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    Does anybody have any opinions on the new Palm handhelds? They are the Zire 22 and the Palm T|X.

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    EDIT: I don't think it is the Zire 22. I think it is just called the Z22.
    Last edited by string3599; 10/12/2005 at 03:02 PM.
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    What a POS that Zire 22 is. I know its only $99.00 but it is basically featureless.
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    Oh goodie - it's 2002 again. Nothing new to see here at all.
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    No phone? No interest.
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    The TX looks pretty cool. It reminds me of a beefed up Palm V.
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    If we could get the software for it, the T|X could be a sweet VOIP box.
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    I'm digging the T|X. That's one sexy handheld. Drop a 2gig SD card in there, get some sweet ear bud headphones, and I would be all set!

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    The Zire 22 will be a big seller because it's cheap and gets the job done if you are just getting into handhelds and/or don't want to make a big investment. I have three friends buying the Zire for that exact reason. They were all looking at more expensive models because they wanted the NVFS. I think offering NVFS at $99 is significant.

    The Palm T|X looks good without qualification.
    Last edited by MarkY; 10/19/2005 at 01:10 PM.
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    Z22 is going to be big. I mean color screen, small, simple, 32mb memory, and a simple USB connection. It's almost the Treo 600. I can see alot of ppl buying this handheld. Too bad there's no SD slot.

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    The T/x looks like it may be the best palm unit produced in a long, long time. It's nice to see Wi-fi on the T/x and the full screen. Had I not gotten the Treo, this would have been the one to get.
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    Not too thrilled with the Z22. It does have more memory than the Treo but no expansion slot, no bluetooth, no wi-fi, no recorder, etc. It's more of an electronic organizer than anything else. Reminds me of the old Sharp or Casio electronic organizers. That is if they had the nice color screen....
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    Also, keep in mind that neither of these devices should be compared with the Treo - certainly not the Zire.
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    Z22 = iPod want to be. Com'on Palm, you can do better design than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pda_jedi
    Z22 = iPod want to be. Com'on Palm, you can do better design than that.

    Why no copy it if you can't compete with it? Seems like a good idea to me if it gets all the soccer moms to get a Z22...
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    People bashing the Z22 are looking at it all wrong. Palm isn't putting this thing out for people who flash custom ROMS onto their Treos, or rip/covert DVDs to watch.

    It's an "Intro" device. Like gMunk says, it's to get the soccer moms, aunts and uncles who are curious about those "Palm things." Look how many Zires and Zire 21's they sold. Same price and much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    It's an "Intro" device. Like gMunk says, it's to get the soccer moms, aunts...
    To back that up, look at the Zire22 page on the Palm site. Nothing but women using them and multiple references to keeping track of their families and looking at pictures of their kids. This is not being marketed as a "corporate" or enthusist device, but it seems to be great at what it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    It's an "Intro" device. Like gMunk says, it's to get the soccer moms, aunts and uncles who are curious about those "Palm things."
    And for $10 more, Palm could have included an SD slot so those soccer moms, aunts and uncles could show off the hundreds of pictures they have of their sons, daughters, nieces, nephews. Or short video clips of those same kids. Or use as an MP3 player while they work out on the eliptical at their local gym. Without the SD slot, it's a shot-sighted design from 2002 and reflective of Palm's dogmatic design process.
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    I also wish Palm could push out flashy palm devices every other week for all us fanatics here, but that's just not reality. There are far too many soccor mom's out there than there are ultra palm geeks. That's part of the reason why Palm is still selling pda's and companies like Toshiba, HP, and Sony are not.

    And yes, I'm not happy either about my friend's Zire not having an sd card slot, but does she really know the difference? If she did, she wouldn't have bought it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupe
    And for $10 more, Palm could have included an SD slot so those soccer moms, aunts and uncles could show off the hundreds of pictures they have of their sons, daughters, nieces, nephews. Or short video clips of those same kids. Or use as an MP3 player while they work out on the eliptical at their local gym. Without the SD slot, it's a shot-sighted design from 2002 and reflective of Palm's dogmatic design process.
    You're still missing the point. It is an "Intro" device. Look what it can do. If soccer mom outgrows it, guess what? She buys a TX. Why spend the extra "$10" for an SD slot, when they can potentially make another $300 when you get the itch for more?

    Get it??
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    I guess Palm must think that being "Just under $100" is going to sell alot of these. I supposed there are some people who would never use the SD slot or a headphone jack, but this is simply a scaled back Zire 31 with a little more memory.

    I see Palm is running a promo with a free MP3 kit (headphones, card, & card reader) upon purchase of a Zire 31 & also an incentive with an Audible Subscription. Unfortunately, I beleieve you must purchase this online then send in for the kit.

    Has Palm ever bundled this Zire 31 (or similar) MP3 promo in an actual "package" for display and retail?

    Seems to me, that there would be a huge market of students and working-out soccer moms (as listed above) that this would appeal to like Kupe has said. I'm certainly not a self-proclaimed marketing guru, but if were Palm marketing, I'd be physically bundling the Zire 31 / MP3 thing along with some "homework" and "workout" software and a 30-day trial of Rhapsody or something. Then I'd run ads in student & soccer-mom magazines ("your mp3 player on steroids" or something) and push these things into college bookstores as well.

    Oh well........maybe it's already been tried
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