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  1.    #1  
    Yeah I know I'm being really lazy here and if your only reply will be to do a search please skip this thread. If you are the helpful type, like me, I appreciate your help and thank you in advance!

    After 5 months of using a 6700 I am going back to my 650. My new insurance replacement 650 arrives this week and I want to flash the latest greatest ROM to it. I have not been keeping up with the latest Shadowmite triumphs and thought someone could link me to or PM me with best ROMs out there.

    Any help?

    Anyone wondering why the switch after all this time with a 6700 can be summed up by "usability". While the 6700 had some nice extras, they didn't make up for the lack of one handed or even two handed ease of use.

    Thanks again!
    Scraps of paper>>Back of my hand>>Kyo 6035>>Treo 600>>Treo 650>>PPC6700(Sold on Fleabay)>>Treo 650>>Treo 700p>>Treo 755p and still thinking about an iPhone
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    Quote Originally Posted by speclcajun
    Yeah I know I'm being really lazy here and if your only reply will be to do a search please skip this thread. If you are the helpful type, like me, I appreciate your help and thank you in advance!

    After 5 months of using a 6700 I am going back to my 650. My new insurance replacement 650 arrives this week and I want to flash the latest greatest ROM to it. I have not been keeping up with the latest Shadowmite triumphs and thought someone could link me to or PM me with best ROMs out there.

    Any help?

    Anyone wondering why the switch after all this time with a 6700 can be summed up by "usability". While the 6700 had some nice extras, they didn't make up for the lack of one handed or even two handed ease of use.

    Thanks again!
    Start here:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...light=ROM+Tool

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...light=ROM+Tool
  3.    #4  
    Thanks for the replys. I shoulda known this would require at least some digging around. Let the search begin. Thanks again.
    Scraps of paper>>Back of my hand>>Kyo 6035>>Treo 600>>Treo 650>>PPC6700(Sold on Fleabay)>>Treo 650>>Treo 700p>>Treo 755p and still thinking about an iPhone
  4. #5  
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...ies+custom+rom

