterans. I'm a Treo n00b (just got my first Treo over a week ago) and I found and read this thread first before posting.

    I do post in another forum and yes the search function is an underused item there as well. So much so that the "Posting and You" PSA posted earlier is a permanent sticky. I loved that PSA so much I made Little Billy my avatar.

    Anyway thanks for having a very informational forum and I'll see you on the boards.
    Mole
  16. #36  
    I just wanted to say that the mods and admins do a good job here, I just reported my first problem thread, a porno spam with links to active porno websites, and the mod who got my message pulled the plug in less than 2 minutes, which is why some of you probably never even saw it. It was nothing that a google search could'nt find 6 billion versions of, but I don't know what that guy was thinking, was he thinking that he could actually sell porn on TC forums? It wasn't even good jiggly Hooters girls boobies type porn, it was skanky I'm wearing a raincoat and big hat kind of porn. Anyway, to the mod who's manning the switch today, you earned your pay, or whatever it is that TC gives you for good work done
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    #37  
    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Well there is some hope for all of you grizzled Treo veterans. I'm a Treo n00b (just got my first Treo over a week ago) and I found and read this thread first before posting.

    I do post in another forum and yes the search function is an underused item there as well. So much so that the "Posting and You" PSA posted earlier is a permanent sticky. I loved that PSA so much I made Little Billy my avatar.

    Anyway thanks for having a very informational forum and I'll see you on the boards.
    Awesome.
  18. #38  
    Why doesn't my 700p have WiFi?
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  19. #39  
    this question has be asked a lot try searching the thread for more answers. But all I know that wifi drains the battery faster, the deal with wireless compaines and some others. But there is a beta out for a wifi sled that is working on the 700p. But it is still unstable but hopefully soon it will work and the 700p will support wifi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jreagles21 View Post
    this question has be asked a lot try searching the thread for more answers. But all I know that wifi drains the battery faster, the deal with wireless compaines and some others. But there is a beta out for a wifi sled that is working on the 700p. But it is still unstable but hopefully soon it will work and the 700p will support wifi.
    jreagles, I was just being sarcastic. I've been a part of these forums since my Palm Vx. I've seen this question asked a billion^10^10...etc...ergo...add infinitum...slash nuseaumo.....during the era of my treo650 and the reign of Shadowmite....the universe seemed to be in the right alignment for wifi and the treo...but alas......
    Regards,

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