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  1. wojo's Avatar
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    I am not a technical person and therefore not familiar with advantages and disadvantages of a Treo and Blackberry. I am considering the Treo 600. How is the e-mail feature compared to blackberry (I am verizon user) and internet function. Any other advice would be very helpful.
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    if email is your #1 reason for getting this type of phone, I'd probably go with a blackberry... as treo's email doesn't come close to the smoothness of the bb's email.
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    assuming email is not my only concern and i will be using it for dozens of other things can you help me identify what you think are pros and cons of the treo vs blackberry. for example how user friendly is the treo 600. i currently use a palm so i am familiar w/ the os but don't know as if i care for the small keyboard and navigation tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    assuming email is not my only concern and i will be using it for dozens of other things can you help me identify what you think are pros and cons of the treo vs blackberry. for example how user friendly is the treo 600. i currently use a palm so i am familiar w/ the os but don't know as if i care for the small keyboard and navigation tool.
    The Treo keyboard is easier to use than it looks. I use both, and I'm almost as fast on the Treo. The BB is a much better email appliance, but the Treo is a better phone, IMO. If you're going to be using it for dozens of other things, you need to spell out what those things are. There's not a whole lot of 3rd party software for the BB; no ebook reader, no general purpose list program like ListPro, no Avantgo client, and on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talldog
    The Treo keyboard is easier to use than it looks. I use both, and I'm almost as fast on the Treo. The BB is a much better email appliance, but the Treo is a better phone, IMO. If you're going to be using it for dozens of other things, you need to spell out what those things are. There's not a whole lot of 3rd party software for the BB; no ebook reader, no general purpose list program like ListPro, no Avantgo client, and on and on.
    I just switched from the Treo to the BB 7290.

    I originally thought there was a lack of software for the BB but I've found software to do everything I need to do. The lack of bluetooth on the Treo pushed me over and the lack of build quality on the PalmOne Treos kept me from considering moving up to the 650.

    I've found the web browsing to be superior on the BB and obviously the email is far superior.

    Using the phone without the bluetooth headset is not as comfortable as the Treo and the Treo's phone application is more user friendly.

    Check out www.blackberryclub.com for good info on the Blackberrys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegold
    I just switched from the Treo to the BB 7290.
    I just did the same, mainly because my company is paying for it. I agree with most of your points, but the lack of software WILL be a problem for many people, depending on what kind of software you're looking for. There are no more than about 1,000 apps for the BB (including all the usual crap freeware), vs. 20,000+ apps for PalmOS. For instance, if you want an ebook reader, you're SOL. There are some lame workarounds (like emailing PDFs to yourself and using the BB attachment viewer), but no real app. I'm using MemoPad and Tasks as a replacement for ListPro, and that just sucks. I was able to find a replacement for eWallet (CryptMagic), but it's not as good, and I had almost no other options.

    I do think that the situation will change, since BBs are becoming very popular.
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    I guess the ebook thing doesn't bother me since I wouldn't be reading any books on there.....I'd rather read a real book or listen to one on the ipod.

    I do miss Agendus though.

    Did you try this Task Manager? Task Pad Pro
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    Being able to save documents to a pdf and always have them with me is extremely important, as is being able to receive emails with a pdf attachment. It sounds like you are saying BB would be terrible for that? I would want other apps but I'm not sure exactly what ones. As mentioned before I am not a technical person so I will have to figure out what apps are good as I go. Main reason for me possibly picking treo over BB is my company's client management system is Siebel and I can sync a treo directly to it b/c it supports palm os. However, if i learn the BB is a better machine I can sacrifice the siebel synch and keep all data on outlook as well and synch a BB to outlook, at least i think I can. Any additional thoughts or comments are greatly appreciated, especially given my enormous lack of knowledge in this area. thanks.
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    I really don't know what those other programs are you mentioned. I currently use a Palm M505 and link it directly to company client mgmt system. I use all apps that came with that palm plus quickbooks. I really want to change b/c I am fed up with having a phone and palm. I also would like to have email to stay in constant touch with my office, although this is not the most important thing. Does instant messenger work with treo? I thought I heard that somewhere.
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    What do you mean by build quality? Are your talking only about the key board or are there other things you didn't lilke. Why is internet navigation easier on BB? becasue of the scroll on the side of BB rather then in center of machine?
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    I've had many emails sent to me with pdf files as attachments ,also excel and word files. I have been able to view them and when opened they are automatically sized correctly for the screen.

