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    How about a program like PDA Reach for the 6600? I have grown to really love that ability on my T600...
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    Quote Originally Posted by isayx3
    Does anyone know if you can use this phone as a modem thru bluetooth (and laptop), like the 600 uses PDAnet?
    i'll let you know as soon as I get it in hand. My notebook is bluetooth enabled... I'll also get an SD wifi card for it and test that out, too. I have wifi at home and work so i'll have plenty of opportunity.
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    Thanks Kenn! How soon till you get it?
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    #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by isayx3
    Thanks Kenn! How soon till you get it?
    i should have it in hand tomorrow....
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    Cool!
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    I got a iMate PDA2k (GSM , using Cingular) and got nervous and sent it back within my return time. I then got a PPC-6601 (Sprint) just so I could try it on the CDMA network to see the difference. Here are some brief comments:

    The iMate pros:

    Excellent camera - by far the best that I have ever used on a phone / pda device. Actually took some usable pictures.
    WiFi worked great! Did a good job when I changed networks also.
    Bluetooth worked well both for a headset and a modem for a laptop.
    Sound quality as a phone was really pretty good (all that covered before)

    Cons:

    I had no way of knowing when the phone had an ongoing GPRS connection. I had some one tell me that even if there was a connection that it wasn't using battery or Data on the network but as far as the battery goes I think that is bull.
    The keyboard, in my opinion is going to be a problem. I think the plastic will chip or come off fairly soon. I found myself using my nail instead of my fingertips and I believe this will eventually damage the keybaord.
    Also the keyboard does not have very good tactile feel and I would find myself missing letters or typing letter twice fairly often.
    Whenusing a bluetooth headset there is no way to initiate a call from the headset, like I have with ANY other bluetooth phone I have used. You have to push the button on the phone to initaiate the call. Maybe not such a big deal but for such a sophisticated device it was really disappointing to me. I am told that this is because of the OS and there may not ever be an answer to this one.


    PPC-6601

    Pros:
    Sprint data service is definitly quicker and apparently the GSM model is NOT EDGE capable so it will never be as fast as the 6601.
    As above the phone sound quality itself is quite good (much better than the Treo 600 I have used for several months).
    Of course, all of the pros that go with having a fairly quick processor and more memory with the much better OS as compared to the Palm on the Treo.

    Cons:
    Again as above the Bluetooth headset issue.
    Yet another Bluetooth issue. Although I didn't troubleshoot too in depth, I have tethered many phones for use as a modem for a laptop or PDA. The iMate phone described above worked quite well as a modem; however, I could never get the 6601 to connect via my laptop. When I did an explore of services for the 6601 Dial up networking was listed but it jsut wouldn't connect. As I said I got nervous and called Sprint to switch my service back to the Treo 600 (and pre ordered the 650).
    Lastly,(I posted on pdaphonehome and the moderator wasn't too impressed with my problem but here goes. On my Treo, because of a SMS applic by PDAapps I was able to recieve an email addressed to my phone (myphonenumber@messaging.sprintpcs.com ) from my office. On the Treo I could respond and send right throught he SMS program and the whole process took less than 20 sec. However, on the 6601 the message from my office has a 4 digit number as the "From" address for the message and if I click on reply the message is sent almost immediately (again about 20 sec) but he message apparenlty goes no where. So the only way I can respond is to change to the email account of the Windows Mobile Outlook program and compose an email. Then upon connecting the email program goes throught he entire sync process to attempt to download messages and then it send the message (the program has no option to send alone, you have to send and recieve). This process always takes between 1 - 2 minutes. If I use 2 min as an example and I get 15 messages in the day , then the process takes 30 minutes per day as compared to the 3 or 4 minutes on the Treo! (I hope that makes sense).
    Lack of WiFi is DEFINITELTY a con. Who wants to carry an extra card around , that is if an SD WiFi card works well.
    No camera.
    Not sure just how much will have to be done to this device to really make it EV-DO capable. (or if Sprint will do it for free).



    For me the cons outweigh the pros with the Windows Mobile devices -- BUT I sure wish I had a Treo 650 with a Windows Mobile OS and WiFi!!!

    Feel free to attack or ask me questions
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    so you are assuming or you are *sure* that a bluetooth headset will be able to initiate a voice call on the treo 650? Also, the sms issue. with my 600 when i get an sms, i simply click "respond" and send a message back. it's quick and painless. I haven't tried sms on my 6601 yet but you are saying it doesn't respond simply by clicking respond and typing/sending a message? Those two plus poor battery life are huge. I love the screen, but limitations like this from such a high tech device are discouraging.
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    there must be something wrong with your configuration. I just sent myself an SMS from my treo 600 to my 6601. I got an immediate pop-up... I pressed "reply" and i got an editor (neat one at that) and typed in a bit o' text and pressed the send button. Within a second I got a message on my treo 600. piece of cake....
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    #49  
    Ken can you offer an opinion on the thumb board. This is an area of major interest and concern, How is the build of the thumb board? Feel, Response, Do you find you even use it that much.
    Also comment on IE, fast easy, or slow and cumbersome
  10. #50  
    Quote Originally Posted by yitzchakis1
    How about a program like PDA Reach for the 6600? I have grown to really love that ability on my T600...
    controling your handheld from desktop
    http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=10874

    or conversely, controling your desktop with PPC. (tho there are several other VPN type apps, including one freebie one)
    http://www.pdatopsoft.com/PocketPC/R...l-for-Pocketpc
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.711
    Ken can you offer an opinion on the thumb board. This is an area of major interest and concern, How is the build of the thumb board? Feel, Response, Do you find you even use it that much.
    Also comment on IE, fast easy, or slow and cumbersome
    i like the keyboard better than the treo one because the 6601 is larger. The keys themselves, if they were raised just a bit, would be awesome. As they are, they are 'good'. The treo is just too small to type on regardless of how good the keys are.