    Treocentral claims no responsibility for the information given here by me. I am not giving instruction on how you can make a custom ROM. I am just explaining how I made my custom ROM. If you attempt to take information I am giving to make your own ROM you must decide that it is totally fine for you if you permanently ruin your Treo.
    Please read shadowmites instructions first and also along with my story to get the utmost clarity.
    http://shadowmite.com/romInstruct.html
    http://shadowmite.com/roms.html
    I am a complete unskilled newbie but after days of reading information I was able to make a perfect ROM for my Sprint Treo 650. I gained 4 megs of RAM since I placed in ROM 4 megs of my 3rd party programs that would usually be in RAM. More importantly I got rid of the junk applications that wasted space and occasionally caused me problems, like versamail.
    First off I plugged my treo into the USB charger and synced, I also disabled by anti-virus and firewall software. Just so you know things appear differently depending on what carrier, radio type, PC programs installed and computer OS you have. I have a sprint CDMA Treo 650 and a windows XP home edition desktop computer. Also the files that I downloaded, created, copied or drag and dropped I tried to move or copy as little as possible to prevent corruption. The most important thing I can say is
    (1)Premature Treo deaths have occurred during ROM flashing due to palm OS zips having embedded directory. So I made sure that when I got to place my palmos.zip onto my memory card that it didn't contain any folders, just files. This comes later so this step is out of order but it is the most important so it comes first and will be repeated when we cross that bridge.
    (2) I went to http://www.palm.com/cgi-bin/cso_eul...l_template.html clicked I agree and downloaded the sprint treo 650 ROM update 1.12 since I have a sprint treo 650 and saved it to the desktop, other carrier's ROM updates are listed under support downloads on this page http://www.palm.com/us/support/ .
    (3) I unzipped or extracted the sprint update and double clicked the extracted installer, I clicked run, next, next, yes, next. I had already backedup so didn't click next again.
    (4) I right clicked the blue desktop screen on my computer and went to new, then folder and I named that folder ROM.
    (5) I right clicked the windows start button in the lower right hand corner of my computer, clicked explore, click program files, click palm one, I clicked my name, I clicked the install folder, I selected all the files in that folder and drug them to my newly created "ROM" folder I made on the desktop.
    (6) I then clicked cancel on the sprint update that was still waiting to run, then "yes" cancel.
    (7) I then went to this page http://shadowmite.com/roms.html on shadowmites site and downloaded the java T3 class, On that page it says "Download the class here". I saved the java T3 file to my “ROM” folder I created on the desktop.
    (8 ) Shadowmites site said To use it first off you need to have Sun Java installed on your machine. so I went to http://java.sun.com/ and downloaded the Windows Platform J2SE(TM)RuntimeEnvironment 5.0 Update 5, I clicked Windows Online Installation, clicked run, run.
    (9) I clicked the start menu on my computer then clicked "all programs", accessories, command prompt. This brought up a black box with text showing a directory, you know what a directory is right? C:\Documents and Settings\Hello> This is when things got really friggen hard. After 4 hours I figured out that I had to type cd Desktop\ROM then press enter. so it looked like this
    C:\Documents and Settings\Hello>cd Desktop\ROM and then it printed C:\Documents and Settings\Hello\Desktop\ROM> And then I typed java T3 That created 13 files and 3 zip files in my "ROM" folder that I had created on my desktop. If it says class not found you may need to set the class path. In this case type
    set CLASSPATH=; C:\Documents and Settings\Hello\Desktop\ROM
    then hit enter, then type java T3
    (10) I right clicked on the blue screen of my desktop again and went "new", "folder" and named it "palm", then I went into this palm folder then right clicked and created a folder and named it launcher.
    (11) I went to my folder named ROM and drag and dropped 2 files CDMAFirmwareUpdaterApp_Device and ROMUpdaterApp over to my newly created launcher folder. If you are a GSM user please refer now to Checkmate's Important tips for GSM custom ROM creation http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...ad.php?t=106988
    (12) I then deleted the original prc and palm database (pdb) files that were in my ROM folder, (I snapped a picture of the screen and highlighted the files to delete in the attachments below named "delete original files" and "Donot delete zips or new files").
    (13) I then went to http://shadowmite.com/roms.html and clicked "Get it here PC” to download shadowmites custom ROM tool. I saved it to the desktop and unzipped it. I opened the T650Tool folder (it may open on its own) and double clicked T650Rom, clicked run.
    (14) In the left panel I double clicked “desktop“, double clicked my “ROM” folder, then in the middle panel I clicked one time the file named ace-palmos.zip, then I clicked the button on shadowmites tool named Open ROM Zip. It pulls all the files in the ROM into the center panel. I clicked the select all button on the top middle of the panel, that put all the files in the right panel.
    (15) I then went to http://www.shadowmite.com/filelist.pdf to view the pdf that tells you what is safe to delete.
    (16) For every file that the pdf said was safe to delete I double clicked that file in the right panel to delete it. Except for the blazer font and memo cause I like blazer and memo
    (17) I then went to the left panel and went to my back up folder by double clicking in the left panel the C:\ , I then double click program files, double click palmone, double click your hot sync ID, (you know your name), double click backup, that showed the files in my backup folder in the middle panel. If you wish to place applications in ROM from other than the backup folder, I recommend you run the application on the phone first to make sure the application doesnt need to run through an installation process similar to a NutShell Installer. If a prc needs to extract/load itself the first time it is ran then if it were in ROM it would have to run through that process every time it were ran but more likely it would just kill your phone.
    (18 ) I double clicked the files in the middle panel that I wished to add to my new custom ROM. I choose applications that were perfect so I wouldn't ever worry about updating them when an update comes out.
    *ONLY PRCs CAN GO IN ROM, NOT PDB* (the truth is that "readonly" pdb's can, but read only pdb's can also go on the card so its silly to put them in ROM.
    I choose hi-launcher
    treo select text
    treoguard
    splash money
    Bugme note pad
    megaclock and its pacific ocean prc
    spell check
    Treo alert manager
    Volkeys and a few others, I searched mytreo.net and treocentral for a list of applications that work in ROM.
    (19) I then clicked the button on the bottom left of shadowmites tool named Build it, I was lucky my ROM wasnt over 8 megabytes (8000000) the number on the bottom of shadowmites tool said 200000 left. If there were a minus sign -200000 I would then half to double click a file in the right panel to remove it and click build it untill the minus sign went away. When I saw no minus sign I clicked exit which created a folder on my desktop named New ROM or CustomROM. Within this folder was a file named ace-palmos.zip.md5 and a zip folder named ace-palmos. I drug that folder and file to my folder named "ROM". The computer asked me if I wanted to overwrite the existing file, I said yes to all.

    So then what I had was a folder named palm which I created and within that folder was a folder named launcher which I created and within that folder were 2 files:
    CDMAFirmwareUpdateerApp_device
    ROMUpdater App