    My company uses Outlook exchange server and we have set it up to automatically forward emails to my blackberry. It's a work around to not having Blackberry Enterprise Server installed.

    As for build quality, my Treo 600 was an original Handspring model and I never had any problems with it. Several friends have had the PalmOne Treos and have had nothing but problems with them. One friend is on his sixth replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegold
    Did you try this Task Manager? Task Pad Pro
    Yeah, but it's only good for replacing ToDo lists. Most of my lists are other kinds.
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    its to bad that you are on exchange server and did not look at Good technology for email on the Treo 600 or 650. I switched from a bb to go to the Treo and than used Good for email and I have found that its a better experience than the bb.
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    I looked at Good Technology. Was not impressed.

    Plus, the BB device itself is more robust. Feels more solid, not like it's going to fall apart if I drop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegold
    The lack of bluetooth on the Treo pushed me over and the lack of build quality on the PalmOne Treos kept me from considering moving up to the 650.
    PalmOne switched manufacturers when they introduced the 650. It is made by a completely different company than the 600. I believe it is HTC. Among other things they manufacturer a lot of Windows Mobile devices like the 6600. From what I gather they have a good reputation. How the failure rate of the 650 compares to the 600 or the blackberries I don't know.
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    Mike ( or whoever wishes to comment )
    Is the BB 7100 a viable option if I want a **reliable** device that still works after being dropped etc?
    How's the pocketability of the BB? They look rather large, and
    - I do not often wear a suit jacket. The BB or Treo would go everywhere with me
    - On a belt I'd think it would be quite consicous, a bit high on the geeky factor.
    I will use it primarily to access POP mail. Is sw available to make that work as well as a corporate Exchange server?
    - I'll probably carry a PDA is well (sigh) Right now the combo devices don't seem to be fully baked, and don't have the ruggedness of the BB.

    thanks in advance for your comments
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperCrackBerry
    Mike ( or whoever wishes to comment )
    Is the BB 7100 a viable option if I want a **reliable** device that still works after being dropped etc?
    How's the pocketability of the BB? They look rather large, and
    - I do not often wear a suit jacket. The BB or Treo would go everywhere with me
    - On a belt I'd think it would be quite consicous, a bit high on the geeky factor.
    I will use it primarily to access POP mail. Is sw available to make that work as well as a corporate Exchange server?
    - I'll probably carry a PDA is well (sigh) Right now the combo devices don't seem to be fully baked, and don't have the ruggedness of the BB.

    thanks in advance for your comments
    I like the 7100 (although I prefer the european version from vodafone). It was specifically designed to be more "phone-like" I don't know about its ruggedness but if it is made in Canada like all the other devices and at the same facility I would imagine it is pretty sturdy. As a matter of fact, my 7290 took a major spill today....slipped out of my hand, bounced on a conference table, twirled around and bounced to the floor and rolled a few feet. No scratches, no damage, works as it always has!

    I understand your hesitance about the belt holster, I had always felt the same way and would never wear my cell phone or my Treo on my belt! But I really don't mind it now, sometimes, if I'm not wearing a belt, I'll keep the BB in its leather holster in my pants pocket but usually I'll just wear it on my belt. You actually want to keep the BB in a holster because it has a power saving feature built in to the device and to official holsters. There is a magnetic switch in the device and the holster has a magnet in it which shuts down the screen when in the holster. The device also allows you to set preferences for rings, vibrations, etc. for in holster and out of holster.

    The 7100 is more "pocketable" than the traditional form because of its slimmer style.

    POP3 is workable right out of the box....no special software needed, but it is not Push like the regular BB mail but it polls your pop3 server about every 15 minutes. A better option is to set your pop3 mail to forward a copy of your mail to your blackberry email account.

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