    One thing I'm beginning to notice is the quirkiness of the O.S. and the limited flexibility of the included programs. For instance, pocket outlook allows you to set email intervals -- say checking every 10 minutes or so. that's good... but in snapper it would let you pick a time and day to stop and start -- i.e. don't keep checking mail after 9pm or before 7 am and don't check on weekends. Sound configurations are weak, too. For an incoming mail you can choose a sound OR choose vibrate, but not both. On my treo I have vibrate on always so that if I can't hear the phone, I can feel it. Pocket Explorer shouldn't crash on pages it doesn't understand... it's big brother owns the market and they should know by now what to expect. Pocket outlook cannot be configured to sync with your desktop computer which is insane. Yes, you can download email from pc... you can delete it and such and sync that part, but if you set up a pop3 to hit the same server, that account stands as a separate inbox, sent items, etc., and for the life of me, I can't figure out how to sync those.

    I love the phone... It's a technical marvel.... but the O.S. is still far behind the palm in general for one handed operation and tight integration with the phone. I'm really seriously leaning toward keeping this phone even though there are numerous irritants in it.

    The bottom line is that microsoft has again proven what it is capable of -- that is copying what the competition is doing and, by brute marketing force, push it out to the masses. What they have proven they cannot do, as is typical of them, is truly innovate. There is NOTHING in this phone from an operating system and programs view that I would call innovative.

    I'll say it again: For those that NEED a full-blown PDA with a phone in it, this is your phone. Period. There is no substitute for a full sized PDA screen and seamless integration with Outlook without a "conduit".

    For those that NEED a solid phone with exceptional one-handed use and tight integration of contacts and such, the treo 650 is going to be your winner.
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    #52  
    I am deciding what to ask Santa for Christmas and a Pocket PC device leads the list. The new HP iPAQ hx4705 looks like a winner. I am keeping the 600 and will most likely upgrade to the 650.

    My question is this - can I beam files back and forth between a PPC and Treo 600? Have any PDA2K owners managed to do this?
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    Got my PPC-6601 yesterday....I love it and plan to write more about it soon as I have time...I do have one question....how do I make it go in "landscape" mode..more specifically while in IE Explorer.

    Also can Java Web Viewer be used on this phone? My data speeds have been very slow by compared to the T600

    Thanks in advance.

    Isaac
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    #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by yitzchakis1
    how do I make it go in "landscape" mode..more specifically while in IE Explorer.
    There's no functionality in IE itself that does this.
    There are two way of achieving this:

    1) Tap Start > Settings. Select the System tab. From within the System menu, tap Screen.
    Once you're in the Screen Settings menu, you can select Portrait Mode (default) or right or left handed Landscape mode. Tap the mode of your choice, tap OK, and the screen will make the switch.

    2) Map one of your buttons for this purpose.
    Obviously this is the less cumbersome way of doing it.


    And I hope we see that "review" of yours soon
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    can anyone post a picture of a t300 on top of the ppc so we could get a size ref. and how do the keys on the 300 compare to tje PPC. I am one who always liked the T300 the t300 thumb board
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    I started using Sproqit on my treo a few weeks ago- it is fantastic. Real time e-mail, calendar etc. Can try it out for free- sproqit.com.

    Is anyone else using it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcrompton
    (Comments by outz) I got a iMate PDA2k (GSM , using Cingular) and got nervous and sent it back within my return time. I then got a PPC-6601 (Sprint) just so I could try it on the CDMA network to see the difference. Here are some brief comments:

    The iMate pros:

    Excellent camera - by far the best that I have ever used on a phone / pda device. Actually took some usable pictures.
    WiFi worked great! Did a good job when I changed networks also.
    Bluetooth worked well both for a headset and a modem for a laptop.
    Sound quality as a phone was really pretty good (all that covered before)

    Cons:

    I had no way of knowing when the phone had an ongoing GPRS connection. I had some one tell me that even if there was a connection that it wasn't using battery or Data on the network but as far as the battery goes I think that is bull.

    There is a GPRS icon that appears on the top task bar

    The keyboard, in my opinion is going to be a problem. I think the plastic will chip or come off fairly soon. I found myself using my nail instead of my fingertips and I believe this will eventually damage the keybaord.
    Also the keyboard does not have very good tactile feel and I would find myself missing letters or typing letter twice fairly often.

    Feels great here

    Whenusing a bluetooth headset there is no way to initiate a call from the headset, like I have with ANY other bluetooth phone I have used. You have to push the button on the phone to initaiate the call. Maybe not such a big deal but for such a sophisticated device it was really disappointing to me. I am told that this is because of the OS and there may not ever be an answer to this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yitzchakis1
    Got my PPC-6601 yesterday....I love it and plan to write more about it soon as I have time...I do have one question....how do I make it go in "landscape" mode..more specifically while in IE Explorer.

    Also can Java Web Viewer be used on this phone? My data speeds have been very slow by compared to the T600

    Thanks in advance.

    Isaac
    As far as web speed, man my 6601 runs circles around my Treo. See http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...06&postcount=7 for my response to this question.

    Since I don't use voice memos at all, I just assigned that button to switch between landscape and portait mode. I am sure there is another way to do this faster......but you can do this by going to Start..Settings..System..Keyboard..Key Setting. Then select the hardware key you want to use and assign it the command Rotate Screen from the drop list. Click okay and your done. It works great.
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