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    It is with a heavy heart that I go to the Dark Side of the force. After being an early adoptor of the Visor Delux, then the Prism, and evangelizing my father, brother, sister, sister in law, nephew, and three co-workers into getting Visors, I have gotten a Sony NX70V.

    I must confess to being a bit bitter at Handspring. I loved the Prism, especially with my FlashPlus packing a 256meg CF card. I was looking forwards to something newer and better, when Handspring got out of the PDA business and started to make Treos. And left all the Springboard companies holding the bag.

    And left me to explain to all my relatives why their springboard cameras and whatnot had no future.

    Oh well. I'm looking forwards to writing wargame software taking advantage of the NX70V's larger screen, and my wife is looking forwards to playing Bejeweled in color on my old Prism.
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    Whew! Ya had me scared there. I thought you were gonna say you're going to Pocket(gack)PC!
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    I would agree. The Dark Side would be Pocket PC.

    Alas, I too have given up on HandSpring. I also had to "explain" to my brother and some folks at work who I had convinced to go with HandSpring why I was changing. It was awkward.

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    Originally posted by Winchell
    It is with a heavy heart that I go to the Dark Side of the force.
    you should get your Username changed to "Darth Winchell."
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    Why do Palm users hate the PPC community so much and vice-versa? As a long-time ipaq owner, I have a sense of why PPC owners don't care for Palm. But Palm is the front-runner, so I'm surprised to hear that this community hardly acknowledges the PPC.

    I would have NEVER thought I would own a Palm. But after 3 weeks with a Treo 300, I doubt that I will EVER use a PPC again.

    Maybe some readers of this post will share their thoughts on PPC (if it doesn't take us off-topic).
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    Notice how nothing to do with Palm devices or software is related to Microsoft? Thats my guess. Just like Apple, Palm/Handspring is the little guy that keeps on fighting the Dark Side. So HS keeps making better, CHEAPER, devices. We aren't willing to succomb to their evil bugs.
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    Originally posted by christo1970
    So HS keeps making better, CHEAPER, devices.
    Handspring stopped making better, CHEAPER devices when they dropped the Visor line.. I personally wouldn't consider the TREO to be CHEAPER or Better (which I assume is what you are referring to).. The Treo is more like an evolutionary offshoot down the wrong path.
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    I love the Springboard technology and Visors, even though they are not the flashiest/fastest/newest/thinnest PDA's out there. They get the job done well.

    The thing is, I am a late adopter of the Visor and now don't feel confident buying any more springboards because of lack of support and replacement if something happens to Springboard or Visor.

    The reason I am interested in PPC is not in the operating system (yes, I hate microsoft just like everyone else) but the features for the price! The new Dell Axim really can't be beat: Color, handwriting recognition, SD and CompactFlash (both industry standards for a while) for $199! This means for a future $99 WiFI card I could be surfing the net in Color with a popular browser AND still be supported by Dell's not-half-bad tech support and warranties.

    But as always, I am a few product generations behind and that's the way I like it. That way, if bugs and problems are found they can be resolved before I pull out my wallet.

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    Me too!

    Going to Sony is not going to the dark side.

    Originally posted by Tom LaPrise
    Whew! Ya had me scared there. I thought you were gonna say you're going to Pocket(gack)PC!
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    Originally posted by cml
    The reason I am interested in PPC is not in the operating system (yes, I hate microsoft just like everyone else) but the features for the price! The new Dell Axim really can't be beat: Color, handwriting recognition, SD and CompactFlash (both industry standards for a while) for $199! This means for a future $99 WiFI card I could be surfing the net in Color with a popular browser AND still be supported by Dell's not-half-bad tech support and warranties.

    - cml
    There really are some very compelling reasons and choices to go with a PPC. I will probably own one until Palm makes a reasonably priced model that will allow me to play MP3's. But now that I own a Palm (Treo 300 does count doesn't it?) it's simplicity and form factor will be hard to give up. If you're listening Palm, a simple 32MB device with built in SDIO and your current form factor will be THE machine to put the PPC back on it's heals. The one thing about the PPC that is obvious to most is Microsofts relative indifference towards it.

    But the Dell is a SWEET machine if you can handle the size. If I were you, I would give the Viewsonic a look as well.
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    Well, I technically have both, a Treo 270 and a Jornada 720 Handheld PC. The glaring difference between Windows CE devices and Palm is software. Windows CE software is quite a bit more expensive, and has significantly less availability. Palm software is not only cheaper, itis faster, moreuseful and often times completelyfree! I use my HPC alot,using it right not to read this MB, but I still carry my Treo almost everywhere.
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    Originally posted by z3bum
    Well, I technically have both, a Treo 270 and a Jornada 720 Handheld PC. The glaring difference between Windows CE devices and Palm is software. Windows CE software is quite a bit more expensive, and has significantly less availability. Palm software is not only cheaper, itis faster, moreuseful and often times completelyfree! I use my HPC alot,using it right not to read this MB, but I still carry my Treo almost everywhere.
    It's interesting to hear your comments about software. I agree that the PPC software is DRASTICALLY overpriced, but the one dissapointment I have had with Palm is that there is not nearly as much inexpensive software that is USEFUL to me (non-techie). I have been extremely busy since I got my Treo and haven't had the time to thoroughly search the different sites for freeware, but the little bit of searching so far has not revealed much.

    I haven't used my ipaq since I got my treo. Eventually the lack of word/excel will force me back to my ipaq. But I love the Palm PIM and the Treo's ability to access the internet as well as email. If only there was SDIO & MP3. Oh well, I can't have everything.
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    I got quickoffice off of Kazza- works no problem. It lets you open, create, edit office docs. Snapper mail lets you recieve and read or send Word, PDF, ZIP, ect.. ..... plus more coming. There are software solution, just got to try a few or search the boards.

    I agree the price of the PPC is coming way down compared to just a year ago. Handspring is working on their next amazing device already I'm sure.


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    My Bro-In-Law and I both switched from Handspring to Sony almost a year ago. Think of it this way, you dinot leave Handspring, Handspring left you when they abandoned the Visor lineup.

    Actually I would have switched to a Treo had they offered the Treo in something other than GSM or Sprint technology but GSM is not widely available in Cleveland and I have never heard anything but bad things about Sprint and they have poor coverage in New England (VT andNH) where I travel quite a bit.

    Sony makes some awesome products and I drool at the NX70 offering in comparison to my less than one year old yet outdated N760. Sony has really elevated the Palm OS and I do not think OS5 would have come as quickly if Sony was not pushing the limits of the old technology. Palm users in general owe Sony a lot of thanks for helping to keep Palm moving forward! My way of sayin thanks is by buying their products.

    Now if only Sony would make a Palm Phone!
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    As a owner of a Sony NR70V I too agree Sony is not the dark side..

    congrats on the NX70V Winchell!
    I want one too, but cant justify the cost after buying an NR70V last year..
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    Thanks for all the support, guys!

    My first impression is that the NX70V is very nice. But the jury is still out on whether it is "twice the cost of a Prism" worth of "very nice".

    I also agree: I didn't leave Handspring, Handspring left me.

    I am pleased that the programs I wrote for the Prism were sufficiently adherent to the PalmOS standards that they worked just fine on the PalmOS 5.0 NX70V. Except they ran much, much faster.

    And about 95% of the software I had on my Prism worked on the NX70V. The ones that did not seem to be mostly games that write directly to the screen (which is a PalmOS no-no).
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    Originally posted by EricG
    I personally wouldn't consider the TREO to be CHEAPER
    Oh, the Treo is "cheaper" alright, but I'm not speaking monetarily.

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