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    I'm thinking about installing Takephone to take advantage of the business look up. I was curious if Voice Signal's Voice Dail would still work? The documentation with Voice Dail states it only works with the built in Contacts App. Does Takephone modify Contacts in a way that Voice Dail would not work? Thanks
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    TAKEphONE is integrated with the native contacts app. Its more or less a conduit to enter info into, search and retrieve info from contacts. For example, if I pull up a contact from the TAKEphONE "Find" screen and make an edit to that contact I am actually editing the Treo's contacts database.

    Of course, you should download the trail and test it out. But I'm pretty sure it will work seemlessly with your Voice Dial app.
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    Thanks for the info.
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    Both work independently of one another.
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    Hi,

    TAKEphONE will not interfere with Voice Dialer.

    I only the developers of Voice Dialer would enable selecting the method for dialing - via the built-in dialer app (as is now), and TAKEphONE.

    This way users can gain use of TAKEphONE's ability to handle pauses within CONTACT records, and the call-cards mechanism.

    This should not be hard, as TAKEphONE supports the SAME "helper" interface as the built-in dialer. It's just a matter of adding the setup for it.
    Shimon Shnitzer
    Maker of TAKEphONE, 2day, 4cast, 2dial & CallCards -
    "Take telephony into your Palm"
    Web: http://www.shsh.com/products
    Blog: http://www.shsh.com/wordpress
    eMail: contact@shsh.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKEphONE
    I only the developers of Voice Dialer would enable selecting the method for dialing - via the built-in dialer app (as is now), and TAKEphONE.

    This way users can gain use of TAKEphONE's ability to handle pauses within CONTACT records, and the call-cards mechanism.

    This should not be hard, as TAKEphONE supports the SAME "helper" interface as the built-in dialer. It's just a matter of adding the setup for it.
    I contacted the Voice Signal folks a few weeks ago to ask them for this. This would be tremendously helpful to me. Their web site has a support email address which is (not surprisingly) support@voicesignal.com and they very promptly responded with a non-form letter response. Unfortunately, they didn't promise me that they would drop everything to put this in and rush me a special release. In fact they didn't even agree to do it. But they did seem to listen. I bet that if they got more polite prompting from more interested parties, they might consider it. Maybe Shimon or someone else could provide a detailed technical description of what has to happen in the code, just to make it easier.

    Voice Dial does work fine for me, except for my numbers that have hard pauses in them. Voice Dial passes those to the built-in dialer which strips out the "x" and then tries to dial the whole number with the extension which is NOT a valid phone number. Sigh...

    Dave
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    Dave,

    In the meantime, you might try Shimon's 2Dial app. While it won't automatically dial the extension you can create a shortcut "login" key that has all of the extension, password and pause info built right in. That won't get you to full voice dial functionality but it will reduce the keystrokes down to a single key.
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    I just sent a message to VoiceSignal asking them to support Takephone. I use the international format for my phone numbers (<+country code><(area code)><phone number>) and the internal dialer can't translate this when roaming (internationally) and depending on carrier.
    Would have to change 2000 contacts + to be able to use it and lose all other Takephone capabilities.
    Waiting for their reply...
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    Here is Voice Signal's answer. Please note the included phone number and email if others or even Shimon would like to contact them. It was pretty fast though.

    "Thank you for your interest in our solutions and for the suggestions.
    I am forwarding your email to our specialists for investigation.

    Best regards,


    Jean Kadima
    Technical Support Engineer
    Voice Signal Technologies
    Phone: (888)970-1070
    e-mail: support@voicesignal.com
    www.voicesignal.com"
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    What would it take to either hack the Voice Dial binary or hack the system (prefer the former) so that when Voice Dial thinks it is calling the built-in dialer, it calls the TAKEphONE dialer instead??
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrel
    What would it take to either hack the Voice Dial binary or hack the system (prefer the former) so that when Voice Dial thinks it is calling the built-in dialer, it calls the TAKEphONE dialer instead??
    Hi,

    I hope you'll understand I cant do/answer this.
    Shimon Shnitzer
    Maker of TAKEphONE, 2day, 4cast, 2dial & CallCards -
    "Take telephony into your Palm"
    Web: http://www.shsh.com/products
    Blog: http://www.shsh.com/wordpress
    eMail: contact@shsh.com
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    Can you try contacting them saying that you have users asking for the compatibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrazilNuts
    Can you try contacting them saying that you have users asking for the compatibility?
    I have. As did several users.

    I think if many users contact them, maybe they will oblige.
    Shimon Shnitzer
    Maker of TAKEphONE, 2day, 4cast, 2dial & CallCards -
    "Take telephony into your Palm"
    Web: http://www.shsh.com/products
    Blog: http://www.shsh.com/wordpress
    eMail: contact@shsh.com
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    TreoCentral's CES report says that VoiceSignal is working on a new release for the palm. I would say that now would be a good time for any interested parties to contact them and request this feature. Their releases seem few and far between so this feature must make this release or we may not see it until the Treo 850 arrives.

    Contact info is in a post above...
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    Hi,

    Thanks !

    Sent a detailed email to the email address above.

    Anyone else sending emails - I m sure it will help get their attention to this...
    Shimon Shnitzer
    Maker of TAKEphONE, 2day, 4cast, 2dial & CallCards -
    "Take telephony into your Palm"
    Web: http://www.shsh.com/products
    Blog: http://www.shsh.com/wordpress
    eMail: contact@shsh.com
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    I tried to contact them on a follow up and had no answer.

    Maybe there is another voice dialing app that works and the developer is more responsive. Did anybody try VoiceDialIT? If it works with Takephone and is stable I will dump VoiceDial for it.
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    Bummer... The new Voice Dial app is out (I found it on PalmGear) and it does not seem to support alternate dialers. ;-(

    While I completely understand Shimon's position about not participating in any such "hack", I still think the necessary solution is a hack to either tell the system or Voice Dial that TAKEphONE is the default dialer. Any ideas from the gallery??
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrel
    Bummer... The new Voice Dial app is out (I found it on PalmGear) and it does not seem to support alternate dialers. ;-(

    While I completely understand Shimon's position about not participating in any such "hack", I still think the necessary solution is a hack to either tell the system or Voice Dial that TAKEphONE is the default dialer. Any ideas from the gallery??
    Sorry - tried anything I could.
    No luck...
    Shimon Shnitzer
    Maker of TAKEphONE, 2day, 4cast, 2dial & CallCards -
    "Take telephony into your Palm"
    Web: http://www.shsh.com/products
    Blog: http://www.shsh.com/wordpress
    eMail: contact@shsh.com

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