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  1.    #1  
    Hey everyone, I was hoping someone can help me point me in the right direction. I am happy to read the threads discussing how to upgrade the firmware and software but i don't know where to start.

    I just unlocked my Treo 650. It was Cingular. Can someone tell me which firmware upgrades I need to do first and what the latest one is? Once I have that I will search the forum for the instructions.

    Currently I am at:

    Firmware: 1.04
    Sofware: 1.02 - CNB
    Hardware: A

    If I remember right I have to upgrade to a certain firmware first, then upgrade to another one right? Help please!!

    Thanks!!!!
  2. #2  
    You can upgrade directly to the latest 1.17 CNB sw/fw, no detours required:
    http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/treo650updater/cingular.html
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  3.    #3  
    Great! Thank you VERY much!
  4.    #4  
    Oh wait! Is this for an unlocked Treo 650 though? It looks like its for a Cingular locked phone? I just unlocked it and I want to use it with T-Mobile now. I just tested it with my SIM card and it connects...just want to make sure I have the latest software. thx
  5. #5  
    The sw/fw has no effect on whether or not your phone is unlocked. You have CNB sw/fw and can therefore upgrade directly to the latest CNB sw/fw. In order to upgrade to the latest ROW sw/fw, you'd have to first move to one of the older 'unofficial' ROW versions (1.21 or 1.23).
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  6.    #6  
    Ok, so let me know if I have this right. I should first upgrade to 1.17 CNB. Then I should upgrade to the latest ROW sw/fw? It is recommended I upgrade the ROW as well right?
  7. #7  
    Again, sticking with CNB won't affect the unlocked status of your phone; but there's no need to move to 1.17 CNB if you really want to change to ROW sw/fw.

    If you're really sure that you want to move from CNB to ROW, you'll have to apply one of the older "unofficial" ROW updates (1.21 or 1.23) before you can apply the latest official ROW update.
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    What is the advantage of going to ROW instead of sticking with CNB then?

    I would like it if I didn't have the Cingular splash screen and Cingular apps on my Treo. You seem to know what your talking about...what would you recommend? Since I'm going to T-Mobile I would like the phone to "seem" more like a T-Mobile phone than Cingular.
  9. #9  
    If that's what you want, then you'll have to change to ROW, which means applying either 1.21 or 1.23 before moving to the latest ROW update from Palm.
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  10.    #10  
    Ok, then I'll upgrade to 1.21 or 1.23 first. Do you happen to have the link to the latest ROW update from Palm? I always have a hard time finding things on their site. I'm going to do a search for the 1.21 and start that process now. Thanks for all your help Bill.
  11. #11  
    Here's the latest, official, ROW update (there'll be another one out in a couple of weeks):
    http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/treo650updater/unlockedgsm.html
    V > Vx > m505 > m515 > T/T > T3 > TC > 650 > 680
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  12.    #12  
    Cool. Just upgraded to 1.23...now i'm going to attempt the latest ROW update. thx!
  13.    #13  
    Bill, just wanted to make sure I did everything right.

    I now show FW: 1.28 & SW: 1.13 ROW

    And I should be expecting to upgrade again in a few weeks?
  14. #14  
    Quote Originally Posted by jogerson
    Bill, just wanted to make sure I did everything right.

    I now show FW: 1.28 & SW: 1.13 ROW

    And I should be expecting to upgrade again in a few weeks?
    That's perfect. Yes, from what we've heard, testing for the next official ROW update (1.71/1.20) has finished; it should be available soon - hopefully by the end of the month.
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  15.    #15  
    Cool, thanks for all the help.
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    I'm in the same situation... I've got a cingular branded unlocked t650 that I'd prefer to strip down to the bare essentials...

    I already applied the latest CNG patch (1.17) but would prefer the ROW, but where can I find the aforementioned 'unofficial' earlier ROW versions?

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    ACK! Nevermind... FOUND IT... Man, I wish this rom customization was as easy as it was w/ the older Palms (jackflash and such).
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  17. #17  
    Quote Originally Posted by SeTeS
    I'm in the same situation... I've got a cingular branded unlocked t650 that I'd prefer to strip down to the bare essentials...

    I already applied the latest CNG patch (1.17) but would prefer the ROW, but where can I find the aforementioned 'unofficial' earlier ROW versions?
    The links have changed over time, but they're findable. Search the forums for 1.21 or 1.23.
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  18. #18  
    I have to do this too. I just recently bought my cingular branded unlocked phone. Is this gonna be void the warranty? Is there a way to revert back if something goes wrong? May be I will do more research when I get back home. Now my treo reset like crazy. 4 5 times a day. I know some softwares I installed tricking it but can't seem to find it yet. Hope this update thing can help me a bit.
    Treo 90>>>Clie T615>>>ppc viewsonic V36>>>UX50+128MB+TH55>>>SE P900>>>Treo650+256mb+512mbSD>>>Cingular 8525+1gb>>>Current Palm Centro+2gb & AT&T Tilt+2gb

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