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    1src posted an article, someone sent them their 1st thoughts on the Treo 700p.

    http://www.1src.com/headlines/show/001550.html
    Jimmie Geddes
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    "Time syncs with (more accurate) time server, rather than network - I noticed about a 20 second difference between my phone and the 700..."

    Good move; "Enable Local Network Time..." has been the cause of many a problem on the Treo 650.
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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    First line of the article, "An anonymous source just sent in the following details of the 700p that could be released on Monday. No pictures though." How is this any different than the numerous rumor threads started here?
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    6 Bars reception display with new chip for more senesitivity!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . . . . .


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    Rumor: 700p first thoughts

    Last update: 05-12-2006 Submitted by Joel


    An anonymous source just sent in the following details of the 700p that could be released on Monday. No pictures though.

    "A few quick observations (many you may already be aware of, I'm sure)

    1) Web browsing via EV-DO is like going from dialup to broadband. This is worth the price of admission right there.
    2) 62 MB internal RAM
    3) Comes with a bunch of nice apps - ptunes 3.06 is one
    4) You already know about the bigger keys and much more functional 5-way button thingie. Considerably easier to use, I'd say.
    5) Battery life is supposed to be improved. (as if that ever was an issue).
    6) Sound quality seems better and louder without VolumeCare
    7) Much faster display due to faster CPU - has a noticeably peppier feel.
    8) Camcorder and Camera much nicer - improved resloution
    9) Camera optics are a little smaller (take up a little less real estate on the back)
    10) Beaming opening is about 50% smaller
    11) Side switches are flat, not curved. I like them.
    12) Speaker grill is bigger (square) instead of roundish
    13) No software compatibility issues encountered in testing
    14) Very stable. Currently in 8th firmware rev
    15) Power cycling (removing/replacing battery) remembers previous operational state - if phone was on, it will turn on automatically.
    16) Time syncs with (more accurate) time server, rather than network - I noticed about a 20 second difference between my phone and the 700

    No pics were allowed, I'm afraid. To prevent such things, there were special black marks on a variety places around the screen, which pretty much precluded anything but a close-up of the actual screen.

    I should add that the signal strength indicator has six little bars instead of the current four. The engineer said that the 700 uses a different chip for signal reception, which is more sensitive than the 650.

    I'm also not exactly sure of the technical details behind the better timekeeping. I may have gotten it backwards. Suffice it to say that it is supposed be a considerably more accurate time keeper."

    Last March 19, 2006, we posted a Sprint 700p picture. The 700p, according to our source, will not initially be offered by Verizon.
    Last edited by gtwo; 05/13/2006 at 09:39 AM.
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    That reminds me of the movie Spinal Tap. This exchange about them being the loudest band because their amps go to 11...enjoy. And yes this may be one of the greatest movies ever made...

    Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
    Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
    Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
    Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
    Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
    Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
    Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
    Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
    Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
    Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
    Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
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    If all the above is true, that more than makes it worth my while to upgrade to the 700p from the 650.

    A new receiver? More sensitivity? I agree with Perry, oooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    Faster display (I assume this means when jumping between apps, etc) will make things nicer too - that was the one thing I didn't like going from the 600 to the 650.

    I'm genuinely excited for this phone now. The only question is, how do I convince my wife that its worth spending nearly $700 on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkY
    First line of the article, "An anonymous source just sent in the following details of the 700p that could be released on Monday. No pictures though." How is this any different than the numerous rumor threads started here?
    It's different because on this rare occasion, a 700p story (or rumor) actually originates somewhere other than TC!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some other site

    16) Time syncs with (more accurate) time server, rather than network - I noticed about a 20 second difference between my phone and the 700
    I don't understand this one at all.

    I have a Sprint Treo 600 (not 650) so maybe that's why I don't understand it, but my Treo 600 has perfect time. When compared to an NTP controlled time server, the time is identical -- certainly within a fraction of a second.

    CDMA networks themselves must have highly accurate time sources in order to function properly. That is why CDMA radios can be used as Stratum 1 time sources in the NTP system (along with WWV, GPS, atomic clock).

    --Jim--
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    Ok, he does say "quick observations". But this is a rather untechnical review.

