03/03/2011, 01:37 PM
The "best" is a matter of opinion. Where's the netflix app for WebOS? Slingbox? Do companies from resturants, car manufacturers, and other type of businesses look to WebOS first or even second when they make things? Nope. Even many age old common free iOS programs like LoseIt, which is my absolute favorite weight tracking app, haven't made it over. Then you get into niche thing...I can find a number of p90x helper apps on iOS, they're not there on the Pre.
Originally Posted by estebancam
I'm glad that app catalog works for you and the "important" apps you want or need are there. But our PHONE app catalog isn't even 1/10th the size of hteir TABLET catalog that's a year old, let alone their full phone catalog. Its impossible for me to honestly believe every important app is available for WebOS, let alone the ability to find helpful, useful, niche apps.
Honestly, I acn't speak to the PS3 android. I can say setting up a remote media server at your house is definitely doable...and not exactly "easy". Not to a non-relatively savy computer person. Plugging in an Apple TV, clicking on a video, and hitting airplay is simple and just about anyone can do it.
And I have to disagree with on you ecosystem. I think Apple's ecosystem is absolutely terrible. It works well, but it is sooooo limited. I mean, yeah I can airplay, but I can also do that with my PS3 and Android phone. Or even a remote media server at my home.
What you're saying isn't "simple stuff", what Apple is doing is. Is it properetary? Yeah it is. When you have the market they have with their mobile devices they can afford to do that. And BY doing it they're able to make it simple enough that people with little to no real computing knowledge can simply and easily do it. That's where its strength lies.
I italicized the word that is incorrect and bolded the words that matter.
a better ecosystem for webOS. An actual computing system that works flawlessly (i think, and hope)
between devices. Even to the point of putting webOS on printers, tablets, toasters, phones, and music players.
HP has next to NO ecosystem right now. The closest thing to an "eco"-system that it actually has is a Phone and a Tablet that work with each other that are both not announced, and the touchstone v2. charger that's not yet released.
It has the POTENTIAL for a great ecosystem. Potential means jack at the moment though. We haven't even gotten a WebOS tablet to market yet, let alone even getting a firm honest announcemnet of WebOS on anything else. There's a lot of speculation, a lot of talk, but absolutely nothing concrete yet. Vaporware doesn't create an ecosystem. HP "has" no ecosystem...it has the potential for a great one. Whether or not it will realize that ecosystem is the question. And if they continue to lag behind the competition time and time and time again that answer is going to be no.
Ecosystem speaks about the connected devices and accessories that all relate to each other. The ability for hardware to interact, to work off each other, and thrive. The ability for their software to function and imrpove the experience amongst multiple devices. The ability where having one thing allows easier or more use from another to another.
Synergy is akin to an ecosystem, but at the same time its rather limited in its scope right now to PIM things primarily.
I get your point, don't take me as selling short WebOS. I absolutely love the OS. I've been defending the Pre3 since it was announced. The problem is, I don't have a short memory.
I remember the long wait for the Pre. I remember watching it become an average specced phone before and shortly after it came out. I remember sitting there for 6 months annoyed and telling myself I'd push through it as the App catalog was absolute crap. I remember grunting my way through the "too many cards" errors in hopes of a new device, only to see ANOTHER long wait for that announced...and on a different carrier. I remember even after all their various pushes the app store growing extremely slowly. I remember my Pre's specs becoming worse and worse and its OS domination being shrunk as iOS and Android both improved.
And now I'm watching it all over again. The long time to release, putting out good specs for now but average ones for that time. Launching with few likely few actual applications again save for a tacted on way to run phone ones stretched onto the big screen. And even if it had its whole market, again....less than 1/10th the competitors. And like the last time, they're probably still going to charge the current high price premium for the components despite the fact that by the time it launches such components aren't going to be worth it in such a device.
And the damning thing for them is all the other OS's are closing the gap. Honeycomb improved a lot of problems with Android with regards to Tablets. iOS5 is likely to be announced before the launch of the TouchPad or right near it, potentially improving iOS even more. And even with that, iOS has improved a fair bit compared to when WebOS first came out while WebOS hasn't really made a large amount of strides to improve itself.
The gap is shrinking in my mind, and for me...and I don't doubt other people...the notion of waiting 4 or 5 months AGAIN for a Product that's going to take 3 or 4 months AGAIN to have a decent semblance of software support that isn't appealing. And having gone through it once, I'm much less apt to volunteer to be Palm's Beta Tester once again and am far more likely...due to primarily 1) their long away release date 2) their lack of a price 3) their lack of carrier information....to simply buy the iPad2, use an actual fully workable not in Beta OS and device, and learn the lessons of the past by possibly looking at the TouchPad Plus or whatever they call the incarnation they put out next year that tries to fix all their mistakes this time around.
By then at least we may see if "ecosystem" even evolves, let alone Apps.
I placed my money down on a gamble with Palm "getting it right" two years ago and in a lot of ways they crapped out. I'd have been willing to do it again if they had launched in February or March. I'm not sure if I am with some unknown release date 3 to 5 months away.