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Old 09/07/2012, 12:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My local Frys had the lumia 9 dummy phone ... so it's not like holding the real thing, ATT had a dummy last time I asked too.

Guy at Frys tried to hard sell me saying the price was going up once the firmware update hit.... I told him the firmware update had landed like 2 days prior, the other sales guy was like yeah it's already out, then bad sales guy was like oh yeah I know, but they are just keeping the price at 99 for the weekend. Then I went off on him as my wife was dragging me away.
lol! Those phone salesmen will make up anything they can to get you to buy. You'd be a fool to buy any WP device right now anyway since none of them are getting upgraded to WP8.
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Old 09/07/2012, 12:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yeah, this was right after launch.... I started asking the dude if he knew who John Kneeland was, he said yeah, so I said really you know John Kneeland, who is he... that's when the wife started saying it was time to go.... LOL

She knows how I am with sales people, I hate being lied to or talked down to like I don't know what I am talking about. My buddy still tells the story of me like 6 years ago going off on a Ford rep at the auto show when he was trying to talk down to me cuz I was trashing the design of the new GT "40" (my buddy is a classic ford guy, and I had just watched an hour long special on the old and new GT).
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Old 09/07/2012, 02:30 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Nokia didn't clone the touchstone -- energizer made it a standard. nokia just used it
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Old 09/07/2012, 03:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Even if they had brought wireless charging to their stylish Nokia phones, it wouldn't make me buy them just to Microsoft crappy OS of windows mobile
That's the key thing for me. It's nice but, that alone won't make me like an OS or phone that i don't particularly like. It's nice just not enough.
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Old 09/07/2012, 09:48 PM   #25 (permalink)
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First impression: That thing is UG-LY. It looks flimsy and not solid at all.
Not that the TS design was perfect, i think the Nokia one is terrible compared to it.

EDIT: ehhhh, doesnt seem so bad on second-look, but still looks a comical
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Old 09/08/2012, 07:55 PM   #26 (permalink)
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While I'm really glad to see Nokia push this technology forward with their phones....Even if they had brought wireless charging to their stylish Nokia phones, it wouldn't make me buy them just to Microsoft crappy OS of windows mobile. Like the tiles effect that it updates information without having to open any application, but the black-ground and color rainbow screen don't like them.
I have windows 8 on laptop and cant quite get used to it. Looks like something for kids
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Old 09/10/2012, 02:48 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Just noticed that Nokia is naming the wireless charger "Touchdown"... not similar at all ... but it does look nice.
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Old 09/10/2012, 12:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Just noticed that Nokia is naming the wireless charger "Touchdown"... not similar at all ... but it does look nice.
LOL I missed that as well....
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Old 09/10/2012, 01:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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They didn't clone it, they went two better - by adopting common standards (qi and NFC) rather than going with cheesy proprietary tech.

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Well, those standards didn't existed when Palm introduced the Touchstones...
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Old 09/10/2012, 05:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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LOL I missed that as well....
Where you saw that
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Old 09/10/2012, 07:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I was just going off what he said, haven't seen it anywhere... my bad
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Old 09/15/2012, 08:34 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well, those standards didn't existed when Palm introduced the Touchstones...
What? They both predated the Touchstone - qi was available in 2008, nfc standard was agreed in 2006.
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Old 09/15/2012, 08:53 PM   #33 (permalink)
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What? They both predated the Touchstone - qi was available in 2008, nfc standard was agreed in 2006.
So if they have been around so long what has been the hold up?
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Old 09/15/2012, 09:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What? They both predated the Touchstone - qi was available in 2008, nfc standard was agreed in 2006.
And SMS standard was created in the 80's.... were you texting back then? I would say my generation was the start of texting and at 18 (in the late 90's) I knew people that weren't texting (as in didn't have it on their cell plan). Just because a standard or concept was set doesn't mean it was even actually consumer available for long after.

I am guessing the Palm inductive charging was a "concept" or "standard" long before it was in production.... but you know that as well as we all do, standards and concepts are way pre production (you can't produce without a standard or concept)...

Just for reference... I know it's wiki, so all info may not be exact, but yeah... the standard was long before real life use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Message_Service
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Old 09/16/2012, 07:38 AM   #35 (permalink)
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What? They both predated the Touchstone - qi was available in 2008, nfc standard was agreed in 2006.
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And SMS standard was created in the 80's.... were you texting back then? I would say my generation was the start of texting and at 18 (in the late 90's) I knew people that weren't texting (as in didn't have it on their cell plan). Just because a standard or concept was set doesn't mean it was even actually consumer available for long after.<br />
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I am guessing the Palm inductive charging was a "concept" or "standard" long before it was in production.... but you know that as well as we all do, standards and concepts are way pre production (you can't produce without a standard or concept)...<br />
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Just for reference... I know it's wiki, so all info may not be exact, but yeah... the standard was long before real life use<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Message_Service
That is a fair point - btw there is no apostrophe in 80s and 90s (I know I know... I am obsessed with the grocer's apostrophe).
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Old 11/02/2012, 05:26 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Hi,

I see that the soon to be released Google Nexus 4 phone uses the Qi wireless charging standard, like some Nokia phones.

Does anyone know how similar this is to the inductive charging used in the Touchstones?

I'm considering moving to the Nexus 4, and it would be nifty if the Touchstone worked with it. (Not that it has anything to do with my buying decision, it's just an interesting question.)
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Old 11/02/2012, 05:51 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Not similar enough for sure. Maybe if you replaced the coil with the TS.
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Old 11/02/2012, 06:26 PM   #38 (permalink)
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actually the touchstone is a qi product if I understand this here correct.
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Old 11/02/2012, 07:52 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Hi,

I see that the soon to be released Google Nexus 4 phone uses the Qi wireless charging standard, like some Nokia phones.

Does anyone know how similar this is to the inductive charging used in the Touchstones?

I'm considering moving to the Nexus 4, and it would be nifty if the Touchstone worked with it. (Not that it has anything to do with my buying decision, it's just an interesting question.)
Not even close. Tried my TP with a Qi charger. Didn't work.
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Old 11/02/2012, 08:13 PM   #40 (permalink)
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actually the touchstone is a qi product if I understand this here correct.
That is just a list of products that use inductive charging. There is another list of certified products, and the Touchstone is not on it. Nothing on the list goes back to 2009, so the Touchstone may pre-date the Qi standard.

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The Wireless Power Consortium published the Qi low power specification in August 2009, 18 months after the first meeting. The first product was certified in September 2009.
Initially wireless charging of mobile phones required a sleeve. The first mobile phones with integrated Qi receivers were announced at CTIA in March 2011 and by NTT-Docomo in May 2011.
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