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  1. #41  
    I had better success using a Torx 4 yesterday. The fitting into the screws was a lot nicer. Who knows, maybe there was just enough dirt accumulated through the year for a Torx 4 to do what I needed.

    Many suggest a Torx 5, I suggest a Torx 4 - Can't go wrong having both.
  2. #42  
    I feel the need to give the man his props. Not only is he a great help for his blogsite, but nonobeez has provided me (for a price) the exact antenna I needed for my phone. All the retailers I tried going through either gave me the run around, didn't have the specific antenna, or didn't bother to reply at all. Also should be said that those pictures that were posted must have been taken at an angle against the light, because someone noted that there was a crack in the base, but I can see no crack in this whatsoever; it's more like an ever-so-slight bend, but I believe it to be factory design. Regardless, this is in immaculate condition, so nonobeez, I personally thank you for helping me out.

    EDIT - WOW! My Reception is fantastic now! I feel like I won the lottery getting back my 4 bars! LOL! MANY MANY THANKS!
    Last edited by Reigh; 04/29/2006 at 01:08 PM.
  3. #43  
    Thanks! Actually, the pictured antenna was cracked and didn't notice it until someone mentioned it. I put it to good use for prototype stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by Reigh
    I feel the need to give the man his props. Not only is he a great help for his blogsite, but nonobeez has provided me (for a price) the exact antenna I needed for my phone. All the retailers I tried going through either gave me the run around, didn't have the specific antenna, or didn't bother to reply at all. Also should be said that those pictures that were posted must have been taken at an angle against the light, because someone noted that there was a crack in the base, but I can see no crack in this whatsoever; it's more like an ever-so-slight bend, but I believe it to be factory design. Regardless, this is in immaculate condition, so nonobeez, I personally thank you for helping me out.

    EDIT - WOW! My Reception is fantastic now! I feel like I won the lottery getting back my 4 bars! LOL! MANY MANY THANKS!
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  4. #44  
    Just wondering.. ever though of putting the antenna in the treo body itself? Since the antenna is a coiled wire PCB plastic as shown on treotricks, can we flatten it and find a way to put it within the body?
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    #45  
    Flattening it would render it much less effective. There's no technical reason why the antenna can't be internal - lots of phones do that - but it is more effective where it is. I don't think there's room inside a Treo for a proper antenna.
  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by holmes4
    Flattening it would render it much less effective. There's no technical reason why the antenna can't be internal - lots of phones do that - but it is more effective where it is. I don't think there's room inside a Treo for a proper antenna.
    I actually have an internal antenna... works great! Not the original antenna uncoiled though and I am not sure how well it would work for the 850-900MHz bands.
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  7. #47  
    Hmm... if I have one spare antenna, I would like to think of putting the antenna in. I don't think 'it is more effective where it is' makes any sense since 90+% of the phones have their antenna inbuilt as part of the body.

    Looks like nonobeez has actually placed an internal antenna in. Hmm.. now, where can I get one spare for my unlocked GSM model to try it out.
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  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by Ddeath
    Hmm... if I have one spare antenna, I would like to think of putting the antenna in. I don't think 'it is more effective where it is' makes any sense since 90+% of the phones have their antenna inbuilt as part of the body.

    Looks like nonobeez has actually placed an internal antenna in. Hmm.. now, where can I get one spare for my unlocked GSM model to try it out.
    Reigh has one, just beat up a bit. I made my own antenna from a thin copper sheet.

    kinda pointless to install an internal antenna if you cant cover the hole of the existing antenna.
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  9. #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by nonobeez
    Reigh has one, just beat up a bit. I made my own antenna from a thin copper sheet.

    kinda pointless to install an internal antenna if you cant cover the hole of the existing antenna.
    My previous antenna is broken at the base where the screw would hold it in place, plus the plastic that is covering the tail end of the copper has also snapped, so more or less, its a quick-release antenna. That tail end piece made all the difference in the world to get the copper pieces touching each other. I'm including a picture for you to see what I'm talking about.

    http://tk.files.storage.msn.com/x1pM...PeFodLMZL_67Sc

    It's not impossible to get signal, just frustrating to push in all the time when I needed reception. If you think this might meet your needs to test with, let me know.
  10. #50  
    Thanks for your offer Reigh, but I'm not too sure about it as I have not done this before. And I stay in Singapore, which will be way off for you to send it to me.

    I think the hole of the existing antenna can be covered up with some rubber/plastic which I can machine up in my company's workshop. So shouldn't be any issue, IF I can get my hands on one antenna here.
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  11. #51  
    Guys,

    I'm working on a design and manufacturing of a new antenna that will be shorter and will not break like the original one.

    I'd appriciate it if you can give me feedback on the design and how much would you like to have one.

    http://www.siamstarmuaythai.com/misc/santenna.jpg
  12. #52  
    Looks pretty cool. Be waiting for your product. If we can get this, we can save our money and forget about the so called 'Hollywood' model.
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  13. #53  
    I should hopefully have a prototype by early june.
  14. #54  
    Quad-band or CDMA? Will the antenna be a difference? Looking at treotricks, there are two wire antenna accommodating different frequency right?
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  15. #55  
    Quote Originally Posted by zoti
    Guys,

    I'm working on a design and manufacturing of a new antenna that will be shorter and will not break like the original one.

    I'd appriciate it if you can give me feedback on the design and how much would you like to have one.

    http://www.siamstarmuaythai.com/misc/santenna.jpg
    Pretty slick!

    Any samples for testing? what are you doing for the new shorter cover? Looks like to halves pasted together.
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  16. #56  
    That looks very nice. I'd love to have 1 of those. Please keep us posted...
  17. #57  
    Quote Originally Posted by nonobeez
    Pretty slick!

    Any samples for testing? what are you doing for the new shorter cover? Looks like to halves pasted together.
    This is only a photoshop mock up. It doesn't really exists yet. I made it so I can show my manufacturer what I want it to look like.

    From what I have seen the Treo uses the same antenna for its GSM and CDMA models. GSM uses 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHZ. CDMA is 900 & 1800MHZ.

    The reason they have 2 wires (at least I think this is the reason) is to cover 1/4 and 1/2 wave lenght.

    I'm not an antenna designer but I have someone who is and he will design the antenna and make sure it is to specifications. From testings I have done it is possible to make a shorter antenna that will go inside the body of the phone. I got the exact same reception with my test model as I did with my original antenna (which obviously broke off like most Treo antennas).
  18. #58  
    Looks like a good idea. The main reason for my old antenna breaking, aside from my Treo falling on the ground ( ), was perhaps in part due to the length of the antenna. The larger the antenna, the greater the chances of it being another point of impact. Having it shorter I think would reduce the chances of base snapping as mine did when it impacted against the ground, should a Treo with this antenna design ever be dropped. Plus, since there's less of an antenna, there's less of it getting in the way of anything physically.

    I say if it performs just as well, if not better, go for it!
  19. #59  
    anyone have an extra coil lying around.. that sticker part? i accidently tore one of the traces so i get max... two bars.. bleh. is there a way i can just solder the trace so its linked again? or do i need to get another antenna label thing?
  20. #60  
    There is this thing that looks like nail polish and is for the purpose of fixing PCBs. I'm not sure what it is called but I used it to fix my own antenna which I broke while taking it apart.
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