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    "The Android developer who raised the ire of a mobile-phone monitoring company last week is on the attack again, producing a video of how the Carrier IQ software secretly installed on millions of mobile phones reports most everything a user does on a phone."

    Researcherís Video Shows Secret Software on Millions of Phones Logging Everything | Threat Level | Wired.com

    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo[/YT]
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    I just saw that. Its pretty amazing all the things it records and sends from your phone. Another reason to not go with Android at least for the moment.
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    Either that, or use a Custom ROM on your Android device. I have, and there are no IQAgents or IQRD services running.

    But is it really gone? Hmm.
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    The problem is that its not limited to Android.
    This is really interesting; not even HTTPS gets encrypted or hidden from this thing. So there are no limits to logging. It was already clear that email, SMS, searches, etc. are permanently saved by ISPs and carriers but now it looks like not even banking, mail, social networking logins are safe either.

    No wonder the position of that fed judge was that there should no reasonable expectation of privacy on anything mobile. 'Total Information Awareness' comes to mind. Are you guys scared yet?
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    Interesting. But not really of any great surprise!
    What a gift for 'Big Brother' to play with.. millions of us
    all chattering away to each other whilst 'they' listen in and watch/record!

    Next questions.. of what actual use is most of this information to them?
    For how long is it retained?
    Is it legally admissable?

    They still don't know what we are THINKING though.. or do they?

    ! !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superjudge View Post
    I just saw that. Its pretty amazing all the things it records and sends from your phone. Another reason to not go with Android at least for the moment.
    The article on Sophos mentioned that iOS from version 3 on has something similar if not the same embedded in it.

    I would wager we cannot be certain that there isn't a similar agent inside webOS. For a long time no one knew about this problem inside Android or iOS - only time will tell.

    As for HTTPS - that's trivial if the device is able to capture information on the client side. The data hasn't been encrypted yet when the keystroke logging occurs. Furthermore any data sent to the device is decrypted on the device - so potentially it could be available for viewing/logging also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclevanya View Post
    The article on Sophos mentioned that iOS from version 3 on has something similar if not the same embedded in it.

    I would wager we cannot be certain that there isn't a similar agent inside webOS. For a long time no one knew about this problem inside Android or iOS - only time will tell.

    As for HTTPS - that's trivial if the device is able to capture information on the client side. The data hasn't been encrypted yet when the keystroke logging occurs. Furthermore any data sent to the device is decrypted on the device - so potentially it could be available for viewing/logging also.
    Yes it does but it is not enabled by default unless you turn on the report diagnostics option. Not sure why it is there. Maybe it's something Apple uses when testing OS versions and disables on the final release. Any Nexus phone does doesn't contain any IQ software.
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    OK, There are enough people here who have broken apart WebOS and it's doctors. Has anyone seen anything that could be this?
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    It's not installed on wp7 devices either - what about RIM?
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    Confirmed: not on webos

    webosinternals WebOS Internals
    Not on webOS, according to Palm: RT @verge: Sprint says it "uses Carrier IQ to help maintain our network performance" bit.ly/rvi7tR

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    RT @bhernacki: @webosinternals There is no carrierIQ in #webOS (I have verified this with multiple sources).
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    Hmm...these guys think otherwise:
    Does My Phone Have Carrier IQ?
    Original Palm Pilot+modem > Kyocera QCP 6035 > Kyocera 7135 > Treo 650 > HTC TyTN (ugh) > Palm Centro > Nokia E75 > Nokia E72 + iPad2 > HP Veer + TouchPad + UK Pre3 + AT&T Pre3 > iPad2 + ATT Pre3 + Nokia N9 > Galaxy S3 > Pre3 > Nexus 4 > Blackberry Q10 + Galaxy Note 8.0
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    Brian Williams is going to do a story about this on the NBC Nightly News tonight (now on the East Coast, and in a couple of hours on the West).

    Maybe he can make it through without a fire alarm, for a change.
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    As federal investigations against Carrier IQ ramp up this week, Sprint said today it will be removing the company's software from its phones. The company has come into the public eye in recent weeks as folks on the internet found evidence that its software was collecting data, and even recording people's keystrokes, supposedly to gauge how well phones were working, but creating suspicion they might be collecting and using the data nefariously. The company has denied any claims of wrongdoing and says it will cooperate as governments begin to look into the affair. Sprint wasn't shy about saying today's decision was made with the concern of its customers, who probably didn't like finding out that an invisible something-or-other was maybe reading their text messages. From the Sprint statement:

    We have weighed customer concerns and we have disabled use of the tool so that diagnostic information and data is no longer being collected. We are further evaluating options regarding this diagnostic software as well as Sprint's diagnostic needs

    They are the first company to announce they're eliminating the software, though a few phone companies like Verizon have already stated that they'd never included it in their phones.

    Sprint Disabled Carrier IQ on its Phones - Yahoo! News
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