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  1.    #1  
    HIYA!

    I'm a bit confused(normal) just received my Tréo 600 and have a quick question about an icon:

    Beside the reception icon, there are two arrows pointing in the opposite direction; What do they mean?
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    If they're green, it means you've got an active data connection.
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    Yes, they're green, does this mean it costing me $$$?
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    Pretty please with a cherry on top!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    Yes, they're green, does this mean it costing me $$$?
    Well, it depends on which data package you purchased.
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    Those green arrows seem to stay on even when I use the phone for calling...

    As to the package, I'm paying 5 euros a month flat-fee and .5 cents per 10Kb(whatever that means) As you can see, I'm a real n00b when it comes to this kind of thing!!

    Any ideas?
    Last edited by LECTER; 02/28/2006 at 09:35 AM.
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    26 views and two answers, WOW...

    Anyway it seems that the GPRS fuction was still active, is there anyway to auto-disconnect? i.e. once I've finished reading my e-mail, the GPRS disconnects automatically?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    Anyway it seems that the GPRS fuction was still active, is there anyway to auto-disconnect? i.e. once I've finished reading my e-mail, the GPRS disconnects automatically?!
    Any decent email client should have a preference setting to disconnect after fetching; Snappermail does...I don't remember if Versamail does, but it should.

    reset netlib is a nice little app to have on hand: when launched, it drops any active network connection. I set up a Favorites key for it, and with the help of Butler, can disconnect from the network from within any app on the Treo.
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    Thank you very much!

    Does this mean that the Tréo as is (no 3rd party soft), does not disconnect on its own?! Meaning I have to manually disconnect by going through I don't know how many applications? That wouldn't make sense, would it?
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    Lecter,

    At the risk of sounding rude, you really need to exercise some etiquette. You'll get far better results if you do.

    1) Be more specific. You're subject line doesn't give a hint of what you're asking about, and you asked about being charged for data use without giving any information about your cell plan.

    2) Try searching and/or reading your user manual before posting. You asked a very basic question that's been covered ad nauseam.

    3) Stop complaining that answers aren't coming quickly enough. You let 12 whole minutes elapse after post #3 before complaining. And 2 replies out of 26 views is pretty typical if you look at the stats for other threads. Moreover, your lack of specificity, failure to make any attempt to find the answer for yourself, and "please me now" attitude are almost guaranteed to discourage people from responding to you. Bill Gamble was kind enough to try and help without criticizing your lack of etiquette; most folks here aren't willing to bite their tongues quite that hard (as you can tell from this post). Count yourself lucky that most viewers have decided to not say anything at all since they don't have anything nice to say.

    Now that that's out of the way, I'll add a bit to Bill's helpful posts. As a caveat, I have a Treo 650 rather than a 600, so the best I can do is answer based on the 650. Most of this should be the same or very similar, though.
    - Five cents (I assume you mean $0.05, not $0.005) per 10 KB means you pay 5 cents for every 10 kilobytes of data that's sent to or received from your phone. That's quite expensive. There are all kinds of apps you can get that monitor your data usage; I don't use any since I have unlimited data, so I suggest doing a search. There should also be a lifetime data total hidden somewhere in your phone app, or at least there is on the Treo 650. On Sprint, you can dial ##786# to see it, but that varies by carrier.
    - Versamail does have an auto-disconnect option. Go to Menu > Options > Preferences > Connections and check the box labeled "auto-disconnect."
    - You can also manually disconnect at any time by going into the Prefs app, going into Network, and tapping the "Disconnect" button in the lower right.
    - Theoretically, the arrows are green when data is being transmitted and grey when the connection is up but no data is being transmitted. However, it doesn't refresh very reliably, so they're often green when no data is being transmitted. My point is that the color isn't very reliable, so green arrows don't necessarily mean $$.
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    Actually it was more like 2hours and 46 min (sorry)!
    Yes I read the UM several times!
    I'm not with an American carrier!
    And if you didn't register, I said I was a n00b, just like you were once too...
    I'm not flameing you, but there is a big difference between the 650 and the 600(if you didn't know)!

    Thanx for your help anyway...
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    First and foremost, there's a phenomenon called constructive criticism; you'd be better off if you learned to make use of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    Actually it was more like 2hours and 46 min (sorry)!
    Time of post #3 = 8:32 AM, time of post #4 = 8:44 AM. That's 12 minutes regardless of which side of the pond you're on. Maybe it wasn't complaining per se, but it was very impatient.

    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    Yes I read the UM several times! I'm not with an American carrier!
    You read the manual? Are you sure? I don't own a 600 and don't live in Europe, but it took me all of 5 minutes to find the following quote on pg. 35 of the Treo 600 GSM user guide:
    "[icon of cell tower, signal bars, and little arrows pointing in opposite directions] - Appears when you are connected to a GPRS network and a data session is active..."

    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    And if you didn't register, I said I was a n00b, just like you were once too...
    I'm fully aware of that; however, I also realize that newbies are perfectly capable of using the "search" function on this board and/or reading the manual. I managed to do both and find answers for many of my own questions before I ever registered on TC.

    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    I'm not flameing you, but there is a big difference between the 650 and the 600(if you didn't know)!
    There's more than one big difference, actually. But since you were in such a hurry to be handed answers, I gave you the best answers I had. If they're not device-specific enough for you, a quick search on TC (which I'm told works just fine on a 600) turns up this thread, and following that up with a quick Google turns up this utility. But I suppose it's easier to just keep replying to your own post until someone comes along and spoon-feeds you.

    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    Thanx for your help anyway...
    You're welcome. Have a good day.
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    So what's for dessert...?lsr
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    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    So what's for dessert...?lsr
    Great...name calling. What are you, 12 or something?

    Why are ringtones always such a big issue? Don't people realize that they're obnoxious!? And why the Nintendo 'Wii'? What th-!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShannonElements
    Great...name calling. What are you, 12 or something?

    13 1/2 actually, want a date...?

    I just thought that his arrogance was only surpassed by his long-windedness...probably another one with no life except his "E-life"...
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    Hey, my first use of the ignore user function since joining TC over a year ago. Thank you, vBulletin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LECTER
    13 1/2 actually, want a date...?

    I just thought that his arrogance was only surpassed by his long-windedness...probably another one with no life except his "E-life"...
    If you expect much help you need to learn to be patient when you ask a question, be a little more specific, and not jump right to deragotory comments toward individuals who are trying to not only answer your question but to point in the direction to find future answers on your own, or even help someone else out down the road.
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    Thanks for the backup, Shannon and cardio.
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    Palm (aka Plantronics) Ultralight Wireless headset
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvcobra
    Hey, my first use of the ignore user function since joining TC over a year ago. Thank you, vBulletin!
    Yeah, if ignorance is bliss, you must be in heaven...
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    That's odd... I still get e-mail notifications of a new post from an ignored user. Oh well. Time to go turn off notification for this thread.
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    ... Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out.
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    Clie T615C + Nokia 6360 (SunCom) --> Treo 650 (Sprint) --> Treo 755p (Sprint) + BlackBerry 7130e (VZW)
    Palm (aka Plantronics) Ultralight Wireless headset
    Helix Holster

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