    "A few quick observations (many you may already be aware of, I'm sure)

    1) Web browsing via EV-DO is like going from dialup to broadband. This is worth the price of admission right there.
    Speeds?
    2) 62 MB internal RAM
    3) Comes with a bunch of nice apps - ptunes 3.06 is one
    That was only one.
    4) You already know about the bigger keys and much more functional 5-way button thingie. Considerably easier to use, I'd say.
    5) Battery life is supposed to be improved. (as if that ever was an issue).
    6) Sound quality seems better and louder without VolumeCare
    7) Much faster display due to faster CPU - has a noticeably peppier feel.
    8) Camcorder and Camera much nicer - improved resloution
    9) Camera optics are a little smaller (take up a little less real estate on the back)
    10) Beaming opening is about 50% smaller
    Unless this thing has a demolcularizing transporter, I think he means the infrared port.
    11) Side switches are flat, not curved. I like them.
    12) Speaker grill is bigger (square) instead of roundish
    13) No software compatibility issues encountered in testing
    What software?
    14) Very stable. Currently in 8th firmware rev
    15) Power cycling (removing/replacing battery) remembers previous operational state - if phone was on, it will turn on automatically.
    16) Time syncs with (more accurate) time server, rather than network - I noticed about a 20 second difference between my phone and the 700

    No pics were allowed, I'm afraid. To prevent such things, there were special black marks on a variety places around the screen, which pretty much precluded anything but a close-up of the actual screen.

    I should add that the signal strength indicator has six little bars instead of the current four. The engineer said that the 700 uses a different chip for signal reception, which is more sensitive than the 650.
    Ok, that last one got me a little excited.
    I'm also not exactly sure of the technical details behind the better timekeeping. I may have gotten it backwards. Suffice it to say that it is supposed be a considerably more accurate time keeper."
    Has this been an issue? I always allowed Sprint's netork to keep time for me. Never had a problem.

    This is sorely lacking the real meat.
    I find it sad/odd that people ask to be thanked. How genuine is it when you have to ask? It's like forcing your kid to call Grandma, to thank her for the new underwear she sent for their birthday.

    "To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
    -Jack Handy, SNL-


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    infrared port 50% smaller???

    Does it mean it will be even weaker then treo650 infrared?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentMember
    infrared port 50% smaller???

    Does it mean it will be even weaker then treo650 infrared?

    No...just smaller...same size as 700W
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    Um...most of those i had mentioned when I had my 700p. The radio not only adds sensitivity, but reception was noticeably better than other phones because of it. CPU, however, is still 312MHz (at least in the one I had).
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    No news, next?
    Freedom of some speech in the US, through someone in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D
    Um...most of those i had mentioned when I had my 700p. The radio not only adds sensitivity, but reception was noticeably better than other phones because of it. CPU, however, is still 312MHz (at least in the one I had).
    It is 312 MHZ but a newer generation processor.
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    This is the only part that just kills me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden
    The 700p, according to our source, will not initially be offered by Verizon.
    Great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headgamer
    This is the only part that just kills me...



    Great.

    The above quote was from the article I quoted. . . . . . not me:

    I think it will be a joint announcement on Monday -- both Sprint and Verizon.

    Cheers, Perry.
    Last edited by gtwo; 05/13/2006 at 03:50 PM.
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    May 15th is the perfect day for an announcement, my birthday
    Wisdom sheds light on the knowledge you have accumulated

    Palm Pre (Sprint)
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    Speaking of specs, does anybody know about how well the SD card fits? The 600 was miserable and I had to shave down the card in order to keep if from ejecting at the time. The 650 is only a little better than the the 600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franko515
    May 15th is the perfect day for an announcement, my birthday

    Perfect!!

    And many, many, many more Franko515 !!

    Cheers, Perry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalenMD
    Speaking of specs, does anybody know about how well the SD card fits? The 600 was miserable and I had to shave down the card in order to keep if from ejecting at the time. The 650 is only a little better than the the 600.
    Interesting Galen. I never had the 600 (waited for a better screen), but the SD card works well in my Sprint 650. . . . . . . .
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