    I my folder named ROM which I created I had 3 zip folders named:
    ace-palmos
    ace-htc-tpl
    ace-palmos-tpl
    Along with 13 files named:
    ace-ipl-cvt2.md5
    ace-ipl-dvt.md5
    ace-palmos.zip.md5
    ace-palmos-tpl.zip.md5
    ace-ipl-cvt2
    ace-spl.md5
    ace-ipl-cvt1.md5
    ace-htc-tpl.zip.md5
    ace-ipl-evt.md5
    ace-spl
    ace-ipl-evt
    ace-ipl-dvt
    ace-ipl-cvt1
    (20) I then took my SD card out of my Treo and put it in my card reader on my computer. I went to the MMC/SD drive and opened the drive to view the contents of my card. I right clicked the palm folder on my SD card, left clicked rename and typed NOT in front of the word palm to rename the folder. I then drag and dropped the ROM folder and the palm folder I created which were on my desktop and dropped them on the SD card. So on my card all in one window a long with the folders that were all ready there I had a palm folder a ROM folder a NOTpalm folder. This is called being on the root, it is the beginning level. However the launcher folder is not on the root because it is inside the palm folder. And the 3 zip folders are also not on the root because they are folders within the ROM folder.
    AGAIN IF THERE IS A FOLDER IN THE ACE-PALMOS ZIP FILE THE TREO WILL DIE (but there isnt, because I didnt put one in there).
    (21) I then hard reset the Treo and then placed the SD card back in the treo. It went to the card view and I tapped CDMAFirmwareUpdaterApp, it opened and I tapped the big button in the center, update or something to that effect. I took about 5 minutes to run then the treo turned off.
    (22) I turned the treo back on and went the card view and tapped the ROMUpdaterApp, it opened and I typed rev cvt2 and then I hit enter on the treo keyboard, it said it would run prl cvt2 Then I typed ace and then hit enter on the keyboard then it went through a check-list to make sure all the needed files were there and not corrupt. If a file is corrupt or missing it wont find the file and it will cancel (pause) the update. Then you take the card out, delete every thing and start all over or try to find the file or folder the treo said was missing. If the checklist finds everything it needs it runs it in like 10 seconds and then tells you to hard reset the treo.
    (23) I then took out the card and deleted the palm and ROM folder off the card and renamed my NOTpalm folder back to palm.
    (24) I then right clicked my blue desktop and went new, folder and created a new folder named backup.
    (25) I then went to the start menu on my desktop computer and right clicked and went to explore, program files, palmone, my name, backup and I selected all the files in the backup folder and drag and dropped them into the new backup folder on the desktop because I didn’t want to sync all the files that were now in ROM back to RAM and now a lot of files were missing (the junk palm files I removed with the shadowmite tool) so I didn’t want to sync any databases, preferences or settings that went with them.
    (26) So I double clicked one by one the files that I did want to sync back to my treo. They included my 3rd party applications and their databases and settings that were not now in ROM. Databases and settings to the applications that were now in ROM. Databases, settings and preferences to original ROM applications that I didn’t remove.
    I didn’t sync the saved preference file, any java files or other files that are recreated by the system such as address files and MMIDCashe files.
    I then re-entered all my registration codes and reconfigured all my applications.
    Treoing & Loving it
  5. #6  
    Just call me Berd.
  6. #7  
    use the new ROMTool for loading and backing up ROMs. It has really made the process much faster and easier
    iPhone in the Washington DC area.
  7. #8  
    yes I am referring to the same thread, but the dude is lazy it I am trying to save his life by saving him a mouse click
    Treoing & Loving it
  8. #9  
    Quote Originally Posted by berdinkerdickle

    if i back-up another phone's rom and upload it to my phone using ROMTool, then is this procedure ok?
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  9. #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by cdboy
    if i back-up another phone's rom and upload it to my phone using ROMTool, then is this procedure ok?
    Providing it's the correct firmware for you phone.
  10. #11  
    For your 1.13 APR hope? Yes, you will have to change some tokens to make is show 1.13 but you could go back.
    PalmIII > PalmIIIx > PalmIIIxe > TRGPro > Handera 330 > Zire71 > Treo600 > Treo650 > Treo680 > Treo750 > Centro > TreoPro > iPhone 32GB 3GS

  11. #12  
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgangut
    For your 1.13 APR hope? Yes, you will have to change some tokens to make is show 1.13 but you could go back.
    What are tokens? I've seen it mentioned several times, but I'm not sure what they are. Is it something for GSM only? That's the only time I've seen it used.
  12. #13  
    Tokens are a value stored on the Treo, both GSM/CDMA. there are token values for the 1.13 / 1.20 software version or ENA / CNG. The Palm updaters and info etc. check and display them.
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  13. #14  
    Quote Originally Posted by gt5l
    yes I am referring to the same thread, but the dude is lazy it I am trying to save his life by saving him a mouse click
    WOW! And I thought I was the merciless one around here!
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  14. #15  
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgangut
    For your 1.13 APR hope? Yes, you will have to change some tokens to make is show 1.13 but you could go back.
    i back up a 1.13-APR phone using ROMTool and use the SD Update method to update my 1.13-ROW to 1.13-APR (assuming the 1.13-APR is the Full Rom back up) is this going to work? i know i can go back to 1.13-ROW because i have the Full 1.13-ROW rom. did i miss anything??

    i hope you can help me on this one.

    thank you

    why APR? i want to write chinese characters.

    thanks again
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  15. #16  
    In what form do you have the 1.13APR? Folder? Acepalmos?

    Second thing is rom size versus partition size.
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  16. #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgangut
    In what form do you have the 1.13APR? Folder? Acepalmos?

    Second thing is rom size versus partition size.
    i got a 1.13-APR from a Treo650 but when i tried uploading it, ROMTool keeps on saying rom too big.

    please help.

    here is the link to the file that i uploaded: http://rapidshare.de/files/16147489/ace-palmos.rar.html

    hope you can help me.
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  17. #18  
    Taking a look.
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  18. #19  
    You can use the romtool to reduce the size of the ROM. Just read the instructions and delete files/programs you do not want oe need.
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  19. #20  
    The ROM size is 9.8MB. You need to increase the Partition size. I'll get a download together to help you.
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